An offer to all

[Flying Away]

I don't expect much of a response because I would like to help people where I can. I want to be a listening ear while I have time left. If you want to chat or some advice I will attempt to provide it. I'm not young but can offer some life experience and 45 years of suffering with mental health issues. I do not judge and respect everyone's wishes. Occasionally we all need to be heard. I'm here to listen.

 

[Marine]

That's very lovely of you.

Do you know how to break a curse that keep one from relationships / substantial bonds against all logic and rationality by any chance ?

 

[Flying Away]

That's very lovely of you.

Do you know how to break a curse that keep one from relationships / substantial bonds against all logic and rationality by any chance ?

Why do you think you have been cursed?

 

[Marine]

Why do you think you have been cursed?

That's just how it manifests.

 

[Flying Away]

That's just how it manifests.

OK. I don't believe in curses but that doesn't lessen your belief in them. Who do you think cursed you?

 

[Marine]

OK. I don't believe in curses but that doesn't lessen your belief in them. Who do you think cursed you?

I didn't say it was necessarily a curse, just that it's phenomenon behaving in the same manner : it can't be explained and even therapists have called it a curse. If there was such a thing my abusive non family would be responsible, they've dabled in black magic. I have no idea whether curses exist, I just use that world tod escribe what's happening, like an invisible repellent energetic barrier if you prefer that no amount of effort or shift in thinking or behaviour seems to affect, that seems completely our of my control and keeps me stuck in hell endlessly.

 

[Flying Away]

I didn't say it was necessarily a curse, just that it's phenomenon behaving in the same manner : it can't be explained and even therapists have called it a curse. If there was such a thing my abusive non family would be responsible, they've dabled in black magic. I have no idea whether curses exist, I just use that world tod escribe what's happening, like an invisible repellent energetic barrier if you prefer that no amount of effort or shift in thinking or behaviour seems to affect, that seems completely our of my control and keeps me stuck in hell endlessly.

How have you tried to break this curse? Sometimes a belief can consume us

 

[Marine]

How have you tried to break this curse? Sometimes a belief can consume us

I don't believe that I'm cursed. I notice what's happening.

I've tried therapy, personal development, self help, improving my social skills, being social active, doing stuff I love, spiritual work, talking about it with people, changing my thoughts, beliefs, behaviours, attitude, all of that in many directions, self hypnosis and too many things to count or even remember.

 

[Flying Away]

I don't believe that I'm cursed. I notice what's happening.

I've tried therapy, personal development, self help, improving my social skills, being social active, doing stuff I love, spiritual work, talking about it with people, changing my thoughts, beliefs, behaviours, attitude, all of that in many directions, self hypnosis and too many things to count or even remember.

Have you tried giving yourself time. Putting you first. What would be your ideal life?

 

[Marine]

Have you tried giving yourself time. Putting you first. What would be your ideal life?

Yes. Didn't work and I'm dying because my needs have been unmet for too long so it's suicidal to do that.

My ideal life would be to find true substantial and lasting love with a fully compatible partner, and consequently truly exist and have a place in the world, be skinny, young, healthy and beautiful, and fulfilled in my daily life. Free from trauma, curse and hell. Having real friends. Living in an environment where I can be well, doing purposeful work that I love and has a positive transformative impact on the world.

 

[Flying Away]

Yes. Didn't work and I'm dying because my needs have been unmet for too long so it's suicidal to do that.

My ideal life would be to find true substantial and lasting love with a fully compatible partner, and consequently truly exist and have a place in the world, be skinny, young, healthy and beautiful, and fulfilled in my daily life. Free from trauma, curse and hell. Having real friends. Living in an environment where I can be well, doing purposeful work that I love and has a positive transformative impact on the world.

Lots of people who are skinny, beautiful, even famous lead lives filled with doubt. Depression is just as biting to the rich and the poor. Where do you go to meet people?

 

[Marine]

Lots of people who are skinny, beautiful, even famous lead lives filled with doubt. Depression is just as biting to the rich and the poor. Where do you go to meet people?

I don't care about other people. I happen to need that to be happy, authentic and fulfilled. Period. It's not negotiable. I'd rather die than live otherwise. I NEED these and they should still be attainable.

Bars, clubs, university, associations, mutual help groups, conferences, game jams, resistant groups, cafes, concerts... Substract what's been taken from me since the plandemic, aka most of these.

 

[Flying Away]

I have to be honest. No one needs those things to be fulfilled. We may want them but we don't need them. To be authentic we must be ourselves and except who we are. Give ourselves permission to feel down.

The places you mention are open again in most of the world. When we're you last happy? For me it's been a while.

 

[cantwaittoleave]

I don't expect much of a response because I would like to help people where I can. I want to be a listening ear while I have time left. If you want to chat or some advice I will attempt to provide it. I'm not young but can offer some life experience and 45 years of suffering with mental health issues. I do not judge and respect everyone's wishes. Occasionally we all need to be heard. I'm here to listen.

That's very kind of you. I love seeing people who want to do things like this and I myself have tried to be that helping hand sometimes. I'd love to chat, but I don't know how private messaging on here works since I'm new to this website.

 

[VirtualSnow]

I don't really want to waste much of your time, but since you mentioned being 45 and having mental health issues, I wanted to ask the following.
How have you been holding up? I can't comprehend how anyone could survive for that long while suffering, I've been alive for less time and I already feel like it's way too much to stand.
Oh, and also, thanks for the thread, it's good to see that there's still people out there that do want to help.

 

[Marine]

I have to be honest. No one needs those things to be fulfilled. We may want them but we don't need them. To be authentic we must be ourselves and except who we are. Give ourselves permission to feel down.

The places you mention are open again in most of the world. When we're you last happy? For me it's been a while.

Are you offering help or judment here ? No one other than myself can tell me what I need or not. I'm the only one deciding and knowing that stuff. I'm taking that as trolling. Never mind then. I'm out of here.

 

[Flying Away]

Are you offering help or judment here ? No one other than myself can tell me what I need or not. I'm the only one deciding and knowing that stuff. I'm taking that as trolling. Never mind then. Go on without me.

I am not judging you at all. I have things that I need to remain in this world and only you can decide your fate. I want to listen. How do you think you can achieve what you need? If I can help you I will

That's very kind of you. I love seeing people who want to do things like this and I myself have tried to be that helping hand sometimes. I'd love to chat, but I don't know how private messaging on here works since I'm new to this website.

I have messaged you

 

[Marine]

I am not judging you at all. I have things that I need to remain in this world and only you can decide your fate. I want to listen. How do you think you can achieve what you need? If I can help you I will

I have messaged you

If we could decide our fates I'm pretty sure none of us would be here.

 

[Flying Away]

If we could decide our fates I'm pretty sure none of us would be here.

That is very true. If you found someone do you think it would help?

 

[Marine]

That is very true. If you found someone do you think it would help?

That's the only thing that can actually save me, yes. I know from my experiences of approaching it, ascertainment of my fundamental needs and experiences so far, and scientific research on healing complex trauma, that everything else will fall into place then.

 

[KQuotientW]

When I had a house in a normal suburb that I'd filled with fruit trees and vegetable garden. Cheeky native parrots would come and eat fruit. I was happier. It was outside of the city, but close enough if I needed to go to the city. Police took that home away from me without any charges and unlawfully. An ex (not really an ex, but a nuisance who wouldn't far cough) was a cop who was a sexual predator. Police protected him and punished anyone who spoke out. I was kicked out of the home I owned, outright, with no charges (because i hadn't committed a crime), but they went after me. If a cop wants a relationship with you or offers you a lift home, just run. They are evil pizzas of chit. The next town I moved to, they told police there, my story. They've been after me here, too. 3 decades of their shit. They protect their own. I've been stuck in this hellhole town ever since and I'm miserable. I have a stalker (not an ex and not the former cop) and police do nothing about him. Far king Bast herds. My life is just shit.

 

[Flying Away]

That's the only thing that can actually save me, yes. I know from my experiences of approaching it and ascertainment of my needs and experiences so far that everything else will fall into place then.

I'm 59 and haven't found that. Your needs can be met but I know it's not always easy. Our needs change with time. What I needed at 20 is not the same as I need today

When I had a house in a normal suburb that I'd filled with fruit trees and vegetable garden. Cheeky native parrots would come and eat fruit. I was happier. It was outside of the city, but close enough if I needed to go to the city. Police took that home away from me without any charges and unlawfully. An ex (not really an ex, but a nuisance who wouldn't far cough) was a cop who was a sexual predator. Police protected him and punished anyone who spoke out. I was kicked out of the home I owned, outright, with no charges (because i hadn't committed a crime), but they went after me. If a cop wants a relationship with you or offers you a lift home, just run. They are evil pizzas of chit. The next town I moved to, they told police there, my story. They've been after me here, too. 3 decades of their shit. They protect their own. I've been stuck in this hellhole town ever since and I'm miserable. I have a stalker (not an ex and not the former cop) and police do nothing about him. Far king Bast herds. My life is just shit.

That's absolutely dreadful. Is there no higher authority you can speak to?

 

[Marine]

I'm 59 and haven't found that. Your needs can be met but I know it's not always easy. Our needs change with time. What I needed at 20 is not the same as I need today

That's absolutely dreadful. Is there no higher authority you can speak to?

Vital and fundamental needs don't ever change until they're met. Your experience isn't mine. I won't survive or live without it as a matter of fact. I direct you to research on people dying of lovelessness.

I don't see the point of a conversation that is in fact judment and denial of others' needs without knowledge of their situation. It's just insulting at this point.

 

[Flying Away]

Vital and fundamental needs don't ever change until they're met. Your experience isn't mine. I won't survive or live without it as a matter of fact. I direct you to research on people dying of lovelessness.

I don't see the point of a conversation that is in fact judment and denial of other's needs without knowledge of their situation.

It is neither judgemental or any form of denial. Fundamental needs are things we need to live. I understand exactly what loneliness is.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I don't care about other people. I happen to need that to be happy, authentic and fulfilled. Period. It's not negotiable. I'd rather die than live otherwise. I NEED these and they should still be attainable.

Bars, clubs, university, associations, mutual help groups, conferences, game jams, resistant groups, cafes, concerts... Substract what's been taken from me since the plandemic, aka most of these.

My opinion is that the universe in its cold and uncaring cruelty, doesn't make these perks attainable for everyone, it reserves them only for certain fortunate people. There are people who live and die fat, undesired, unknown. For these people, it was never attainable, because well, they never attained it. Asserting "but they could have" is appealing to counterfactual, unreal alternative universes. It's a brutal nightmare of a roulette.

 

[Flying Away]

My opinion is that the universe in its cold and uncaring cruelty, doesn't make these perks attainable for everyone, it reserves them only for certain fortunate people. There are people who live and die fat, undesired, unknown. For these people, it was never attainable, because well, they never attained it. Asserting "but they could have" is appealing to counterfactual, unreal alternative universes. It's a brutal nightmare of a roulette.

I agree to a degree. The world is full of people who did achieve their goals but many fall short. I do know nothing is just given to us without us putting the effort in

 

[Marine]

My opinion is that the universe in its cold and uncaring cruelty, doesn't make these perks attainable for everyone, it reserves them only for certain fortunate people. There are people who live and die fat, undesired, unknown. For these people, it was never attainable, because well, they never attained it. Asserting "but they could have" is appealing to counterfactual, unreal alternative universes. It's a brutal nightmare of a roulette.

It's logically attainable in my situation if my needs are met and I'm not technically far from it, I've also approached it many times when I was closer to meeting my needs. Again, I'm talking about my particular situation here. Let's not hijack that in a way that ends up attacking someone pointlessly who's trying to find hope in the midst of hell, that wouldn't be worthy of this site.

Telling me that is basically a death sentence and no thanks, I'm not here for that while I can help it, the universe had enough chances to let me die and brought me back against all odds instead, and I dont intend for that to just prolong my torture. I don't care how cruel or uncaring it might be, or if it is at all, I'm just as determined. There is good in this world and it's not only available to priviledged people. Things can be turned around sometimes.

As long as I'm alive I won't give up and won't let anobody tell me what I can or can't do. If I end up wasted I'll pray for that world to burn like I said before and hopefully get a chance in a next life.

I think most people who didn't attain that gave up at some point or were too removed from that possibility. Not gonna happen here.

 

[Flying Away]

It's logically attainable in my situation if my needs are met and I'm not technically far from it, I've also approached it many times when I was closer to meeting my needs. Again, I'm talking about my particular situation here. Let's not hijack that in a way that ends up attacking someone pointlessly who's trying to find hope in the midst of hell, that wouldn't be worthy of this site.

Telling me that is basically a death sentence and no thanks, I'm not here for that while I can help it, the universe had enough chances to let me die. I don't care how cruel or uncaring it might be, I'm just as determined.

As long as I'm alive I won't give up and won't let anobody tell me what I can or not do. If I end up wasted I'll pray for that world to burn like I said before and hopefully get a chance in a next life.

I think most people who didn't attain that gave up at some point or were too removed from that possibility. Not gonna happen here.

I don't think anyone is attacking you. You can obtain your goals. Everyone can. Just needs a bit of work. I have faith in you

 

[Superdeterminist]

It's logically attainable in my situation if my needs are met and I'm not technically far from it, I've also approached it many times when I was closer to meeting my needs. Again, I'm talking about my particular situation here. Let's not hijack that in a way that ends up attacking someone pointlessly who's trying to find hope in the midst of hell, that wouldn't be worthy of this site.

Telling me that is basically a death sentence and no thanks, I'm not here for that while I can help it, the universe had enough chances to let me die. I don't care how cruel or uncaring it might be, I'm just as determined.

As long as I'm alive I won't give up and won't let anobody tell me what I can or not do. If I end up wasted I'll make it so the world burn as well like I said before.

I think most people who didn't attain that gave up at some point or were too removed from that possibility. Not gonna happen here.

Certainly, it could be attainable for you, we don't know the future after all. It's not over until it's over, and so forth. What I want to stress is, this "could" just reflects our uncertainty of the future, what it doesn't and cannot reflect, is some range of possible futures and appointing us as selectors of which future the universe evolves into. Only a god could do such a thing

 

[Flying Away]

Certainly, it could be attainable for you, we don't know the future after all. It's not over until it's over, and so forth. What I want to stress is, this "could" just reflects our uncertainty of the future, what it doesn't and cannot reflect, is some range of possible futures and appointing us as selectors of which future the universe evolves into. Only a god could do such a thing

Don't agree with the god thing.