Discussion anarchy

[weeping<3willow]

i believe the only way for humans to be empathetic for to each other is without order. as soon as power is obtained the ones on top trick everyone that everyone below is the problem to each other

combined with my belief that humans are not designed to handle clumps of each other beyond tribalism, it makes it impossible for normies to feel bad for people they can't relate to, instead calling them "weak" or other dehumanizing terms

my friend said he hates the idea of people getting hurt in a revolution, but i think people are getting hurt right now way worse than if a revolution began. especially with the invention of the internet, the people in charge have found a way to make it consumeristic with advertisements and social media with built in entertainment to give an illusion of connection with others, leading to wide spread mental illness. they no longer needed to rely on a person sitting in front of a television to rot brains, they have us in our pockets

i don't know tho. maybe i'm just mad at how my life turned out, how i've never been apart of this "we" everyone talks about. i've always been the weird outcast, and i want everyone else to know how i've always felt. maybe they'll change, maybe they'll fall into the same hole of self-despair but with a lack of self-awareness, an even more terrifying fate as they'll never learn what they've done wrong, just feel like a victim

edit: oh there's a philosophy and politics section. i didn't notice, srry. this thread can be moved there if needed.

 

[martyrdom]

I don't at all agree with your part about "normies", they tend to be far more empathetic than people on here. I think it's the other way around, a good chunk of SaSu users have trouble empathising with people they don't relate to. But I am an anarchist (you should read Bakunin and Nechayev to actually understand the ideology, if you haven't) and it's certainly preferable over the current system globally.

 

[weeping<3willow]

I don't at all agree with your part about "normies", they tend to be far more empathetic than people on here. I think it's the other way around, a good chunk of SaSu users have trouble empathising with people they don't relate to. But I am an anarchist (you should read Bakunin and Nechayev to actually understand the ideology, if you haven't) and it's certainly preferable over the current system globally.

i have had the exact opposite experience in regards to your first sentence. most ppl i've known irl will dehumanize anything and anyone that makes them uncomfortable or they can't understand it. examples would b people suffering from homelessness, schizophrenia, histrionic personality disorders, even narcissism where the entire disorder is made as a horrible characteristic and judgement that prevents those people from trying to understand why they should even get help logically. oh, and don't even get me started on people straight up claiming i'm not autistic just bc they don't notice it. i can't rly speak abt people i've met on this website as i only know 1 person tht i met at a residential, but they r extremely more loving and caring than most ppl i've met.

 

[martyrdom]

i have had the exact opposite experience in regards to your first sentence. most ppl i've known irl will dehumanize anything and anyone that makes them uncomfortable or they can't understand it.

There's no shortage of such people for sure, but it's not really a particular characteristic of what you call "normies".

examples would b people suffering from homelessness, schizophrenia

Most of the "normies" I've met don't demonize either of those but that could be a cultural or class difference, cause a lot of my close friends either have been homeless or know someone who has.

histrionic personality disorders, even narcissism where the entire disorder is made as a horrible characteristic and judgement that prevents those people from trying to understand why they should even get help logically

As far as I know most people with NPD don't even know they have it and it's rare for one to be self aware or to even want to get help. But both of those disorders aren't demonized without reason, since they correlate quite often with abusive patterns of behavior. For npd, part of the diagnostic criteria is literally "grandiose sense of self importance, demanding excessive admiration, sense of entitlement, exploitative behaviors, lack of empathy, envy, arrogance" and for histrionic, "inappropriate sexual behavior, overly concerned with physical appearance, uncomfortable when not the center of attention" - those are all traits that no one really likes regardless of the presence of the disorder(s) or lack thereof.

i can't rly speak abt people i've met on this website as i only know 1 person tht i met at a residential, but they r extremely more loving and caring than most ppl i've met.

I've met about 4-5 users here who I would say are normal, good people. Generally a lot of suicidal people, especially on sasu, have such a myopic focus on themselves and their suffering that they become callous and unempathetic - at least in my experience - particularly because I'm an outlier on here and not many people can relate to or understand my situation or my life.

 

[weeping<3willow]

i'm too sedated to debate but we can agree to disagree haha

maybe i'll get back to it in the aftermoon tmrrw