Another jump CTB at Disneyland

[nopointinlife]

Huntington Beach elementary school principal dies in apparent suicide at Disneyland

Christopher Christensen, the principal of Newland Elementary School in Huntington Beach, died Saturday.

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I feel bad for his family and loved ones, but also for the innocent bystanders and kids that witnessed the aftermath. Of all the places to jump, doing it where kids will likely see it is not a good place to go.

 

[Teddybear]

Huntington Beach elementary school principal dies in apparent suicide at Disneyland

Christopher Christensen, the principal of Newland Elementary School in Huntington Beach, died Saturday.

news.yahoo.com

I feel bad for his family and loved ones, but also for the innocent bystanders and kids that witnessed the aftermath. Of all the places to jump, doing it where kids will likely see it is not a good place to go.

I totally agree - specially for a teacher.

 

[FuneralCry]

Rest in peace. I so envy those with the courage for jumping. I don't see what the point is to judging people for the method that they used, blame the society instead for denying people a peaceful exit. Sometimes people have no other option for a method and then they get desperate to leave and it's their right to leave this world anyway.

 

[Teddybear]

Rest in peace. I so envy those with the courage for jumping. I don't see what the point is to judging people for the method that they used, blame the society instead for denying people a peaceful exit. Sometimes people have no other option for a method and then they get desperate to leave and it's their right to leave this world anyway.

Taking one's life should be a solitary affair, not an act of revenge at society at large or family & relations in particular.

A big part of my problems stem from my childhood traumata and the last thing I would want to do is mess up another kid's life on my way out.

Being just a bit considerate is what seperates me from all the a*holes who pushed me this far.

 

[sevenkarmas]

I read somewhere that his wife accused him of hurting her or his step kids. He was placed on administrative leave from his school. His wife even recanted, but they still charged him.

 

[affinity]

Taking one's life should be a solitary affair, not an act of revenge at society at large or family & relations in particular.

A big part of my problems stem from my childhood traumata and the last thing I would want to do is mess up another kid's life on my way out.

Being just a bit considerate is what seperates me from all the a*holes who pushed me this far.

Based on his suicide note posted on Facebook, he was angry and trying to make a martyr out of himself/punish others. I've posted a copy below as I loathe giving the NY Post clicks.

Apparently he got into a large fight with his "secret wife" in front of her daughters and she called the police, resulting in child endangerment and battery charges. He insists she regrets doing this and has tried to clear his name, but apparently the legal system was rigged against him.

My take: he could have easily dealt with this case if the facts were as they stated they were. I have a feeling he wasn't exactly being truthful and guilt played a small role as well. It really troubles me that a principal would go out of their way to do this during the busiest time at the park where children are present.

 

[BrainBloodClots]

It's easy to judge when looking at the situation from the outside. Truth is, none of us know what circumstances we may find ourselves in someday.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

His note is certainly not reflective of someone wanting/needing to be vengeful on others. I think he just looked at this method at Disneyland as easiest. I doubt traumatizing anyone was even on his mind.

 

[Teddybear]

Based on his suicide note posted on Facebook, he was angry and trying to make a martyr out of himself/punish others. I've posted a copy below as I loathe giving the NY Post clicks.

Apparently he got into a large fight with his "secret wife" in front of her daughters and she called the police, resulting in child endangerment and battery charges. He insists she regrets doing this and has tried to clear his name, but apparently the legal system was rigged against him.

My take: he could have easily dealt with this case if the facts were as they stated they were. I have a feeling he wasn't exactly being truthful and guilt played a small role as well. It really troubles me that a principal would go out of their way to do this during the busiest time at the park where children are present.

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That dude lost me after the part with "privately married". How - as a school principal - do you marry someone in secrecy?
If you are convinced you need to hide your marriage then how messed up must the rest of your life be?

He was very focused on his outside appearance, on how people perceived him - right up to the end.
I think he build a facade around himself that came crushing down the night his "secret" wife called the police. And rather than cope with the rubble he decided to jump.

His choice but he should have picked a better spot for that - and spared his pupils that deteiled FB post, too. A simple "Sorry, I can't do this no more. Love you all, good bye" would have sufficed. But that text will circulate around his school for years to come - and cause nightmares in some kids.

 

[vexxed]

I don't respect people who go out like this. CTB is by no means selfish in it's nature, but doing in a place like this is by all means selfish. I can't relate to the idea that "just because I'm suffering let's just forget about other human beings and how our actions impact them"

ctb should be private, when I make my jump, it'll be in my apartment with an auto text sent to my family and emergency responders

 

[jcksonb22]

i live down the street from this structure. Pass it everyday

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I don't respect people who go out like this. CTB is by no means selfish in it's nature, but doing in a place like this is by all means selfish. I can't relate to the idea that "just because I'm suffering let's just forget about other human beings and how our actions impact them"

ctb should be private, when I make my jump, it'll be in my apartment with an auto text sent to my family and emergency responders

It may be different in this case but sometimes when people carry out public suicides it can be chalked up to poor impulse control.

 

[vexxed]

It may be different in this case but sometimes when people carry out public suicides it can be chalked up to poor impulse control.

my point still stands, people who physically hurt others when they're angry but not when their stable also have poor impulse control, I would never excuse violence because someone has poor impulse control

 

[LaVieEnRose]

my point still stands, people who physically hurt others when they're angry but not when their stable also have poor impulse control, I would never excuse violence because someone has poor impulse control

I know, I'm just saying that their mindset isn't necessarily one of actively thinking "I don't care, let the witnesses suffer". If their actions caused immediate physical harm, they might've run into the usual mental block. Anyway you can be assured the general attitude around here is against public suicides for the reason you stated.

 

[sevenkarmas]

His father wrote a lot of the theme music for Disneyland, including the Electric Parade stuff. That may be why he chose the spot - it was a connection to his dad (who passed a few years ago). I understand why he ctb'd, but he does come off as a drama llama. His life was heavily curated to display the image he wanted the world to see. Even in the end, he wanted people to blame his wife for his death as he took a jab at her in the note.

 

[Papilio_polyxenes]

I don't respect people who go out like this. CTB is by no means selfish in it's nature, but doing in a place like this is by all means selfish. I can't relate to the idea that "just because I'm suffering let's just forget about other human beings and how our actions impact them"

ctb should be private, when I make my jump, it'll be in my apartment with an auto text sent to my family and emergency responders

Strongly agree. When I CTB, it will either be in a hotel room or an isolated lake in the wilderness - not a crowded place. Have definitely thought about sending automated texts as well.

To me, the act of suicide (as a personal decision) is a matter of individual autonomy and personal choice. There may be good or bad reasons to CTB, but the act itself isn't wrong.

If the intent is to traumatize or get revenge against others, then we are allowed to judge it as wrong. A method like jumping in front of a train or suicide by cop (regardless of my feelings about police) is similarly awful. Nobody should be forced to participate or witness.

 

[Himalayan]

Guy died. The end.

 

[RN12]

probably psych meds where the problem again

 

[affinity]

That dude lost me after the part with "privately married". How - as a school principal - do you marry someone in secrecy?
If you are convinced you need to hide your marriage then how messed up must the rest of your life be?

He was very focused on his outside appearance, on how people perceived him - right up to the end.
I think he build a facade around himself that came crushing down the night his "secret" wife called the police. And rather than cope with the rubble he decided to jump.

His choice but he should have picked a better spot for that - and spared his pupils that deteiled FB post, too. A simple "Sorry, I can't do this no more. Love you all, good bye" would have sufficed. But that text will circulate around his school for years to come - and cause nightmares in some kids.

I found his page last night (I figured Facebook had removed the post). The replies were…unsurprising.

I did see s/c's of comments from his wife, who of course was trying to defend herself against people blaming her for this. He knew she'd be blamed and of course, the Facebook pitchforks were out in full force. The typical, "Don't get married, guys" cavalry arrived as well.

I could have sympathized had he said he lost his temper and he felt extreme guilt for how he acted, but he placed all the blame on her and the "system" for ruining his life. For all we know, she called the police out of fear, not as he referred to as "anger".

I feel badly for her, her daughters, students and any children and their families who were present. This was just unnecessary, overreactive and as someone else mentioned, indicative of poor impulse control - which is the last thing you want in a principal.