I think the lack of dopamine blockers could make it tough. Your chances of vomiting are higher. And while this does not guarantee failure it could make your experience more miserable.
I think the lack of dopamine blockers could make it tough. Your chances of vomiting are higher. And while this does not guarantee failure it could make your experience more miserable.
From my understanding people still vomited with the dopamine blockers? I plan on having extra cups beside me....honestly I can't remember the last time I threw up, but throwing up isn't exactly painful? Plus if I only have a cup of water it can't be too much vomit right? I'm not sure...
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From my understanding people still vomited with the dopamine blockers? I plan on having extra cups beside me....honestly I can't remember the last time I threw up, but throwing up isn't exactly painful? Plus if I only have a cup of water it can't be too much vomit right? I'm not sure...
True, people have vomited even with dopamine blockers. But I think the chances are higher without them. Just my thought. Others here may have more insight.
If one were to skip all of the extras and consume SN solo...(beyond having the extra doses at the ready), I'm thinking 2 main concerns would become even more important than usual:
A: privacy/secure location - no interruptions
B: no easy out, I.e.: ditch all phones
I would wait until I had the other medications. I don't know about OTC substitutes or if anyone here has listed alternatives, but there are protocols for a reason. Why take a chance on suffering or failure and hospitalization when you can avoid it if you follow them?
Stan said that he knew two people who went through without the antiemetics and it worked. I believe it was SK who said you can more or less test yourself by using a certain amount of table salt as a substitute (dose might be important, so don't just do it). Overall though, it's my impression that it's a risky thing to do. The various supplements seem to interact with each other to achieve a certain effect and the vomiting itself isn't the painful part, but the fact that some SN residue will remain in your system. Possibly enough to kill you, but slowly and probably painfully. Can you drink more? Possibly, but you'll be in some trouble by then. I'm over my head here, so wait for more info, but the complications I've heard about all involved vomiting. One member even suffered from temporary blindness, which only subsided when he was taken to hospital and administered the antidote.
i already have SN but I ordered meto a few weeks ago but it's stuck when I track the order so I don't think it's going to arrive. I could order meto again from another site....but that means I'd have to wait another month or so and I dont think I can wait that long.
My depression is getting worse and showing other symptoms. I have now reached the stage where I literally feel dead inside, and I dont mean that in a pejorative sense like being super sad. I am super sad but what I mean is that I now no longer find anything interesting or pleasurable. The hobbies I used to do no longer interest me, I no longer have the motivation to read books I used to enjoy. movies and YouTube videos bore me now too. I have nothing left.
theres Literally only one thing left in my life that brings me pleasure, and that is sleeping. So I now find myself sleeping more and more hours per day, and the hours I am awake just feel...well dead. Like I'm alive but not living anymore.
i just want to sleep forever and never wake up, I don't think I can wait another month for a new order of meto to arrive.
so I'm with you OP, I'm considering trying SN without meto.
That or I'm going to admit myself to a psych ward. My mind is so fucked at this point those are my two options now, ctb or admit myself to a psych ward which I dont even know how to do.
i used to believe I could get out of this dark place I'm at alone if I just found the motivation, but now I know that is impossible. I now know I'm so mentally screwed up that I either need to seek professional help or I'm going to ctb sooner or later.
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If one were to skip all of the extras and consume SN solo...(beyond having the extra doses at the ready), I'm thinking 2 main concerns would become even more important than usual:
A: privacy/secure location - no interruptions
B: no easy out, I.e.: ditch all phones
the no phones is good advice...
Yeah I'm thinking of doing it in the middle of the night I live with family but they're on separate floors as me... hopefully I wouldn't make noise from pain
i already have SN but I ordered meto a few weeks ago but it's stuck when I track the order so I don't think it's going to arrive. I could order meto again from another site....but that means I'd have to wait another month or so and I dont think I can wait that long.
My depression is getting worse and showing other symptoms. I have now reached the stage where I literally feel dead inside, and I dont mean that in a pejorative sense like being super sad. I am super sad but what I mean is that I now no longer find anything interesting or pleasurable. The hobbies I used to do no longer interest me, I no longer have the motivation to read books I used to enjoy. movies and YouTube videos bore me now too. I have nothing left.
theres Literally only one thing left in my life that brings me pleasure, and that is sleeping. So I now find myself sleeping more and more hours per day, and the hours I am awake just feel...well dead. Like I'm alive but not living anymore.
i just want to sleep forever and never wake up, I don't think I can wait another month for a new order of meto to arrive.
so I'm with you OP, I'm considering trying SN without meto.
That or I'm going to admit myself to a psych ward. My mind is so fucked at this point those are my two options now, ctb or admit myself to a psych ward which I dont even know how to do.
i used to believe I could get out of this dark place I'm at alone if I just found the motivation, but now I know that is impossible. I now know I'm so mentally screwed up that I either need to seek professional help or I'm going to ctb sooner or later.
it's weird I'm not depressed but I don't find anything enjoyable. I don't really want anything and I can relate to just wanting to sleep... sleep is kinda ruined for me though because that gets interrupted
I went to the psych ward and it was just creepy like a lot of aggressive people there. It didn't feel safe.
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My advice would be to wait untill you have acquired everything that is needed. Why take the risk? Surely it must be possible to obtain anti-emetics through a doctor or an online pharmacy.
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I think doing it without antiemetics is risky and I wouldn't do that personally. The things should not be hard to get in most countries if one uses their imagination. You are more likely to vomit without them and pain is more likely then you could end up in hospital. CTB should be carefully thought through and not rushed. You have your whole life to CTB.
it's weird I'm not depressed but I don't find anything enjoyable.
I went to the psych ward and it was just creepy like a lot of aggressive people there. It didn't feel safe.
I'm sure some psych words are horrible and that really isn't helpful. Part of the problem here is the mental health services are failing people. Might I ask have you considered any alternative options than standard drugs and psychotherapy? CBT? I've found herbs and meditation useful, yoga, and Qi gong over the years. Maybe you tried a load of stuff already for years to try to improve things, I don't know, but there is often a better and more gentle way, even if is a hard way. Especially if your young or this problem hasn't been going on that long it might be worth a try.
I get it's your choice etc, but sometimes it's helpful to hear another perspective and if there's doubt in your mind I'd urge you to reconsider, or at least, take some more time over it.
My advice would be to wait untill you have acquired everything that is needed. Why take the risk? Surely it must be possible to obtain anti-emetics through a doctor or an online pharmacy.
thanks. sorry. I really can't wait...just can't handle another day at work nor seeing my counselor who is onto me about suicide so he's kinda annoying me at this point but my family is forcing me to go. it's hard to explain without sounding petty or obscure but I really can't do another day I guess.
thanks. sorry. I really can't wait...just can't handle another day at work nor seeing my counselor who is onto me about suicide so he's kinda annoying me at this point but my family is forcing me to go. it's hard to explain without sounding petty or obscure but I really can't do another day I guess.
You do not need to justify yourself to me at all. I'm sorry you feel pressured to do this so quickly. Yet another pernicious effect of the suicide prohibition instated by this insane society.
It's completely up to you. If it would help I'd be willing to listen to you, as I'm sure many others would on here as well. If you do decide to follow through on your plan I wish you succes.
If need be call in sick at work or simply quit. Tell your counselor to go to hell if he bugs you this much. Unless you're under court order they can't force you to attend therapy. The best of luck to you.
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i already have SN but I ordered meto a few weeks ago but it's stuck when I track the order so I don't think it's going to arrive. I could order meto again from another site....but that means I'd have to wait another month or so and I dont think I can wait that long.
My depression is getting worse and showing other symptoms. I have now reached the stage where I literally feel dead inside, and I dont mean that in a pejorative sense like being super sad. I am super sad but what I mean is that I now no longer find anything interesting or pleasurable. The hobbies I used to do no longer interest me, I no longer have the motivation to read books I used to enjoy. movies and YouTube videos bore me now too. I have nothing left.
theres Literally only one thing left in my life that brings me pleasure, and that is sleeping. So I now find myself sleeping more and more hours per day, and the hours I am awake just feel...well dead. Like I'm alive but not living anymore.
i just want to sleep forever and never wake up, I don't think I can wait another month for a new order of meto to arrive.
so I'm with you OP, I'm considering trying SN without meto.
That or I'm going to admit myself to a psych ward. My mind is so fucked at this point those are my two options now, ctb or admit myself to a psych ward which I dont even know how to do.
i used to believe I could get out of this dark place I'm at alone if I just found the motivation, but now I know that is impossible. I now know I'm so mentally screwed up that I either need to seek professional help or I'm going to ctb sooner or later.
Your situation is the exact same as mine. Reading doesn't soothe me anymore and I feel like going crazier each day. I don't have any control on my thoughts anymore, and unfortunately sleep doesn't come as easily as before. I truly feel like going crazy. I'm also thinking of doing SN with OTC antiemetics cause I'm afraid my order will only come too late. The anxiety is becoming too much. I have nothing to distract myself, not even sleep. I wish I could just drink enough to have the guts to hang myself or jump off a building.
i already have SN but I ordered meto a few weeks ago but it's stuck when I track the order so I don't think it's going to arrive. I could order meto again from another site....but that means I'd have to wait another month or so and I dont think I can wait that long.
My depression is getting worse and showing other symptoms. I have now reached the stage where I literally feel dead inside, and I dont mean that in a pejorative sense like being super sad. I am super sad but what I mean is that I now no longer find anything interesting or pleasurable. The hobbies I used to do no longer interest me, I no longer have the motivation to read books I used to enjoy. movies and YouTube videos bore me now too. I have nothing left.
theres Literally only one thing left in my life that brings me pleasure, and that is sleeping. So I now find myself sleeping more and more hours per day, and the hours I am awake just feel...well dead. Like I'm alive but not living anymore.
i just want to sleep forever and never wake up, I don't think I can wait another month for a new order of meto to arrive.
so I'm with you OP, I'm considering trying SN without meto.
That or I'm going to admit myself to a psych ward. My mind is so fucked at this point those are my two options now, ctb or admit myself to a psych ward which I dont even know how to do.
i used to believe I could get out of this dark place I'm at alone if I just found the motivation, but now I know that is impossible. I now know I'm so mentally screwed up that I either need to seek professional help or I'm going to ctb sooner or later.
Hey you're not alone you've described exactly how I feel, especially about the books and the videos and sleeping is the only release...I get this totally
The ibuprofen and rennie should be easy to get, but they are not 100% essential.
Are you certain you can't get any meto ?
You could always PM someone to get more info.
"PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
You do not need to justify yourself to me at all. I'm sorry you feel pressured to do this so quickly. Yet another pernicious effect of the suicide prohibition instated by this insane society.
It's completely up to you. If it would help I'd be willing to listen to you, as I'm sure many others would on here as well. If you do decide to follow through on your plan I wish you succes.
If need be call in sick at work or simply quit. Tell your counselor to go to hell if he bugs you this much. Unless you're under court order they can't force you to attend therapy. The best of luck to you.
The ibuprofen and rennie should be easy to get, but they are not 100% essential.
Are you certain you can't get any meto ?
You could always PM someone to get more info.
"PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
The ibuprofen and rennie should be easy to get, but they are not 100% essential.
Are you certain you can't get any meto ?
You could always PM someone to get more info.
"PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
People have succeeded in a SN suicide without antiemetics, and people have killed themselves accidentally, so I don't think you'll fail if you take enough. Vomiting isn't an automatic failure.
But for your own sake, you could at least get some OTC antiemetics. It's still better than nothing, I presume.
The ibuprofen and rennie should be easy to get, but they are not 100% essential.
Are you certain you can't get any meto ?
You could always PM someone to get more info.
"PM" (PM = personal message, a bit like sending someone an email)
You need to make at least 5 posts and need to have been active for at least 24 hours to get access.
If you don't know what to post, you can post in some of the "games" threads (see "offtopic" section).
Once you have PM access, when you hover the mouse pointer over a user name, you will see a "start conversation" button...
Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. With the right help things can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
People have succeeded in a SN suicide without antiemetics, and people have killed themselves accidentally, so I don't think you'll fail if you take enough. Vomiting isn't an automatic failure.
But for your own sake, you could at least get some OTC antiemetics. It's still better than nothing, I presume.
Benadryl helps with motion sickness. It is not the right kind of antiemetic for the SN method. It does not block dopamine in the intestines. I would not rely on it for this use. https://www.aafp.org/afp/2004/0301/p1169.html
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