Any way to go by making it a whole statement against the UK that destroyed me?

[UnderTheSun]

I am struggling a lot, not just with mental health but with lot of aspects.
Recently I have been facing the hypocrisy of services supposed to help me, instead they just throw me like a hot potato to other services without ever giving me the help I need.
The UK has destroyed me, for 5 years, I have been given up, actually I went to get healthcare in another country and I got so much help as a non resident that I never got in the UK despite me begging for it and so many referrals.

Yesterday, I was passing border force I complained to them that I was feeling so bad and was getting no help, that once again the police did not help me in anyway, and declined to point fingers at services not helping me. Border force made a few referrals and listened to me but I know it will go nowhere.

I have so many means at home to unalive myself that would work painlessly but I want to make my death a big statement, I want this to shock emergency services so they understand how they pushed me. I thought about jumping off a train platform but there are chances I would fail, any advice for any similar mean with a 100% success rate please?

I do not want coping mechanisms or talk, I no longer want to beg for help I won't get I just wanna go, in a way that is going to be a statement.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Personally, I don't condone methods that harm or traumatize random strangers. That isn't targetting people who harm us. It's simply terrorizing a group of frightened people. Some of whom may well have been pro- choice, given to charities that help our cause etc.

The problem with these very splashy public suicides as I see it, is that they likely don't target the right people and, they are generally viewed as an extremist act by a crazy person. So, they do nothing to support a cause. Simply to further demonstrate that some people are a risk to society.

I think maybe you could kick up a fuss legally. Possibly write to the press about your (lack) of treatment. Obviously, if you write to enough health organisations, MP's, journalists. Get people interested and then, if you do suicide (not saying you should of course)- even privately, I imagine it will cause ripples. People have 'outed' their lack of support in notes left behind.

Depends really on how much fight and energy you have. Plus, how much courage really. Our UK organisations seem to go after people who complain now. There've even been instances of parents getting into trouble for complaing about their children's schools! So, it depends I suppose if you can prove willful neglect and if you are prepared for a backlash. But, that at least would be more targetted.

I suppose I've fantasized doing something public in front of MP's or whatever but even then- I don't know them really. How do you even isolate a person you think is a perfect candidate to witness the result of their indifference or, outright neglect? I really don't know. Do they actually deserve to have something traumatic on their conscience? (Presuming they even have one...) Again, I just don't know.

 

[UnderTheSun]

Personally, I don't condone methods that harm or traumatize random strangers. That isn't targetting people who harm us. It's simply terrorizing a group of frightened people. Some of whom may well have been pro- choice, given to charities that help our cause etc.

The problem with these very splashy public suicides as I see it, is that they likely don't target the right people and, they are generally viewed as an extremist act by a crazy person. So, they do nothing to support a cause. Simply to further demonstrate that some people are a risk to society.

I think maybe you could kick up a fuss legally. Possibly write to the press about your (lack) of treatment. Obviously, if you write to enough health organisations, MP's, journalists. Get people interested and then, if you do suicide (not saying you should of course)- even privately, I imagine it will cause ripples. People have 'outed' their lack of support in notes left behind.

Depends really on how much fight and energy you have. Plus, how much courage really. Our UK organisations seem to go after people who complain now. There've even been instances of parents getting into trouble for complaing about their children's schools! So, it depends I suppose if you can prove willful neglect and if you are prepared for a backlash. But, that at least would be more targetted.

I suppose I've fantasized doing something public in front of MP's or whatever but even then- I don't know them really. How do you even isolate a person you think is a perfect candidate to witness the result of their indifference or, outright neglect? I really don't know. Do they actually deserve to have something traumatic on their conscience? (Presuming they even have one...) Again, I just don't know.

I completely agree with you it's not fair to traumatize people having done nothing wrong to me, unfortunately I don't have the strength anymore to fight and you know complaints I have made lots of them, I have followed legal routes and it goes nowhere.

But I am so angry, I can't even describe the type of thought I have sometimes it would land me in jail, that's how bad it is, that's why I ask here, perhaps I shall add to my request something that is not targeting people having done nothing wrong but only emergency services because as a whole they are as bad as every other services that let me down numerous times, especially the police.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I completely agree with you it's not fair to traumatize people having done nothing wrong to me, unfortunately I don't have the strength anymore to fight and you know complaints I have made lots of them, I have followed legal routes and it goes nowhere.

But I am so angry, I can't even describe the type of thought I have sometimes it would land me in jail, that's how bad it is, that's why I ask here, perhaps I shall add to my request something that is not targeting people having done nothing wrong but only emergency services because as a whole they are as bad as every other services that let me down numerous times, especially the police.

I'm so sorry you have been failed so badly by the system that is there to protect us. It's understandable you feel so wronged and angry. Especially if your complaints have fallen on deaf ears.

It's just very tricky really. I suppose I've been lucky in that there's no one I hate so intensely to want to hurt that much. Even someone who actually caused my ideation to begin with. It's difficult to know, without having experienced what you have, to know whether I would feel that persecuted and angry. Because of that, I also find it hard to condone an attack on them either I suppose.

It's not to belittle what you've been through. It's just not knowing the full situation, or theirs. Why did they fail? Was it wilful neglect or deliberate persecution and abuse? Was it bad training? Being short of staff? Was it their personal fault or, the system they work for?

Again, it's not to undermine your feelings or experiences. It's more to wonder about the bigger picture and who is really to blame. Is it really individuals or, the different rules/ tick boxes they need to comply to? Can they even act in a way that would be best for our needs? I expect GP's would like longer with each of their patients but, they are forced to fulfil quotas etc.

I worked in care for a short while. Some of the residents were very high demand. One particular evening was a nightmare because there were multiple simultaneous problems and, only three of us to cope with them. Obviously, that doesn't excuse presenting a poor manner towards them but it means you physically simply can't do the job you want to do well. Was that our fault? Surely not- we were doing our best to cope. It's the organisations themselves that don't want to pay out on staffing etc. Not to say that is the case for you. I don't know but, I feel like a lot of people are under too much pressure to do their jobs. Maybe they're arseholes too or, maybe it's a mix of both sometimes. I'm sorry you've been so poorly treated though.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Maybe write a manifesto about what you think and your feelings of your situation and send it to multiple newspaper and other press outfits before you ctb.

 

[alwaysalone]

I shall add to my request something that is not targeting people having done nothing wrong but only emergency services because as a whole they are as bad as every other services that let me down numerous times, especially the police.

I have to say the part about emergency seices is a bit worrisome. I hope you're just blowing off steam because you're angry. (Completely understandable)
I agree with contacting media. Their coverage could force people to help you. I'm sorry I'm not familiar with how the system works in UK.

 

[UnderTheSun]

I'm so sorry you have been failed so badly by the system that is there to protect us. It's understandable you feel so wronged and angry. Especially if your complaints have fallen on deaf ears.

It's just very tricky really. I suppose I've been lucky in that there's no one I hate so intensely to want to hurt that much. Even someone who actually caused my ideation to begin with. It's difficult to know, without having experienced what you have, to know whether I would feel that persecuted and angry. Because of that, I also find it hard to condone an attack on them either I suppose.

It's not to belittle what you've been through. It's just not knowing the full situation, or theirs. Why did they fail? Was it wilful neglect or deliberate persecution and abuse? Was it bad training? Being short of staff? Was it their personal fault or, the system they work for?

Again, it's not to undermine your feelings or experiences. It's more to wonder about the bigger picture and who is really to blame. Is it really individuals or, the different rules/ tick boxes they need to comply to? Can they even act in a way that would be best for our needs? I expect GP's would like longer with each of their patients but, they are forced to fulfil quotas etc.

I worked in care for a short while. Some of the residents were very high demand. One particular evening was a nightmare because there were multiple simultaneous problems and, only three of us to cope with them. Obviously, that doesn't excuse presenting a poor manner towards them but it means you physically simply can't do the job you want to do well. Was that our fault? Surely not- we were doing our best to cope. It's the organisations themselves that don't want to pay out on staffing etc. Not to say that is the case for you. I don't know but, I feel like a lot of people are under too much pressure to do their jobs. Maybe they're arseholes too or, maybe it's a mix of both sometimes. I'm sorry you've been so poorly treated though.

I feel that all the reasons you indicated are what caused this situation.
i agree with this plan but if I cbt and the press does nothing the plan fails

Maybe write a manifesto about what you think and your feelings of your situation and send it to multiple newspaper

Maybe write a manifesto about what you think and your feelings of your situation and send it to multiple newspaper and other press outfits before you ctb.

 

[VoidButterfly]

There's no way to hurt people and get a message across. The only thing people will remember is that you hurt people. Every single mass shooter or bomber that ever lived and had some manifesto or whatever, almost no one alive knows why they did it. No one but a small handful of enthusiasts reads them or pays any attention, the media certainly aren't going to do justice to your grievances. It's just not going to happen.

When you think of protests that you do remember, they're non-violent typically. The first one I think of is the guy who burned himself alive to protest the treatment of Buddhists in his country. A big one here at the moment was just stop oil, not a group I personally agree with the methods of but you know what their protest was about. If just stop oil was just some suicide bomber no one would have heard their message.

I don't know what the actual solution to your issue is. Maybe just getting loud without fear of the consequences, finding others who feel the same and making a big show of it, making a difference at a political level. If it has to be suicide I'd say it'll be hard to get a message out and harder still if you hurt anyone else in the process, directly or indirectly.

 

[Linda]

I am struggling a lot, not just with mental health but with lot of aspects.
Recently I have been facing the hypocrisy of services supposed to help me, instead they just throw me like a hot potato to other services without ever giving me the help I need.
The UK has destroyed me, for 5 years, I have been given up, actually I went to get healthcare in another country and I got so much help as a non resident that I never got in the UK despite me begging for it and so many referrals.

Yesterday, I was passing border force I complained to them that I was feeling so bad and was getting no help, that once again the police did not help me in anyway, and declined to point fingers at services not helping me. Border force made a few referrals and listened to me but I know it will go nowhere.

I have so many means at home to unalive myself that would work painlessly but I want to make my death a big statement, I want this to shock emergency services so they understand how they pushed me. I thought about jumping off a train platform but there are chances I would fail, any advice for any similar mean with a 100% success rate please?

I do not want coping mechanisms or talk, I no longer want to beg for help I won't get I just wanna go, in a way that is going to be a statement.

If you want to catch the bus, then catch the bus. If you want to change the world, then stay alive and change the world. I think trying to mix the two would, at best, be a failure, and could easily have harmful consequences.

 

[UnderTheSun]

There's no way to hurt people and get a message across. The only thing people will remember is that you hurt people. Every single mass shooter or bomber that ever lived and had some manifesto or whatever, almost no one alive knows why they did it. No one but a small handful of enthusiasts reads them or pays any attention, the media certainly aren't going to do justice to your grievances. It's just not going to happen.

When you think of protests that you do remember, they're non-violent typically. The first one I think of is the guy who burned himself alive to protest the treatment of Buddhists in his country. A big one here at the moment was just stop oil, not a group I personally agree with the methods of but you know what their protest was about. If just stop oil was just some suicide bomber no one would have heard their message.

I don't know what the actual solution to your issue is. Maybe just getting loud without fear of the consequences, finding others who feel the same and making a big show of it, making a difference at a political level. If it has to be suicide I'd say it'll be hard to get a message out and harder still if you hurt anyone else in the process, directly or indirectly.

I have found a plan, crashing on the motorway into a lorry (from the lateral) at 120+mph, I will call 999 a minute before that to tell them my plan and then crash the car so they will now. I will also live it on Tiktok.

 

[alwaysalone]

I have found a plan, crashing on the motorway into a lorry (from the lateral) at 120+mph, I will call 999 a minute before that to tell them my plan and then crash the car so they will now. I will also live it on Tiktok.

What about the driver?

 

[UnderTheSun]

What about the driver?

Lorry driver is very unlikely going to be injured because the fact they are off the ground protects them, obviously I am not gonna crash on a dangerous goods lorry, they maybe be emotionally unwell but what can I say really at this point I am just selfish and I need to go by making a statement

 

[alwaysalone]

Lorry driver is very unlikely going to be injured because the fact they are off the ground protects them, obviously I am not gonna crash on a dangerous goods lorry, they maybe be emotionally unwell but what can I say really at this point I am just selfish and I need to go by making a statement

No it won't protect them