Any of you believe in reincarnation/heaven/etc.?

[Darkover]

the fact that i am here at all makes me think it could happen again in some distant future, but hopefully not.

 

[Musketeer]

Your out of your mind.. but that's just my opinion.

if you went through the shit i went through You'd be out of your mind.. but that's just my opinion.

I'd *love* it if you could expand on everything you said, I'm fascinated.

-hell as we know it doesn't exist- i fouind no evidence of a hell as the abrahamic religions describe
-spirits in the spirit world can stay as long as they want- the spirit world is our default state, while we may be compelled to reincarnate to learn and grow it is never forced
-reincarnation does exist but is never forced- we choose to come here to learn, grow, and adapt to a lifestyle different than in spirit
-spirits can create earth like recreations in the spirit world (although reincarnation is more immersive)- this one was a bit weird to put into words but i recreated the house i grew up in while i was in a coma, i knew i was going to come back
-spirits get bored of the spirit world and will descend to live again, living in the spirit world can get boring after a time a lot of them will reincarnate to live again.

 

[DerTod]

I like what you said and i believe the same: God is not a human but a force( supreme kindness,forgiveness,understanding and love). We have free will. We are able to chose re-incarnation but if we do it,it will come with karma from previous lives in order to help us grow and evolve. The purpose of life on earth is for our souls to learn forgiveness,kindness,understanding and love in spite of all the sh!t life on earth throws at us.

if you went through the shit i went through You'd be out of your mind.. but that's just my opinion.

-hell as we know it doesn't exist- i fouind no evidence of a hell as the abrahamic religions describe
-spirits in the spirit world can stay as long as they want- the spirit world is our default state, while we may be compelled to reincarnate to learn and grow it is never forced
-reincarnation does exist but is never forced- we choose to come here to learn, grow, and adapt to a lifestyle different than in spirit
-spirits can create earth like recreations in the spirit world (although reincarnation is more immersive)- this one was a bit weird to put into words but i recreated the house i grew up in while i was in a coma, i knew i was going to come back
-spirits get bored of the spirit world and will descend to live again, living in the spirit world can get boring after a time a lot of them will reincarnate to live again.

 

[dredd1981]

There's definitely something else, as yoda said "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter". There is some compelling evidence for reincarnation as well as numerous documented accounts of near death experiences as well as the visions had by those close to death.

Personally….I had never been to a good medium, I was open to the possibility but every one I had seen was just incredibly vague. Anyway, my (hopefully soon to be ex) wife's mother had been dead maybe 6 months, I had been chatting to a friend (who didn't know my wife or that her mother had died), I said I had never been to a good medium and she recommended someone for me to see.
Now before anyone says she could have gotten info off social media etc, my social media profiles are locked down, and I wasn't even listed as "married to" in any of my descriptions.
So, fast forward to the reading…
She knew my wife's mother died recently and from cancer.
Knew her sisters were dead and named them
Knew her son had died and named him
Knew the names of her husband and other son
She knew a ton more other stuff that I wasn't able to verify myself so my wife listened to the recording and was able to verify other names and dates etc.
There is no way she could have known any of that. She didn't know me, she only had my first name, she didn't know my wife etc etc. and it's not like she was all "I'm getting a message from someone with the initial P" there was none of that bs…..she said "Cory is with her, he died very young" etc
I can't explain this other than there is more to this world than what science can explain.

As for the death bed visions etc, go to YouTube and look up ted talks by dr Christopher Kerr and dr Peter Fenwick. These are both dr's who started out as sceptics and are now believers.

 

[Okami]

There are so many things in this world and universe that we don't know about. I don't completely dismiss any possibility, even if I already have my own beliefs. There could be a God and there could be nothing. The former is scariest to me since I would obviously not like to be sent to Hell if it is anything like how it's often described, though I have also heard stories that it's nowhere near as bad as that.

I somewhat recently had a discussion with a friend about the afterlife, and something we went in-depth about was how we both disagreed with the concept of Hell in general. It is impossible to fully grasp the concept of eternal suffering, but the more you think about it, the more scary and unfair it becomes. I believe that the existence of Hell should be dedicated towards learning from your mistakes (big or small) and repenting for them. Physical punishment should only be used as a last resort or if the people in question are truly deplorable (I'm hoping I don't need to explicitly say who I'm talking about). Once they become better people, then the opportunity of being allowed in Heaven is given to them. If Hell really matches how it is said to be, is there really any point in learning from anything if there's nothing but eternal punishment?

Obviously the severity of crimes and sins vary drastically and you could argue that for some people, there is no improvement to be had. But that just raises the question of why everyone in Hell is presumably given the same treatment? If one were theoretically sent to Hell for multiple minor crimes, they would be suffering the same as those who killed (and had done even worse) to others. I really struggle to see the fairness in that.

If there is a God, I really hope that he is more forgiving than a lot of people make him out to be. Someone ending their suffering only to be sent away for never-ending pain is just really cruel. Especially since he was the one who made us and knows everything that will happen to us. That's one of the most messed up things to me; how he supposedly knows all and doesn't do anything to stop it. Punishing someone for a life you purposefully gave them is just incredibly wrong and I couldn't support a God like that.

In terms of my personal thoughts on what happens after death, I lean towards it being whatever you personally believe in. What your soul (or lack thereof) is pulled most strongly towards. I have memories of past lives and believe I will be reincarnated, though obviously not everyone shares that same mindset. I think there being multiple different paths in the afterlife could partially explain why there are so many varying stories from people with near-death experiences as well as while they're alive. You have so many claiming to see spirits, hearing from God, having past life memories, and even seeing nothing at all. There are so many mysteries and possibilities that I don't think I could fully, without a doubt claim that something doesn't exist.

 

[Musketeer]

There's definitely something else, as yoda said "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter". There is some compelling evidence for reincarnation as well as numerous documented accounts of near death experiences as well as the visions had by those close to death.

Personally….I had never been to a good medium, I was open to the possibility but every one I had seen was just incredibly vague. Anyway, my (hopefully soon to be ex) wife's mother had been dead maybe 6 months, I had been chatting to a friend (who didn't know my wife or that her mother had died), I said I had never been to a good medium and she recommended someone for me to see.
Now before anyone says she could have gotten info off social media etc, my social media profiles are locked down, and I wasn't even listed as "married to" in any of my descriptions.
So, fast forward to the reading…
She knew my wife's mother died recently and from cancer.
Knew her sisters were dead and named them
Knew her son had died and named him
Knew the names of her husband and other son
She knew a ton more other stuff that I wasn't able to verify myself so my wife listened to the recording and was able to verify other names and dates etc.
There is no way she could have known any of that. She didn't know me, she only had my first name, she didn't know my wife etc etc. and it's not like she was all "I'm getting a message from someone with the initial P" there was none of that bs…..she said "Cory is with her, he died very young" etc
I can't explain this other than there is more to this world than what science can explain.

As for the death bed visions etc, go to YouTube and look up ted talks by dr Christopher Kerr and dr Peter Fenwick. These are both dr's who started out as sceptics and are now believers.

Whatever you decide to do, the choice is yours but always take what other people have to say with a grain of salt. I don't want the news media crying about this forum talking about spiritual matters like we are in some cult. I'm very aware of the news media and the attention this site brings.

 

[Rmr]

I am not sure. There's so little that we actually know about how things work in the universe. I am accepting this uncertainty. But also expecting death to be just like not being born yet - not existing consciously and not aware of anything at all.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I probably wouldn't deserve it after what I'm about to do with my life (namely ending it myself), but I dream about a second life cycle where I'd be born into better circumstances, i.e. that are easier to live with.

Kind parents who raise me with love, without struggling with multiple jobs to keep food on the table, no domestic violence, no bullying, no suicidal ideation starting at age 11, not—well my face, ruining my chances with the person that I liked because of psychosis, the PSYCHOSIS to begin with, the psych ward, etc.

I'd be with my "soulmate", whom I believe I have met and had "all incarnations with" (though it could be my psychotic break that was manifesting, who knows), we'd raise children together, grow old together—have an ordinary life and die old of natural causes, because we wouldn't need to consider suicide to begin with.

It makes me so sad that after this life of absolute pain and chaos, I either sign up for nothing, or more pain in whatever form it takes according to the various traditions of thought/philosophies/religions.

No. i don't believe there is an afterlife nor reincarnation. I think a human is just a small animal like a monkey, fish, fly etc.. I saw a poll that said only 17% of Americans don't believe in an afterlife. All life is based on DNA and has the exact same genetic code, which imo shows that all life descended from a single DNA molecule

Evolution: Library: The Common Genetic Code

 

[Huntfish34]

Yes I believe,. And it scares the Fck outta me

 

[dropintheocean]

Yes I do. Most if not all religions also point to somekind of afterlife or reincarnation. Check out Amitabha Buddha and his pure land Sukhavati. In many religions theres these "purelands" you could go after the physical death like Jesus' heaven. Also many near death experiences and past life memories point to this.

 

[Shu]

I believe this is the afterlife.

 

[Life_isover128]

I've always taken comfort in the thought of reincarnation and having the chance of not having to suffer as an ugly incel in the next life

 

[jimmy7754]

if you went through the shit i went through You'd be out of your mind.. but that's just my opinion.

-hell as we know it doesn't exist- i fouind no evidence of a hell as the abrahamic religions describe
-spirits in the spirit world can stay as long as they want- the spirit world is our default state, while we may be compelled to reincarnate to learn and grow it is never forced
-reincarnation does exist but is never forced- we choose to come here to learn, grow, and adapt to a lifestyle different than in spirit
-spirits can create earth like recreations in the spirit world (although reincarnation is more immersive)- this one was a bit weird to put into words but i recreated the house i grew up in while i was in a coma, i knew i was going to come back
-spirits get bored of the spirit world and will descend to live again, living in the spirit world can get boring after a time a lot of them will reincarnate to live again.

You know what I believe? That I'm going to fly high with baby Jesus forever and ever when I die for eternity… I am going to bathe in the waters of the lord.. I will be Baptized in his arms and welcomed into the kingdom of heaven..

 

[justagreenleaf]

if you went through the shit i went through You'd be out of your mind.. but that's just my opinion.

-hell as we know it doesn't exist- i fouind no evidence of a hell as the abrahamic religions describe
-spirits in the spirit world can stay as long as they want- the spirit world is our default state, while we may be compelled to reincarnate to learn and grow it is never forced
-reincarnation does exist but is never forced- we choose to come here to learn, grow, and adapt to a lifestyle different than in spirit
-spirits can create earth like recreations in the spirit world (although reincarnation is more immersive)- this one was a bit weird to put into words but i recreated the house i grew up in while i was in a coma, i knew i was going to come back
-spirits get bored of the spirit world and will descend to live again, living in the spirit world can get boring after a time a lot of them will reincarnate to live again.

This is fascinating. It really gives me hope, especially considering you had an experience of what you describe.
I'm still unsure if it could really be that hurting people I care about by abandoning them in such a disturbing way would make me worthy of anything good... But if my suffering gets too great... I don't see how I could carry on...

 

[Musketeer]

This is fascinating. It really gives me hope, especially considering you had an experience of what you describe.
I'm still unsure if it could really be that hurting people I care about by abandoning them in such a disturbing way would make me worthy of anything good... But if my suffering gets too great... I don't see how I could carry on...

This is going to sound cold but you have no obligation to suffer to spare the feelings of other people

 

[justagreenleaf]

This is going to sound cold but you have no obligation to suffer to spare the feelings of other people

I can definitely see why that is also true—that we all live for ourselves only. Certainly, and I say that with some level of sarcasm, many have not followed any obligation to spare my feelings in the past...
I just can't help the guilt, I suppose. I could easily prevent this, but won't/might not. It's different from, I don't know—accidentally hurting someone's feelings. Even though it is not my intention at all, the outcome remains that they will be upset and full of grief.

 

[Lullaby]

I'd *love* it if you could expand on everything you said, I'm fascinated.

Me too!

 

[Musketeer]

Me too!

I did expand on it some more, unfortunately I'm bad at expanding on pints without specific questions.

 

[CTBgenuine]

There's definitely something else, as yoda said "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter". There is some compelling evidence for reincarnation as well as numerous documented accounts of near death experiences as well as the visions had by those close to death.

Personally….I had never been to a good medium, I was open to the possibility but every one I had seen was just incredibly vague. Anyway, my (hopefully soon to be ex) wife's mother had been dead maybe 6 months, I had been chatting to a friend (who didn't know my wife or that her mother had died), I said I had never been to a good medium and she recommended someone for me to see.
Now before anyone says she could have gotten info off social media etc, my social media profiles are locked down, and I wasn't even listed as "married to" in any of my descriptions.
So, fast forward to the reading…
She knew my wife's mother died recently and from cancer.
Knew her sisters were dead and named them
Knew her son had died and named him
Knew the names of her husband and other son
She knew a ton more other stuff that I wasn't able to verify myself so my wife listened to the recording and was able to verify other names and dates etc.
There is no way she could have known any of that. She didn't know me, she only had my first name, she didn't know my wife etc etc. and it's not like she was all "I'm getting a message from someone with the initial P" there was none of that bs…..she said "Cory is with her, he died very young" etc
I can't explain this other than there is more to this world than what science can explain.

As for the death bed visions etc, go to YouTube and look up ted talks by dr Christopher Kerr and dr Peter Fenwick. These are both dr's who started out as sceptics and are now believers.

What's the mediums name and contact details? I'm interested in her services

 

[GentleJerk]

Whenever someone asks this type of question, self-appointed experts on the mysteries of life, death, and the universe always come crawling out of the woodwork to enlighten us all.

 

[justagreenleaf]

Whenever someone asks this type of question, self-appointed experts on the mysteries of life, death, and the universe always come crawling out of the woodwork to enlighten us all.

I'm such a sucker for this type of stuff though! Like, come on! Take me to the woodwork you've crawled out of with you lol

 

[GentleJerk]

I'm such a sucker for this type of stuff though! Like, come on! Take me to the woodwork you've crawled out of with you lol

True. I don't mind either, as long as they're not shitting on other peoples beliefs and telling everyone I know the truth, this is how it really is. Which is often the case.

 

[justagreenleaf]

True. I don't mind either, as long as they're not shitting on other peoples beliefs and telling everyone I know the truth, this is how it really is. Which is often the case.

As far as I'm concerned I'll worship whoever comes out of their mancave to talk to me about "reincarnation" and "soulmates. Bring your esoterica and neckbeard, *I'm ready*

(bonus if I get a free tarot reading about my guardian angels a pack of crystals)

 

[faunaaaa]

I believe in reincarnation- too many stories of kids recalling their past lives. I hope it's not true

 

[CemetryGates]

I hope its nothing but a void after death but got this feeling that we're merely in a loop and we keep reincarnating, that terrifies me

 

[Cactuscraze]

I hope its nothing but a void after death but got this feeling that we're merely in a loop and we keep reincarnating, that terrifies me

I have a hunch we're probably in a reincarnation loop of some kind too. Hopefully the next life will be a better dice-roll of circumstances

 

[Shu]

I have a hunch we're probably in a reincarnation loop of some kind too. Hopefully the next life will be a better dice-roll of circumstances

If it is a thing I don't think we just get to skip over anything by killing ourself. The imprints in this life will continue into the next most likely.

 

[justagreenleaf]

If it is a thing I don't think we just get to skip over anything by killing ourself. The imprints in this life will continue into the next most likely.

This.
I think if I do it, I'd end up with another life as a mentally ill person with no friends and a terrible family. Sigh. Truly no respite.

 

[Shu]

This.
I think if I do it, I'd end up with another life as a mentally ill person with no friends and a terrible family. Sigh. Truly no respite.

Careful what you think and focus on. Remember.. we are creating your reality. The materialist are going to try to come in and argue against that but I go by experience.

 

[freebird777]

This is super interesting to me, thank you so much for sharing.
Could you please elaborate some of the bullet points? I would really love to know more, as I plan to leave soon.

Agreed, very interesting. I'm preparing now by communicating with any potential Spirit guides or ancestors on the other side, and I'm letting them know I never want to come back to this earth, realm, whatever you want to call it. I will never get bored... I'm absolutely marking my soul with notes to stay away from this place. I'm not coming back here. Not for all the tea in China. This place is a labyrinth and a trap and a trick and I'm not falling into it again... I'm stating these intentions and I'm secure in my soul's decision. Eternity as nothing sounds like heaven, no pun intended.