I'm not religious but the thought of everlasting torment messes with me to this day. Been here a bit and still can't commit and think past it.
lemonbunny
daydreaming the pain away ☆.。.:*・°
- Sep 9, 2023
- 214
yeah i think it's one of the biggest things holding me back. fear of the unknown
There's no hell or heaven mate. Although being nothing, simply nothing is what makes me a bit anxious, but I'm also curious what happens after one dies.
What I hope - reincarnation. Always thought people would just come back after the death, with no memory whatsoever of the past.
What I think is mostly right - You just don't exist anymore, just as you weren't before your birth. We are not so significant as we think we're after all.
Also I'm more scared about suffering in some form of pain while doing the ctb than all these.
What I hope - reincarnation. Always thought people would just come back after the death, with no memory whatsoever of the past.
What I think is mostly right - You just don't exist anymore, just as you weren't before your birth. We are not so significant as we think we're after all.
Also I'm more scared about suffering in some form of pain while doing the ctb than all these.
Cloud Busting
Formerly pinkribbonscars
- Sep 9, 2023
- 396
I was terrified up until about the age of 16/17 and it was a hell in and of itself. It prevented me from CTB which made suicidal ideation pure torture as I knew I lacked the gall, will, determination, strength, and conviction to ctb. Obsessive thoughts you will not act upon is a prison sentence.
Entertain the possibility that hell is obsolete and that tall tales of fire and brimstone are just that; tall tales. No longer believing in the lie that is the fiery eternal flames abusive people spread to scare people was freeing. I suggest you try it.
Why do you believe in hell?
Entertain the possibility that hell is obsolete and that tall tales of fire and brimstone are just that; tall tales. No longer believing in the lie that is the fiery eternal flames abusive people spread to scare people was freeing. I suggest you try it.
Why do you believe in hell?
snowcloud9
I’m Cold
- Sep 9, 2023
- 250
I guess so. Most religions assume that we are in the middle, with hell being worse than Earth and heaven being better. But it could be entirely true that there's no better, only worse after death, and that everyone goes to 'hell' after they die. Life isn't fair and we all know that, so who's to say that afterlife is any more fair? I'm not religious, but I couldn't be atheist either because lack of knowledge on something doesn't mean lack of existence of it.
enough of this
Specialist
- Jun 4, 2023
- 371
No, I'm not afraid of hell. I've been living in it all my life. I'm afraid of the pain of dying and the possibility of failing my CTB attempt. Not so long ago, I felt certain if I took all my meds all at once it would do the job. But after looking at the statistics, it would seem there's a good chance it won't work. I'm so sad about this. I don't know what to do from here.
Not really. I used to be but I also used to be more religious. Ultimately, I no longer believe in a god because too much science contradicts the Bible for them to co-exist in my mind.
locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
- 7,260
Isn't that what this place is? And if it is, and you're trapped in this hell, isn't CTB just a means to escape from your entrapment?
idk, i was raised christian. parents still believe in hell and torment, i guess i inherited that from them
MatrixPrisoner
Enlightened
- Jul 8, 2023
- 1,436
Nope. I am convinced that we all just become ashes or dirt.
Cloud Busting
Formerly pinkribbonscars
- Sep 9, 2023
- 396
They tell me all suicides go to hell. I don't really believe that but what if some of it is true and you do go through something for ctb
Ampsvx123
Student
- Jul 10, 2018
- 128
If it's what the angels want, i have no issue with it. Let pretties have their caprices, let em be the one to eat pastries.
We are in hell right now , people just don't see it.
chris1979
Multiverse is real
- Aug 14, 2023
- 44
This is why I don't believe in hell…
It sounds like something only a sadistic torturer would create. The stories about God putting people in hell and making them burn and feel the worst pain for thousands of years (or millions or forever)… I can't be real because it's sounding so extreme.
Think about it. If god exists then he/she can't be that evil and torture people like that for eternity and make them feel the worse suffering possible.
There must be other solutions that a god can do (even if a god exists like we imagine).
Plus another reason not to believe in hell. It's much more likely it's a story made up to scare people. In the past there is no police and no jail, so the only way to control society and make people behave is to scare them about bad actions (hell) and promise them a nice good place if they have a good behaviour (heaven).
It's much more likely the stories of hell are made up by humans (us) than a real reality.
It sounds like something only a sadistic torturer would create. The stories about God putting people in hell and making them burn and feel the worst pain for thousands of years (or millions or forever)… I can't be real because it's sounding so extreme.
Think about it. If god exists then he/she can't be that evil and torture people like that for eternity and make them feel the worse suffering possible.
There must be other solutions that a god can do (even if a god exists like we imagine).
Plus another reason not to believe in hell. It's much more likely it's a story made up to scare people. In the past there is no police and no jail, so the only way to control society and make people behave is to scare them about bad actions (hell) and promise them a nice good place if they have a good behaviour (heaven).
It's much more likely the stories of hell are made up by humans (us) than a real reality.
Homo erectus
Mage
- Mar 7, 2023
- 560
A popular theory recently is that people pass through a tunnel during death when there is a flashback of everything in their life. Maybe heaven and hell is just that very moment when people may feel good or bad about what they have done and experienced in life. After that, all memory is erased. Even if there is afterlife, it will be a new life, without memory of past suffering. Of course, people can blame karma from a past life for their present misfortune. But this is more like a strawman.
Boudika
Trauma? Oh you mean reason why I'm hilarious
- Aug 22, 2023
- 155
I talked about it with my catechist. Let me quote: "Suicide is a sin, but it doesn't make you go to hell, bc it wasn't a conscious choice but choice dictated by depression" (his words). I'm honestly more afraid that after death there is nothing. You simply cease to exist. Such emptiness scares me very much.
Darkover
Angelic
- Jul 29, 2021
- 4,472
the only hell that exist is the evil universe "i have no mouth and i must scream"
Heaven and hell is an invention of religions and mankind to generate fear.
Cloud Busting
Formerly pinkribbonscars
- Sep 9, 2023
- 396
Ah, Pascal's wager. I went through the same thing as a child.
Do you have scrupulosity/ocd?
I accidentally gave myself exposure therapy as a kid. I was afraid of witches because I was told they were satanic. I knew that wasn't true but I avoided witches because better safe than sorry.
One day I just… made myself read a book with a witch in it. I loved it. Nothing bad happened. I started doing all the stuff I feared. Woke up once when a "devil" cartoon was on and I laughed and nothing bad happened! Took me till 8 to start loosening up and 9 to fully outgrow it.
Of course if your only fear regarding hell is ending up there if you ctb idk what to tell you… but I emphasize because the fear of hell is an awful one i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
I blame the fundies.
No I don't have ocd or anything like that. I am just scared to death of hell
Cloud Busting
Formerly pinkribbonscars
- Sep 9, 2023
- 396
I only ask because I got diagnosed recently and your post struck a chord with me. Was looking for solidarity I guess lol.
Fears of being a sinner have now morphed to being a bad person, a murder, a rapist, and just overall morally contaminated and impure. It's a mind fuck.
Either way I hope you find a solution to ease your fear of hell. Religious trauma is real.
kilowatt
Guns don't kill people I kill people
- Sep 9, 2023
- 377
I'm not religious yet I feel like hell is a better option than going through life.
cosifantutti
Student
- Aug 27, 2023
- 184
Minsu
♀️🏳️🌈
- Jan 17, 2023
- 545
It was just humans who 'created' both heaven and hell.
Some people with schizophrenia got delusions and since there was no medical help back then, they thought it was real although it was just delusions of a sick brain.
So don't worry
Some people with schizophrenia got delusions and since there was no medical help back then, they thought it was real although it was just delusions of a sick brain.
So don't worry
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P@in
Member
- Sep 9, 2023
- 33
Our brain that connects to our senses is the way beings "feel/view" reality.
If the brain is not functioning anymore (dead), how will you continue living hell/heaven?
For example, where have you been before you were born? Or when you was deeply sleeping without seeing dreams?
I was seduced for a surgery, in those hours I felt nothing.
I am not religious anymore, (tho I was deeply believing Christian), souls/gods is a fairy tail for me.
There's no proof that there's a soul or an afterlife. Only the brain.
If the brain is not functioning anymore (dead), how will you continue living hell/heaven?
For example, where have you been before you were born? Or when you was deeply sleeping without seeing dreams?
I was seduced for a surgery, in those hours I felt nothing.
I am not religious anymore, (tho I was deeply believing Christian), souls/gods is a fairy tail for me.
There's no proof that there's a soul or an afterlife. Only the brain.
Agreed. Or they wanted to believe, or used some strong drugs, or just made it up to control people, etc.It was just humans who 'created' bith heaven and hell.
Some people with schizophrenia got delusions and since there was no medical help back then, they thought it was real although it was just delusions of a sick brain.
So don't worry
aunique
Member
- May 6, 2023
- 7
Just wrote about it lol, my family's religious and they spoke a sufficient amount on their disapproval of the topic of suicide. One of the only things keeping me here.
NeverReallyHere
Member
- Mar 15, 2021
- 98
Hell is an invention of sick human minds, bent on maintaining power and control over others.
DEATH IS FREEDOM
Death is the solution to unsolvable problems.
- Sep 13, 2023
- 607
I believe that we are in hell already when we can´t die reliably with the help of a doctor.
S_IsMyUsername
Member
- Sep 11, 2023
- 46
Yes, and even if not, I still don't believe that there is life after death. At least, I hope there isn't. I hope it's just a void, a deep sleep, forever.
