Suicide_vampire

Suicide_vampire

In Vino Veritas
Feb 11, 2020
426
I struggle to believe in a higher power known as God. I don't see how we can be accountable for the sins of those who have gone before us. I think the whole idea of organised religion is just yet another form of social control. As Marx said "the opium of the masses".
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: LittleJem, yetme, r2d2020 and 1 other person
S

SamuelMortem

Member
Mar 1, 2020
19
I've been raised Catholic and go in and out with Catholism. I've also been involved with occult dealings, and I know, understand, and have experienced a lot more of the spiritual aspects of people and the world, with both things I've personally found to be real, and things I've found ti be false.
So while I don't consider myself to be very religious per se, currently, I am experienced and do certainly have beliefs (though to me these have been comfirmed far truer than most would think possible).

I'm happy to answer a couple questions for anyone curious.
 
D

dxnys

Member
Mar 1, 2020
72
What occult dealings and what spiritual movements have you meet ?
 
a.n.kirillov

a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
1,831
It would be comforting to believe in a god but I don't really know...
Please go and read Genesis, then come back and tell us again how the existence of Jehovah would be comforting.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: LittleJem and Lost in a Dream
jimbob1000

jimbob1000

Student
Feb 21, 2020
133
im Greek orthodox, but not sure what to believe anymore,
 
S

SamuelMortem

Member
Mar 1, 2020
19
What occult dealings and what spiritual movements have you meet ?
Sorry, are you talking about what beings I've met, or what religions/areas I've been involved in?
 
Marktheghost

Marktheghost

Paragon
Feb 20, 2020
911
I was a christian. I know for certain that the God described by the bible does not exist now though. He's an illogical concept.

Regarding suicide, you only need to read the old testament to see how little value God places on life. I don't think there's anything in the bible to suggest God's got a problem with people killing themselves.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: filthyrottendirty and LittleJem
voyager

voyager

Don't you dare go hollow...
Nov 25, 2019
965
I'm agnostic, don't really believe in God, and agree with Suicide_vampire, organised religion was often a mere tool to manipulate the masses, imho . Those are tangible opinions though, and the reality is I have no clue what the truth is, so don't disrepect faith per se and do myself believe there is indeed some sort of magic in this world. Something which goes beyond mere coincidence. Almost succumbed to the thought it was perfectly meaningless. If one thinks about it, and I mean really think about, there is no scientific way of explaining an infinite amount of space and time, and as such existence. It's weird that we're all here, don't know why, but it's nice having met you all.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: EvilGnome84, LittleJem and r2d2020
Lost in a Dream

Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
1,771
I'm somewhere in between a Deist and an atheist I guess. I believe that the universe probably has an intelligent designer, but I don't think of myself as being religious about it in any way. I think of this "god" as an intelligent thing that observes and experiments with our universe like it's the inside of a petri dish, but I see no reason to think that it is benevolent at all. It might be curious about us at best, but could also be apathetic or even sadistic. All I can say for sure is that I would never pray to it or ask it for favors because it likely won't give a shit anyway.

Even though I am aware that my reason for believing is basically the god of the gaps fallacy, I still can't seem to get the idea out of my head. Since there will always be gaps in my knowledge, a god belief will always stuff itself in whether I want it to or not (it's like a mosquito that never dies, even though I've tried to slap it hundreds of times). I think for some of us, our brains are just wired in such a way that a god belief of some kind comes naturally, which is probably the case for me.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: yetme, epic and r2d2020
r2d2020

r2d2020

Member
Feb 11, 2020
47
...I believe that the universe probably has an intelligent designer...

I've thought about this quite a bit, although I think it would designer(s), as in a extremely intelligent group of biological or non-biological beings. This fit well with the theory that we are living in a simulation which can be neither proved or denied.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lost in a Dream
C

ctbUniquectb

Pariah
Jan 7, 2020
489
On design: there's a good chance we're all living in a simulation.

Somewhere up the chain, of course, is the real/non simulated universe.

I'm personally convinced that if this is a simulation, that a teenaged boy is running it, fucking with us all for entertainment.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: Oyoy, Lost in a Dream, LittleJem and 3 others
yetme

yetme

Arcanist
Oct 20, 2019
486
How can you believe in God after he fucked you in the ass?
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: rik and LittleJem
S

SamuelMortem

Member
Mar 1, 2020
19
Both with zoom on which you have been involved
Ok.
I'm pretty good at feeling energies (not the bullshit psychic kind, anyone could feel them as well as I can, just I'm abnormally good at it), so I've always felt a response from the Catholic God when I prayed, though it became a lot more noticeable the closer I got to Him. Things happened and I got involved with Occult. I've been around numerous beings since then. Some exorcisms, some self called, "gods" (though I personally believe the Catholic god to be one of the, if not the most powerful "god" in existence), some demons, one time an angel, which was amazing, and I've come across several small spirits. It sounds unbelieveable, but I've sadly been attracted to this stuff like a magnet. The result of these dealings, mostly the exorcisms I performed, are a large part of why I'm here.

For the specific areas, I've been deep in Catholism, though for the occult I dealt mostly with energy stuff (as a study mostly) which can be difficult with how vague it can be, some western stuff with rituals, though that was mostly to deal with summoning, a good amount of sigils, and quite a few mpre Eastern stuff, since that largely revolves around the natural energy in things.



Also, if anyone disbelieves me and think I'm lying, feel free to say that or PM me that, but let's not have an argument. My beliefs and experiences are my own, and I've spent too long and have become too tired to argue over things, especially this, when both sides have no hope of giving the other an inch. Good day to you all still though.
 
L

LittleJem

Visionary
Jul 3, 2019
2,577
My religion: I go out to eat on Yom Kippur, the holiest fast day of my religion and I go Michelin starred (cheaper at lunchtime). I sometimes shout "fuck you God" as I walk down quiet streets.

I find it really weird that when I had a happy balanced day (thanks to some vitamin or drug that never worked again) I started to feel the presence of God. Obviously, that disappears when my brain chemistry reverted to normal.

The truth is I entirely believe in God, I am just suffering too much to feel it. I prayed so many times to get better and always believed I would - and now I do not believe I will. I had several mystical experiences during my younger days, including one day where I felt immense love for everybody (totally sober and very profound). But now, my marriage ended, I've been bedridden for a year, everything I ever believed in has been disproved and I look back with shame on my madness. When I took Ayahuasca, I was singing songs to Jesus spontaneously.

I also feel sorry for God - as I see that God has to witness so much horror and suffering, hopefully with compassion. But to witness the evil and suffering - I can't imagine what God goes through. While I am not Christian, that is my idea of Jesus on the cross. Jesus metaphorically crucified by witnessing the suffering and evil.

I don't believe in free will and I believe some of us were simply born with suicidal brains. The science bears this out - suicidal brains are wired differently.

Frankly I blame God for everything.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: Oyoy, yetme and EvilGnome84
EvilGnome84

EvilGnome84

Member
Mar 1, 2020
7
I understand how you feel towards watching others suffer , all I can say at the moment is that the earth is not being ignored .

I really wish I still believed this, but I haven't for some time now and I really don't know if I ever will again.
Frankly I blame God for everything.

Yep, I definitely feel this.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: LittleJem
BlackPoppet

BlackPoppet

Wise woman and Celtic sky person
Mar 7, 2020
991
I'm a pagan
Me too! I'm Polythiest/ Panthiest! My chosen pantheon of Gods are the Celtic gods! I wear a Cernonnos/Herne necklace every where! I feel like I've come home. I've been Pagan for around twelve years! Nice to meet a fellow Pagan here!
 
Oyoy

Oyoy

Spatula
Feb 2, 2020
741
On design: there's a good chance we're all living in a simulation.

Somewhere up the chain, of course, is the real/non simulated universe.

I'm personally convinced that if this is a simulation, that a teenaged boy is running it, fucking with us all for entertainment.
My religion: I go out to eat on Yom Kippur, the holiest fast day of my religion and I go Michelin starred (cheaper at lunchtime). I sometimes shout "fuck you God" as I walk down quiet streets.

I find it really weird that when I had a happy balanced day (thanks to some vitamin or drug that never worked again) I started to feel the presence of God. Obviously, that disappears when my brain chemistry reverted to normal.

The truth is I entirely believe in God, I am just suffering too much to feel it. I prayed so many times to get better and always believed I would - and now I do not believe I will. I had several mystical experiences during my younger days, including one day where I felt immense love for everybody (totally sober and very profound). But now, my marriage ended, I've been bedridden for a year, everything I ever believed in has been disproved and I look back with shame on my madness. When I took Ayahuasca, I was singing songs to Jesus spontaneously.

I also feel sorry for God - as I see that God has to witness so much horror and suffering, hopefully with compassion. But to witness the evil and suffering - I can't imagine what God goes through. While I am not Christian, that is my idea of Jesus on the cross. Jesus metaphorically crucified by witnessing the suffering and evil.

I don't believe in free will and I believe some of us were simply born with suicidal brains. The science bears this out - suicidal brains are wired differently.

Frankly I blame God for everything.
Im a depressed Jewish woman too.
 

Similar threads

Anhaedra
Replies
20
Views
639
Recovery
zulu123
Z
S
Replies
3
Views
211
Recovery
Parnate
P
Demian
Replies
21
Views
463
Suicide Discussion
Demian
Demian
Reflection
Replies
3
Views
145
Suicide Discussion
Forever Sleep
F