Antibiotics wrecked my gut and screwed up my brain

[Lifessocruel]

Hi everyone,
I would like to warn of the dangers of antibiotics and how they can ruin your life. I was living a good lifestyle and built up a good business which have been happily running for years and i was living a very comfortable lifestyle, I was very strong physically and mentally until last year when i picked up some bacterial infections which i had 4 courses of antibiotics after coming off i immediately started to get stomach and chest pains, breathing trouble lasting for months and then panic attacks from the overwhelming anxiety and then i turned into a hypochondriac. I have a damaged liver function, IBS and overreactive thyroid. All of which I had to stop working for months and it lead me to make some awful decisions which only made my situation worse and lead to serious heart issues.
All the while doctors deny antibiotics were anything to do with it. They are happy to hand them out like sweets and now I have crippling depression with suicidal thoughts and whats worse is the fact that i dont even think i needed to be on them for that long, the doctors were reluctant to see people face to face cos of lockdown and never mentioned the dangers . I'm a shadow of my former self and I don't know if i can continue with this emptiness for much longer. Its a death sentence. I'm just waiting for someone to tell me it was all a bad dream and things will just go back to how they were.

 

[fox_wannabe]

I was given many antbiotics as kid by my mother. I am not sure If they made things worse or not. I am sorry to hear that. Is there a chance to regaining the bacterial flora?

 

[Tonight634]

It's absolutely legit this whole thing with antibiotics, maybe try to look at Eric Bakker The Naturopath on Youtube, he has thousands of videos about all kinds of gut problems, maybe you'll find something useful there in regards to how to replenish your gut bacteria after antibiotics. What I've learned is in essence you have to eat a wide variety of vegetables, obviously limit junk food and sugar etc, make sure you get enough sleep and walk as an exercise. I'm not a professional but in my case I can definitely say these things help a lot, I'm not here trying to promote the channel or anything if it sounds that way it's just I've struggles with gut issues too...I hope you get better, I believe it's possible for you, or at least I hope so.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

Panic attacks are definitely consistent with an overactive thyroid and heart problems. I don't mean to patronise but is it possible that your thyroid was starting to fail for a long time and the explosion just coincided with the anti-biotic use? I had a wonky thyroid for years, as it turns out, and you don't tend to feel it until it's very bad.

 

[Lifessocruel]

Thanks,I did change my diet to non dairy, vegan which did seem to help but now the pains have gone abit its mostly my mind that is the problem which is harder to fix. It was decisions that i uncharacteristically made following the antibiotic treatment because my mind had been affected so badly which then put me in a very stressful situation and i just couldn't cope with stress how i used to. It was almost as if i was possessed.

 

[Tonight634]

It's absolutely legit this whole thing with antibiotics, maybe try to look at Eric Bakker The Naturopath on Youtube, he has thousands of videos about all kinds of gut problems, maybe you'll find something useful there in regards to how to replenish your gut bacteria after antibiotics. What I've learned is in essence you have to eat a wide variety of vegetables, obviously limit junk food and sugar etc, make sure you get enough sleep and walk as an exercise. I'm not a professional but in my case I can definitely say these things help a lot, I'm not here trying to promote the channel or anything if it sounds that way it's just I've struggles with gut issues too...I hope you get better, I believe it's possible for you, or at least I hope so.

Also I just want to add that if you decide to try to heal yourself this way, be patient and easy with yourself, waiting for the problem to go away doesn'r help, I used to think of it in a strict way and tried to be perfect which only led me to orthorexia and binge eating, look at it as a way of taking care of yourself instead of some strict rules you can't wait to stop doing.

Thanks,I did change my diet to non dairy, vegan which did seem to help but now the pains have gone abit its mostly my mind that is the problem which is harder to fix. It was decisions that i uncharacteristically made following the antibiotic treatment because my mind had been affected so badly which then put me in a very stressful situation and i just couldn't cope with stress how i used to. It was almost as if i was possessed.

Oh, I understand. Really if I could help you with that I'd love to, unfortunately I've also made somestupid decisions in my life that haunt me up to this day so all I can do is wish you luck and patience.

 

[facel]

@Lifessocruel I'm so sorry to hear that. Was it ciprofloxacin or Levaquin by any chance, or some other type of fluoroquinolone antibiotic. I was "floxed" some years ago and have had lots of health problems, including depression, IBS, chronic pains, tinnitus, and many other symptoms. I lost my business after then too and nearly my mind, I had to take a year off work just to start getting functional. But I'm back in a bad state again, I'm not sure if it's a relapse or other causes. There are a few people on here with similar, and relapses seem to be quite common. I feel your pain. I know what you mean about hoping to wake up from a bad dream - it's (supposedly) so unusual, and the symptoms are so varied and multiple, that you think it can't possibly be true!

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I'm sorry you're suffering and in so much pain. Life is cruel. Deterioration of ones health is awful. I'm sorry you're suffering

 

[Dot]

Agree about natropath, maybe look to nervous system regulation too. Irene Lyon on youtube discusses lots and has a course. Recommended few times on forum as mainstream psych rarely go beyond thoughts, feelings and pills when answers often in neurobiology.

 

[Lifessocruel]

@Lifessocruel I'm so sorry to hear that. Was it ciprofloxacin or Levaquin by any chance, or some other type of fluoroquinolone antibiotic. I was "floxed" some years ago and have had lots of health problems, including depression, IBS, chronic pains, tinnitus, and many other symptoms. I lost my business after then too and nearly my mind, I had to take a year off work just to start getting functional. But I'm back in a bad state again, I'm not sure if it's a relapse or other causes. There are a few people on here with similar, and relapses seem to be quite common. I feel your pain. I know what you mean about hoping to wake up from a bad dream - it's (supposedly) so unusual, and the symptoms are so varied and multiple, that you think it can't possibly be true!

Thanks for your warm words, and i was on 2 different types for 2 different infections one was Flucloxaxillin and the other was an antibiotic cream fusidic acid which had the worst affect on my mental health, i was delirious on it and so depressed after i came off and never really recovered from that, it changed my brain chemistry? Doctors just think im making it up but they never admit anything. The I'm hoping things improve for you, there is lots of scientific evidence that suggests how important our gut bacteria is for our wellbeing and anxiety levels. Changing diet can make a big difference but the mind is alot harder to fix.

Panic attacks are definitely consistent with an overactive thyroid and heart problems. I don't mean to patronise but is it possible that your thyroid was starting to fail for a long time and the explosion just coincided with the anti-biotic use? I had a wonky thyroid for years, as it turns out, and you don't tend to feel it until it's very bad.

Well I'll never know for sure but i was a very healthy person before i had these antibiotics, i don't want to boast but i had health mots at my gym couple of years ago and was the top 5 percent fittest person in my age group.

 

[facel]

Thanks, I think often it's a prescription of a fluoroquinolone like Flucloxaxillin in combination with with something else that does the damage I think. I'm so sorry to see that. I think doctors just don't want the inconvenience of an outlier - I have the same problem. And sadly once you've got depression and anxiety they seem to say every other physical symptom is due to those, rather than them all having the same cause. It's really difficult to not be labelled a hypochondriac when you've got lots of different symptoms.

 

[insomuchpain316]

Sorry for ur injury. Eff big pharma. I have a brain injury from pharma product use over the years. Pharma is bad and they won't admit it.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'm sorry your life was ruined. Health problems really are awful. Doctors simply couldn't care less. I hope you find the peace you are looking for

 

[insomuchpain316]

I'm sorry your life was ruined. Health problems really are awful. Doctors simply couldn't care less. I hope you find the peace you are looking for

Thanks funeral for always being so supportive. Unfortunately I am too scared to CTB due to failing and this messed up world doesn't allow us a right to die with a safe form of euthenasia. So I am stuck living in this prison of a body and it's hell.

 

[Lifessocruel]

Thanks, I think often it's a prescription of a fluoroquinolone like Flucloxaxillin in combination with with something else that does the damage I think. I'm so sorry to see that. I think doctors just don't want the inconvenience of an outlier - I have the same problem. And sadly once you've got depression and anxiety they seem to say every other physical symptom is due to those, rather than them all having the same cause. It's really difficult to not be labelled a hypochondriac when you've got lots of different symptoms.

Yeah it's so true once you've been diagnosed as having depression and anxiety doctors always overlook everything else. I've learnt so much about how our bodies work because mine has been going wrong due to these awful drugs. As soon as the liver starts going wrong it can also increase the chances of developing schizophrenia, something about toxics not being filtered out properly but i definitely opened up a can of worms. Dam the margins in life are so thin it's hard to imagine. I thought i was set for life but alot of uncertainty now, i just don't see or look forward to anything in the future. It's almost like living life blindfolded. I still am in business and have made a small comeback but I still don't know if i can move on and accept things will never be the same.
I'm not scared of death i just can't throw in the towel yet after working so hard to achieve a successful business. My SI is strong. I'm split down the middle

 

[insomuchpain316]

I am at a point to where I am suffering so much physically that I am not being fair to myself by making myself continue on but I am because this world doesn't allow us a peaceful exit and I am scared of failing.

 

[facel]

Yeah it's so true once you've been diagnosed as having depression and anxiety doctors always overlook everything else. I've learnt so much about how our bodies work because mine has been going wrong due to these awful drugs. As soon as the liver starts going wrong it can also increase the chances of developing schizophrenia, something about toxics not being filtered out properly but i definitely opened up a can of worms. Dam the margins in life are so thin it's hard to imagine. I thought i was set for life but alot of uncertainty now, i just don't see or look forward to anything in the future. It's almost like living life blindfolded. I still am in business and have made a small comeback but I still don't know if i can move on and accept things will never be the same.
I'm not scared of death i just can't throw in the towel yet after working so hard to achieve a successful business. My SI is strong. I'm split down the middle

This is so true, 4 months ago I'd had my best year in business, my main client contract was renewed, I had a lovely girlfriend, life was looking good, despite previously being floxed some years earlier and clawing my way back, including divorce from an abusive woman and subsequently bringing my kids up on my own. Now, after the last breakdown/relapse, I'm fucked, lost them all, it's a long way back, especially at my age, and having to rebuild yet again. I wish you well with your business, hang in there!

 

[myownpetvirus]

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Hi everyone,
I would like to warn of the dangers of antibiotics and how they can ruin your life. I was living a good lifestyle and built up a good business which have been happily running for years and i was living a very comfortable lifestyle, I was very strong physically and mentally until last year when i picked up some bacterial infections which i had 4 courses of antibiotics after coming off i immediately started to get stomach and chest pains, breathing trouble lasting for months and then panic attacks from the overwhelming anxiety and then i turned into a hypochondriac. I have a damaged liver function, IBS and overreactive thyroid. All of which I had to stop working for months and it lead me to make some awful decisions which only made my situation worse and lead to serious heart issues.
All the while doctors deny antibiotics were anything to do with it. They are happy to hand them out like sweets and now I have crippling depression with suicidal thoughts and whats worse is the fact that i dont even think i needed to be on them for that long, the doctors were reluctant to see people face to face cos of lockdown and never mentioned the dangers . I'm a shadow of my former self and I don't know if i can continue with this emptiness for much longer. Its a death sentence. I'm just waiting for someone to tell me it was all a bad dream and things will just go back to how they were.

how are you now?

 

[yyytry]

Hi everyone,
I would like to warn of the dangers of antibiotics and how they can ruin your life. I was living a good lifestyle and built up a good business which have been happily running for years and i was living a very comfortable lifestyle, I was very strong physically and mentally until last year when i picked up some bacterial infections which i had 4 courses of antibiotics after coming off i immediately started to get stomach and chest pains, breathing trouble lasting for months and then panic attacks from the overwhelming anxiety and then i turned into a hypochondriac. I have a damaged liver function, IBS and overreactive thyroid. All of which I had to stop working for months and it lead me to make some awful decisions which only made my situation worse and lead to serious heart issues.
All the while doctors deny antibiotics were anything to do with it. They are happy to hand them out like sweets and now I have crippling depression with suicidal thoughts and whats worse is the fact that i dont even think i needed to be on them for that long, the doctors were reluctant to see people face to face cos of lockdown and never mentioned the dangers . I'm a shadow of my former self and I don't know if i can continue with this emptiness for much longer. Its a death sentence. I'm just waiting for someone to tell me it was all a bad dream and things will just go back to how they were.

I had a rough experience also with antibiotics that I eventually became allergic to…

This really helped me a lot more than I thought it could, maybe worth giving a try?

 

[Anonymus]

It happened to me with levofloxacin,

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it was literally driving me insane and everything hurt, thank goodness I only took it for a week. The fact is that I was prescribed it two months after the European Union recommended giving it only in cases of extreme need due to the health problems it caused in some people.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/report/summary-ema-public-hearing-quinolone-fluoroquinolone-antibiotics_en.pdf

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A mi em va pasar amb el levofloxacin,

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em tornava literalment boig i em feia mal tot, menys mal que només el vaig prendre una setmana. El cas es que me'l van receptar dos mesos després de que a la Unió Europea es recomenés donar-lo només en casos d'extrema necessitat degut als problemes de salut que causava en algunes persones.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/report/summary-ema-public-hearing-quinolone-fluoroquinolone-antibiotics_es.pdf

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Did anyone here get worse cognitive issues/brainfog, fatigue, etc after a heavy course of antibiotics? I was at high risk of getting sepsis because I had a tumor leaking fluid into my abdominal wall and causing it to be very inflammed, so I was given a course of antibiotics (1.8 grams of the stuff per day) after surgery. I feel so awful and worn out, but I don't know if it was the surgery itself that's making me feel worse or the turbo doses of antibiotics that I finished.

 

[myownpetvirus]

As far as I'm aware (I take antibiotics every several months and have to research each one myself), any direct side effects only persist for as long as the antibiotics taken/injected are still inside the bloodstream. They can, however, also affect/worsen the symptoms of some chronic diseases yet not cause them.
Still... I got my Ph.D. in armchair pharmacology on the internet, so my knowledge may not be entirely correct...

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