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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
It feels like im destined to ctb, just because of my nature itself. At least my genes won't be distributed anymore lol. I really think this is just natural selection in itself, only thing is that I am on the wrong side of it hahaha
 
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FinishingLine

Member
May 23, 2022
38
I feel since my early age that natural causes will not be my end.
On the other hand I never imagined to be imprisoned, and I was twice.
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
It's hard to imagine living to 90 years old and it's hard to imagine dying any sooner
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

he/him/his
Jul 19, 2020
1,939
I wasn't going to pass on my genes anyway, but I do feel like the world will be better without me. People like me don't belong here.
 
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rayless

rayless

Stay at home son
Aug 19, 2019
10
being gay already did that part for me, thankfully

i can't imagine being cruel to the point of not only throwing another human being on earth, but someone whose half genetics came from me. I'm not a good person but pls limits
 
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mojabaka

Student
Apr 20, 2022
100
This is kinda a funny question to me
because I've seen all these pro vaxxers on Twitter and Reddit celebrate unvaxxed people dying from covid and calling it "natural selection". I was disgusted by it and still am. I don't understand how you can do something like that and call yourself "human". Anyway, I took the vaccine and now I'm disabled. Pro vaxxers call me a liar, or say "it's rare and you would've got the same condition if you caught covid" (which is not true, there's e
research and anecdotal evidence that says otherwise). Some anti vaxxers meanwhile told me that I deserve all of this for getting the vaccine in the first place. So now I'm left alone in the middle of everything.

To answer your question: I don't know!

Sometimes I actually agree with the anti vaxxers. It was definitely stupid to trust the government and Big Pharma and take a vaccine that was developed in less than a year, with technology never tried in humans. Especially as a perfectly healthy 24 year old with no previous conditions. So I do feel like it's natural selection on one side, because I was naive and stupid enough to basically destroy my whole life with 1 bad decision.

What I really don't understand thoug is why are the people who are making fun of people dying fine, while I'm the one suffering? I'm not claiming to be a saint, far from it, but at least I have some kind of morals that would never allow me to wish death onto people just for disagreeing with me. This world just makes no sense and there's 0 fairness in it.
 
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Foresight

Foresight

Enlightened
Jun 14, 2019
1,393
I do actually, definitely.
 
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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
888
I never thought either that I'd live through to old age. Men in my family haven't lived long, though (father gone at 59, grandfather gone by 69) so I don't know. I've already had a minor stroke & heart attack, so again, I don't know. I could very well drop dead tomorrow.
 
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rayless

rayless

Stay at home son
Aug 19, 2019
10
This is kinda a funny question to me
because I've seen all these pro vaxxers on Twitter and Reddit celebrate unvaxxed people dying from covid and calling it "natural selection". I was disgusted by it and still am. I don't understand how you can do something like that and call yourself "human". Anyway, I took the vaccine and now I'm disabled. Pro vaxxers call me a liar, or say "it's rare and you would've got the same condition if you caught covid" (which is not true, there's e
research and anecdotal evidence that says otherwise). Some anti vaxxers meanwhile told me that I deserve all of this for getting the vaccine in the first place. So now I'm left alone in the middle of everything.

To answer your question: I don't know!

Sometimes I actually agree with the anti vaxxers. It was definitely stupid to trust the government and Big Pharma and take a vaccine that was developed in less than a year, with technology never tried in humans. Especially as a perfectly healthy 24 year old with no previous conditions. So I do feel like it's natural selection on one side, because I was naive and stupid enough to basically destroy my whole life with 1 bad decision.

What I really don't understand thoug is why are the people who are making fun of people dying fine, while I'm the one suffering? I'm not claiming to be a saint, far from it, but at least I have some kind of morals that would never allow me to wish death onto people just for disagreeing with me. This world just makes no sense and there's 0 fairness in it.
Both the left and the right are facing politics in a childish manner since algorithms started polarizing everyone, and apparently anyone sees how irrational and out of touch with the real world they have become. I'm sorry you had to go through this, and I understand how lost you can feel living in this polarized, irrational world ours has become. Everyone lost class consciousness and are just randomly fighting for idiot causes. At the end of the day, if "natural selection" is to catch anyone, it will be them at both sides, as the capitalist elite is profiting from pretty much all of this.
Can I ask which vaccine did you take and how you became disabled? It's ok if you don't want to talk about it. Hope there is still a chance to recover from it.
 
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eremito

Student
Sep 18, 2019
119
as I mentioned before, about 20% of individuals in each population is superfluous. But why did they come into existence? Is it by chance? Not all all. This share of specimens has to fulfill its role - they should fall victims to predators, perish in natural calamities, be exterminated by their kin. Why? If those defective or second-best individuals are eliminated, the overall pool of genes in the population improves. The ones to survive are the fittest, the most flexible and adjustable plants/animals/humans. The natural selection is done in such a way that the most adaptable people survive, they give the best offspring, after all. The population prospers. On the other hand, the weaker, less fit are designed to be eliminated, to die. I must find some good points in my CTB. I may die but my death will be more than useful for the "fellows". I should be happy and see the logic in this process. I will die but the better people will live. My death will serve the superior purpose. However sad it is for me to acknowledge this status quo.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,789
Very little that's natural about this modern world. And as others have stated, there's no way I'd drag someone from the void into this (especially with my autism and possible attachment disorder/narc traits). I would also watch out for the naturalistic fallacy.

as I mentioned before, about 20% of individuals in each population is superfluous. But why did they come into existence? Is it by chance? Not all all. This share of specimens has to fulfill its role - they should fall victims to predators, perish in natural calamities, be exterminated by their kin. Why? If those defective or second-best individuals are eliminated, the overall pool of genes in the population improves. The ones to survive are the fittest, the most flexible and adjustable plants/animals/humans. The natural selection is done in such a way that the most adaptable people survive, they give the best offspring, after all. The population prospers. On the other hand, the weaker, less fit are designed to be eliminated, to die. I must find some good points in my CTB. I may die but my death will be more than useful for the "fellows". I should be happy and see the logic in this process. I will die but the better people will live. My death will serve the superior purpose. However sad it is for me to acknowledge this status quo.
I think you misunderstand some fundamentals about evolution. It's about being adaptive to a certain environment, not necessarily adaptable in general. And, yes, the so-called 20% (sounds like an average, this could be over 90% of males in some populations) is by chance; the environment (ultimately random) decides which genes are adaptive, and the mutations happen haphazardly. I'd not agree that those who breed in our society are necessarily superior in a general sense. Think you're trying to derive some kind of prescriptive system from a purely descriptive theory.
 
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eremito

Student
Sep 18, 2019
119
Very little that's natural about this modern world. And as others have stated, there's no way I'd drag someone from the void into this (especially with my autism and possible attachment disorder/narc traits). I would also watch out for the naturalistic fallacy.


I think you misunderstand some fundamentals about evolution. It's about being adaptive to a certain environment, not necessarily adaptable in general. And, yes, the so-called 20% (sounds like an average, this could be over 90% of males in some populations) is by chance; the environment (ultimately random) decides which genes are adaptive, and the mutations happen haphazardly. I'd not agree that those who breed in our society are necessarily superior in a general sense. Think you're trying to derive some kind of prescriptive system from a purely descriptive theory.
sure, I meant the specific social environment, the one prevailing in the so-called Central Europe at the current juncture. Given the existing circumstances, I intentionally avoided calling the survivors "superior" or "better". I believe that those adjectives (good, better, the best) are purely subjective. Instead, I relied on the terms more or less "adaptable" or "fit" or "adjustable". My intention was to avoid the one-and-for-all evaluation. I just wanted to point out that the survivors are equipped with the features which make them "fitter", whereas I am less "fit" to live in specific conditions, circumstances.

the point is that it is quite difficult to change the social habitat at present, I mean society or "polis" or however you may call it.'

their "polis" is not my "polis". I am an outcast, the one to be banished (physically eliminated)
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,789
sure, I meant the specific social environment, the one prevailing in the so-called Central Europe at the current juncture. Given the existing circumstances, I intentionally avoided calling the survivors "superior" or "better". I believe that those adjectives (good, better, the best) are purely subjective. Instead, I relied on the terms more or less "adaptable" or "fit" or "adjustable". My intention was to avoid the one-and-for-all evaluation. I just wanted to point out that the survivors are equipped with the features which make them "fitter", whereas I am less "fit" to live in specific conditions, circumstances.

the point is that it is quite difficult to change the social habitat at present, I mean society or "polis" or however you may call it.'

their "polis" is not my "polis". I am an outcast, the one to be banished (physically eliminated)
Ah, gotcha, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Another thing...
as I mentioned before, about 20% of individuals in each population is superfluous. But why did they come into existence? Is it by chance? Not all all. This share of specimens has to fulfill its role - they should fall victims to predators, perish in natural calamities, be exterminated by their kin.
There's no need for the "superfluous" (btw, there are other ways of advancing genetic interests than breeding, so not breeding doesn't necessarily make an individual genetically purposeless) to die by painful and dramatic ways, or to die before anyone that breeds. Evolutionarily speaking, if they don't breed then that's it (ignoring kin-selection and the like, which shouldn't actually be ignored).
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,429
CTB is inevitable for me, unless someone does the deed for me, natural causes kills me off or natural selection is what takes me out. I'd prefer one of those instead of me having to battle survival instinct and do the deed myself.
 
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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
CTB is inevitable for me, unless someone does the deed for me, natural causes kills me off or natural selection is what takes me out. I'd prefer one of those instead of me having to battle survival instinct and do the deed myself.
I think in my case the suicide is actually a natural cause tbh. I am too weak for this world and cannot live in society. Thats why I have to ctb. Therefore I think of it as natural selection
 
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savoytruffle

savoytruffle

Student
Mar 31, 2022
197
oh definitely, i am the weakest person i know and constantly have in my mind that i'm really not made for this world, it's complete natural selection
 
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Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
Yes I think that makes sense… I did not have the strength to create offspring and take care of them properly…
 
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narudo

Member
May 23, 2022
15
Xxxtentacion is that you from the afterlife??
 
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mojabaka

Student
Apr 20, 2022
100
Both the left and the right are facing politics in a childish manner since algorithms started polarizing everyone, and apparently anyone sees how irrational and out of touch with the real world they have become. I'm sorry you had to go through this, and I understand how lost you can feel living in this polarized, irrational world ours has become. Everyone lost class consciousness and are just randomly fighting for idiot causes. At the end of the day, if "natural selection" is to catch anyone, it will be them at both sides, as the capitalist elite is profiting from pretty much all of this.
Can I ask which vaccine did you take and how you became disabled? It's ok if you don't want to talk about it. Hope there is still a chance to recover from it.
Pfizer, but they're all the same. It's the spike protein that's toxic, so every vaccine can potentially destroy your heart or nervous system. I was diagnosed with POTS, small fiber neuropthy and all of this is causing chronic insomnia. I was perfectly healthy before taking the vaccine, now I can't stand for more than 10 minutes and have to pop several pills everyday just to survive.

You're right about people being out of touch, especially online. Social media made people forget what it means to be human. The only important thing to them is that they're right right, everything else is secondary. Even though this wasn't the main topic of my post or your question, but I got to say that I often wish I could go back in time, not just due to the vaccine, but also because I want to experience the old internet without Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc., when forums like these dominated. Back the we had way less trolls and bots around and most people were decent. It'll definitely never be the same.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,590
In my case, I was never meant for this world. Dying is what has always felt right for me. There is absolutely nothing here for me in this life, my existence is only suffering and it feels so pointless me being alive. I really should have never existed in the first place.
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,201
I've been holding back for over a year, debating over getting a will made up. I mean, I am one of the fortunate few who managed to acquire both SN and N (I knew that they would get harder and harder to obtain). Well, the will lawyers are phoning me on Friday to talk about writing one up after I filled in their online enquiry form last week. I honestly have fuck all to live for. I'm getting old, lost some of my closest loved ones, live in a crappy location and very few care if I live or die anyway. It just feels like my days are numbered now. You know, I'm glad. I need the rest.
 
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Sakura94

empty
Nov 26, 2020
673
Maybe though NS can mean just about anything. Future seems to depend on being stupid with more stuff being automated so what remains isn't necessarily better.
 
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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
Xxxtentacion is that you from the afterlife??
I really wish it was man. Will always repeat this: " I wish I could trade places with X, he didn't deserve to die. "
 
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