Anyone been a witness to a nembutal suicide

[angie]

Has anyone witnessed a Nembutal suicide .? Not a dignitas one .
All the ones i have seen or read about are at dignitas ,and a lot of people say the actual time on those videos is amended not showing the real time it took.
I have not read or seen any observational cases of N on here apart from those ones .
If anyone has , then please enlighten me as to how it really is .i would prefer to hear it from a source on here other than u tube etc .

 

[k75]

Not in person. I've only read accounts and seen all the YouTube videos. If they're being edited, though, that's some damn good editing, because they generally show the person drinking, talking, becoming nonresponsive seamlessly in roughly the same amount of time. What might be vague is the time from unconsciousness to death. But they say that's more lengthy. The important part is how long until you're unaware.

When my cat was put to sleep, she went in seconds. So it must be pretty fast if you take enough.

 

[The nerd]

Not in person. I've only read accounts and seen all the YouTube videos. If they're being edited, though, that's some damn good editing, because they generally show the person drinking, talking, becoming nonresponsive seamlessly in roughly the same amount of time. What might be vague is the time from unconsciousness to death. But they say that's more lengthy. The important part is how long until you're unaware.

When my cat was put to sleep, she went in seconds. So it must be pretty fast if you take enough.

In fairness, cats weigh very little and are tiny. But I am not very up on this method and don't know anything.

 

[k75]

The dose is an od by size, which is why I said if we drink enough. Seems to me it should scale.

 

[The nerd]

Makes sense. I'd love to know the dosage size ratio and how the process of CTB by N goes. Have to do my research. Seems a better option than SN. I am ready to go.

 

[calendulo]

Guess You are talking about powders.
I just can to talk about veterinary solution, I am sure it is slower than powders.
Considerations:
Taste is horrible.
According test I do, If you take half a gram (7 or 8 ml) on around half an hour you fall sleep.
The feeling after that are, It's dificult keep the balance, you get a dizziness but very pleasant.....logical it is a drug.
As I said Half an hour later you fall sleep around twenty hours and later dizziness still a quite time.
I never feel any kind of pain, just the taste..............At the beginnings so much bitter but then too salty.
Conclusions.
Using on whole bottle, I mean 6,5 gramos. I think you are not going to able to wake .

Being powders a way more accurate, my guessing is everything will be faster. The tate of powders is unkonwn for me.

That is.

 

[LastRide]

Guess You are talking about powders.
I just can to talk about veterinary solution, I am sure it is slower than powders.
Considerations:
Taste is horrible.
According test I do, If you take half a gram (7 or 8 ml) on around half an hour you fall sleep.
The feeling after that are, It's dificult keep the balance, you get a dizziness but very pleasant.....logical it is a drug.
As I said Half an hour later you fall sleep around twenty hours and later dizziness still a quite time.
I never feel any kind of pain, just the taste..............At the beginnings so much bitter but then too salty.
Conclusions.
Using on whole bottle, I mean 6,5 gramos. I think you are not going to able to wake .

Being powders a way more accurate, my guessing is everything will be faster. The tate of powders is unkonwn for me.

That is.

Wow so you can actually just take a small portion to first try out how it feels? That sounds great, I must try ! I don't want the happiness to finally ctb to be destroyed by unpleasant physical reactions to a drug I don't know. I've tried a few drugs, and even those who are "recreational" and supposed to make you feel good I find sometimes very unpleasant in terms of what they do to your body....so better make sure that what you swallow does not have nasty side-effects.

 

[Thereisnothing]

Has anyone witnessed a Nembutal suicide .? Not a dignitas one .
All the ones i have seen or read about are at dignitas ,and a lot of people say the actual time on those videos is amended not showing the real time it took.
I have not read or seen any observational cases of N on here apart from those ones .
If anyone has , then please enlighten me as to how it really is .i would prefer to hear it from a source on here other than u tube etc .

Interested in this myself, but dont think Nembutal very easy to get hold of, so dont suppose many people outside of controlled euthanasia clinics have witnessed its use. I might be wrong.

Wow so you can actually just take a small portion to first try out how it feels? That sounds great, I must try ! I don't want the happiness to finally ctb to be destroyed by unpleasant physical reactions to a drug I don't know. I've tried a few drugs, and even those who are "recreational" and supposed to make you feel good I find sometimes very unpleasant in terms of what they do to your body....so better make sure that what you swallow does not have nasty side-effects.

If you could get hold of some even to try it, seems hard to obtain.

 

[calendulo]

Wow so you can actually just take a small portion to firstt try out how it feels? That sounds great, I must try ! I don't want the happiness to finally ctb to be destroyed by unpleasant physical reactions to a drug I don't know. I've tried a few drugs, and even those who are "recreational" and supposed to make you feel good I find sometimes very unpleasant in terms of what they do to your body....so better make sure that what you swallow does not have nasty side-effects.

As Obama would to say yes you can..............but

With affection I say you the self deliverance is a choice which must be very consider, planned and prudent. It is necessary to be ready for that. To be sure, ever.
It is a love act.

At the other had, as I said most to die sleeping is the most important thing.
I woke up at 16:00 P.M................It next step will be does nor not wake up. That is the target.

Edit Love act?.....in english...is it understood?...I do not know........It is literally.

 

[LastRide]

As Obama would to say yes you can..............but

With affection I say you the self deliverance is a choice which must be very consider, planned and prudent. It is necessary to be ready for that. To be sure, ever.
It is a love act.

At the other had, as I said most to die sleeping is the most important thing.
I woke up at 16:00 P.M................It next step will be does nor not wake up. That is the target.

Edit Love act?.....in english...is it understood?...I do not know........It is literally.

yes we understand 'love act' - beautiful way of describing it ! Thank you for your feedback !

Interested in this myself, but dont think Nembutal very easy to get hold of, so dont suppose many people outside of controlled euthanasia clinics have witnessed its use. I might be wrong.

If you could get hold of some even to try it, seems hard to obtain.

I am very good friends with some very open-minded vets....

 

[angie]

Not in person. I've only read accounts and seen all the YouTube videos. If they're being edited, though, that's some damn good editing, because they generally show the person drinking, talking, becoming nonresponsive seamlessly in roughly the same amount of time. What might be vague is the time from unconsciousness to death. But they say that's more lengthy. The important part is how long until you're unaware.

When my cat was put to sleep, she went in seconds. So it must be pretty fast if you take enough.

On the dignitas videos on u tube the people only have to. drink 50ml its concentrated .
What we would have to take is 100ml according to ppeh but some other people say have to take 200ml to be sure it works .
Also there is no reference by anyone on the videos about the taste ,its apparently not nice at all .
Thats why id prefer to see it done like we would have to take it .Or be told about what the persons comments were about the taste and how they felt etc .

 

[jgm63]

@Asta
Wondering if you might have some input on this thread ?

 

[Asta]

OK, jgm, thanks for asking. If being on the phone counts as "being a witness"... I sent the following to someone who wanted to know the time it takes to sleep after taking the N. The 3 girls mentioned were members of the Exit forum in 2013-14 and they left on different dates:

"I'm not sure of the exact times for G. and K., as around 2 or 3 minutes after taking the N, they must have dropped their cell phones and I heard nothing more. After A. took the powdered N, she spoke for a minute or two longer and then went to sleep. The phone, being a land line, didn't go out."

"The receiver was apparently close to her mouth and I heard and recorded everything from start to finish, so I can probably give you the exact times if I listen, which I haven't had the heart to do yet and that was in 2014. (We had become friends, emailed and talked on the phone for several weeks before she left.) After a few minutes she began to breathe heavily, which lasted about 35 to 40 minutes, then it became softer and ceased at around 45 minutes. It sounded very peaceful - no convulsions or noises of any kind except the breathing. She was a very gentle, kind soul and it was sad to lose her. When I called the next morning, her family said she was gone."

Re taste: One said after drinking, "That's wasn't so bad", another just said it smelled like gasoline, and A .had trouble getting it down because she hadn't mixed the powder well enough and it was in clumps. (Needs to be put in a small jar and shaken.) A person can numb the tongue with a strong mouthwash or alcohol before drinking, then eat a peppermint patty afterward.

Hope this helps.

 

[angie]

OK, jgm, thanks for asking. If being on the phone counts as "being a witness"... I sent the following to someone who wanted to know the time it takes to sleep after taking the N. The 3 girls mentioned were members of the Exit forum in 2013-14 and they left on different dates:

"I'm not sure of the exact times for G. and K., as around 2 or 3 minutes after taking the N, they must have dropped their cell phones and I heard nothing more. After A. took the powdered N, she spoke for a minute or two longer and then went to sleep. The phone, being a land line, didn't go out."

"The receiver was apparently close to her mouth and I heard and recorded everything from start to finish, so I can probably give you the exact times if I listen, which I haven't had the heart to do yet and that was in 2014. (We had become friends, emailed and talked on the phone for several weeks before she left.) After a few minutes she began to breathe heavily, which lasted about 35 to 40 minutes, then it became softer and ceased at around 45 minutes. It sounded very peaceful - no convulsions or noises of any kind except the breathing. She was a very gentle, kind soul and it was sad to lose her. When I called the next morning, her family said she was gone."

Re taste: One said after drinking, "That's wasn't so bad", another just said it smelled like gasoline, and A .had trouble getting it down because she hadn't mixed the powder well enough and it was in clumps. (Needs to be put in a small jar and shaken.) A person can numb the tongue with a strong mouthwash or alcohol before drinking, then eat a peppermint patty afterward.

Hope this helps.

Hi thanks very much for the info ,
I wanted to ask if you did G and K take veterinary luquid nembutal if so do you know how much they took ? 1 bottle or 2 ? if it was liquid .

thanks in advance

 

[escapefromabuse]

Makes sense. I'd love to know the dosage size ratio and how the process of CTB by N goes. Have to do my research. Seems a better option than SN. I am ready to go.

The stuff we used at a vet clinic (pentobarb) was 1 ml per 10 pounds. So a 50lb animal got 5 ml plus some to be sure so more like 6 ml.

 

[jgm63]

The stuff we used at a vet clinic (pentobarb) was 1 ml per 10 pounds. So a 50lb animal got 5 ml plus some to be sure so more like 6 ml.

ok, but I assume it also depends on concentration....
e.g. I think Pisabental, which A supplies, has 63mg per ml.

 

[goomsoom]

Makes sense. I'd love to know the dosage size ratio and how the process of CTB by N goes. Have to do my research. Seems a better option than SN. I am ready to go.

It is a much better method and most would prefer it but its also harder to obtain, lots of scams, very few sources to buy. SN is poor man's N.

 

[escapefromabuse]

ok, but I assume it also depends on concentration....
e.g. I think Pisabental, which A supplies, has 63mg per ml.

Good point. A quick search and the stuff we used is 390mg per ml. That's a pretty big difference.

 

[jgm63]

Good point. A quick search and the stuff we used is 390mg per ml. That's a pretty big difference.

Ok, so you were using quite a concentrated solution.
I was thinking those liquid volumes sounded a bit on the low side....

 

[escapefromabuse]

Ok, so you were using quite a concentrated solution.
I was thinking those liquid volumes sounded a bit on the low side....

Yeah lol. It works really fast too. The injection wouldn't be finished before the pet had passed and always looked so peaceful. Too bad I gave up the veterinary career. I'm sure they wouldn't notice 20-ish mls missing from the bottle /s

 

[angie]

Good point. A quick search and the stuff we used is 390mg per ml. That's a pretty big difference.

On your calculations using 390mg per ml , jmg63 saying its
63mg per ml using pisabental.
it works out about
111ml needed for 150lb person i think

So judging also by the couple people on here who took 120ml that calculation seems about right .i think !!,

 

[jgm63]

On yoyr calculation using 390mg per ml and 63mg per ml using pisabental. it work out about
111. ml needed for 150lb person i think

Yes, that sounds about right, although many of these dosages are probably on the "generous" side.
I would think 100ml of pisabental would be fine for a 150lb person.
Exit international seem to say that 1 bottle is enough for most people.

I discuss the 1 vs 2 bottle debate here :

Spoiler: post-549442

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/liquid-n.30076/post-549442

 

[escapefromabuse]

Yes, that sounds about right, although many of these dosages are probably on the "generous" side.
I would think 100ml of pisabental would be fine for a 150lb person.
Exit international seem to say that 1 bottle is enough for most people.

I discuss the 1 vs 2 bottle debate here :

Spoiler: post-549442

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/liquid-n.30076/post-549442

"Generous" might be better than not enough. I worked the night we sent a "dead" dog home only to get a call from a very pissed off owner later on. Tne dog woke up because it hadn't gotten a large enough dose. That tech was in huge trouble.

 

[jgm63]

"Generous" might be better than not enough. I worked the night we sent a "dead" dog home only to get a call from a very pissed off owner later on. Tne dog woke up because it hadn't gotten a large enough dose. That tech was in huge trouble.

Absolutely. However, some people are in a difficult situation financially, and some people worry a lot about being able to drink 200ml due to the taste issues....
So we try to gather and present as much data as we can rather than simply saying "go with a safe higher amount", which might not work for all cases...

 

[angie]

Absolutely. However, some people are in a difficult situation financially, and some people worry a lot about being able to drink 200ml due to the taste issues....
So we try to gather and present as much data as we can rather than simply saying "go with a safe higher amount", which might not work for all cases...

I was wondering if it be easy to drink it using a syringe with a small bit soft tubing attached and squirting it back your throat to try avoid the taste .! dont know how that would be ,i may practise with water lol

 

[jgm63]

I was wondering if it be easy to drink it using a syringe with a small bit soft tubing attached and squirting it back your throat to try avoid the taste .! dont know how that would be ,i may practise with water lol

hmmm, maybe, I don't know really. You could also use a straw.

I have my notes on taste issues here :

Spoiler: n-taste-guide-draft

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-taste-guide-draft.26278/

 

[escapefromabuse]

I was wondering if it be easy to drink it using a syringe with a small bit soft tubing attached and squirting it back your throat to try avoid the taste .! dont know how that would be ,i may practise with water lol

An orange urinary catheter fits perfect on a syringe but tbh I'd be afraid of choking or aspirating. Like @jgm63 says a straw might be a better idea.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

There's a PN video on YT in which an old man drinks it and then eats a chocolate bar. Can't find it now.

 

[Berlin76]

Has anyone witnessed a Nembutal suicide .? Not a dignitas one .
All the ones i have seen or read about are at dignitas ,and a lot of people say the actual time on those videos is amended not showing the real time it took.
I have not read or seen any observational cases of N on here apart from those ones .
If anyone has , then please enlighten me as to how it really is .i would prefer to hear it from a source on here other than u tube etc .

Your question is about nembutal
But nembutal its main purpose and substance is pentobarbital that is used for euthanasia. People die within a hour with 2 bottles that contains 12,6 grams pentobarbital.

I am in the process of euthanasia the team told me after I drink the cocktail mix of pentobarbital , that they will give me a extra dose of an extra 15 grams of pentobarbital after 30 minutes to speed up death

 

[calendulo]

There's a PN video on YT in which an old man drinks it and then eats a chocolate bar. Can't find it now.

I am so interesting about to take chocolate after.....could be a helpful option.
And, sorry in advance, for the question.........what means PT?......Thanks.


Add: cause I suppose you are talking about liquid vet, not powders.
YT is youtube, obviously.