Resource Amitriptyline cocktail method

[Donewith_]

I wouldn't recommend it, tbh

Why
What are the drawbacks if any

 

[Anima]

I am by no means an expert but the commended dose for both the short- and the long-acting substance are quite high and I highly doubt that zolpidem would be enough. It might also have a different effect than the others. Just have a bad feeling about it....

 

[Anima]

I have been wondering, what do you think will happen if you only use a short-acting type of Benzo like Lorazepame?

 

[deathbycakes]

I have been wondering, what do you think will happen if you only use a short-acting type of Benzo like Lorazepame?

you'd wake up to experiences the side effects prob

 

[Kingkelly]

you'd wake up to experiences the side effects prob

Ya this is what I'm worried about. I guess we are going to have to suffer somewhat

 

[deflagrat]

I have diazepam and lormetazepam, both long and short acting. I hope it's enough.

 

[Donewith_]

I have been wondering, what do you think will happen if you only use a short-acting type of Benzo like Lorazepame?

Short acting benzos puts you in sleep for less period of time(soon after taking them). So they put you in sleep until the long acting benzos start to kick in.
So if you take only short, as @deathbycakes said, you might wake up after their(short actingB) effects wear off.(some say amit. Itself is sedative, I am not very sure about it,don't know).

Taken enough benzos ,this method is peaceful

 

[Kingkelly]

Short acting benzos puts you in sleep for less period of time(soon after taking them). So they put you in sleep until the long acting benzos start to kick in.
So if you take only short, as @deathbycakes said, you might wake up after their(short actingB) effects wear off.(some say amit. Itself is sedative, I am not very sure about it,don't know).

Taken enough benzos ,this method is peaceful

I have no benzos so I don't think it'll work for me

 

[NoOneKnows]

I think is better to take Zolpidem, if you have no benzo than nothing. Once you lose consiousness,and you have inside you that what would be the fatal dose for you (!), highly unlikely you will regain consiousness later on ,to wait till the amytr finishes its job. If you dont get medical intervention of course.
This is the tricky part of TCA ODs, that the fatal dose for each and every person vary quite a lot. It has to do a lot with inherent differences in metabolism of this drug etc..There were fatal outcomes with 3g, but there was also one case who survived even 10 g (thats rarity)...

I am short of short acting benzos , but, I have zoplidem ..totally 60 mg..So, will adding that to my amit. cocktail help?

 

[Donewith_]

Thanks. I'll try to take.

there was also one case who survived even 10 g (thats rarity)...

Lol..i can't even imagine a person survived such a large dose. Honestly.. wtf

 

[Shewaitsforme]

Drug addicts sourse on Zolpidem (Ambien). Every body metabolises at different rates so OD is definatly not a one specific does fits all.

At 70 mg, you may begin to experience serious adverse effects of taking too much Ambien, although this dose is low enough that you probably won't suffer permanent injury. The amount needed to overdose can range from 400-600 mg. But even this dose probably won't kill you – the reported fatal dose for Ambien is much higher, at 2000 mg.

 

[DeletedUser4739]

Tricyclic antidepressants patients are in a particular high-risk situation," McKinney said. "Typically a person is depressed over a long time; he goes to a psychiatrist and after some psych workshop procedures it's decided he needs an antidepressant. Classically, Elavil is prescribed. Elavil takes three to eight weeks to work and an average of four weeks. The person may not be told clearly enough or may not want to hear that the drug takes a long time. Two weeks later he bolts upright and says, "This is the biggest crock of shit,' and swallows the rest of them."

The phenothiazines, or major tranquilizers. are used to calm down psychosis or extreme anxiety. The tricyclic antidepressants are chemical mood elevators. Both work by somehow altering the minute bursts of chemicals which neurons send across the synapses, or gaps between nerves, to carry impulses from one nerve to another.

Because they affect the nervous system which in turn reacts with every other system in the body, psychiatric drugs have lots of side-effects- dilated pupils, dry mouth, feverishness, speeded-up heartrate, slowed-down digestive muscles, breakdowns in coordination, rolling eyes. Overdose can accelerate these in any part of the body. I once met a man whose hand muscles had contracted violently after a phenothiazine overdose, leaving his fingers permanently warped. Tardive dyskinesia, a Parkinson's Disease-like condition caused in some patients by long-term use of the drugs, can be accelerated by an overdose. Probably the most common permanent damage from overdose is brain damage, caused by seizures and fibrillation.

The exotic drugs of mystery novels, strychnine and cyanide, are painful and deadly but rarely show up in emergency rooms. What shows up all the time are sleeping pills and mood pills- the sedative hypnotics- barbiturates like Seconal, mild tranquilizer like Valium. Typically, a sedative overdose will do nothing more than put you to sleep for a day or two and leave you with a bad hangover and a case of the slows when you wake up. But like many other overdoses, sedatives are often taken with alcohol, which makes people nauseous. Anyone who vomits when they're passed out risks sucking some of the vomit into their lungs, which is called aspiration.

It's as dangerous as it sounds disgusting. Vomit contains enzymes from the stomach that destroy tissue, and those go to work on the lung walls. It also contains a rich broth of food, perfect for pneumonia bugs to grow in. People can also drown in vomit; which keeps air from getting to the brain, which once again causes brain damage. An aspirating patient goes into intensive care; a device called a bronchoscope is used to look into their lungs and pull out whatever pieces of vomit it can.

Drug overdoses are always unpredictable. The drugs react with other drugs people take at the time, with alcohol, with odd allergies, and drugs lying around the bloodstream from years before. "One fellow took four cold tablets," McKinney said, "and went to an emergency room complaining of a headache. He blew the blood vessels behind one of his eyes out.""
I think it can leave you in a very bad place. Brain damaged, hepatic coma, burned intestines etc.
It all sounds frightening to me; it was my method of choice, but I am not sure anymore. I have a lot of trimipramine and amitriptyline, probably interchangeable, some short acting benzo, meto, but no cimetidine or long acting benzo as of yet.
http://www.psyke.org/history/200003/suicide/articles03.html

All this, among other reason, is why drug cocktail methods of any sort are no longer a method of choice for me.

I missed this original source on this information. Is it posted elsewhere or on this site? Thx

 

[Anima]

All this, among other reason, is why drug cocktail methods of any sort are no longer a method of choice for me.

I missed this original source on this information. Is it posted elsewhere or on this site? Thx

Yeah it seems to be quite risky really *sighs
Don't know, I found it a while ago while reasearching possible ways to finally end this miserable life

 

[Kingkelly]

Is anyone considering this method?,

 

[Schizoid]

I have an eye disease that makes me slowly blind(Glaucoma). Can an Amitriptyline overdose damage my eye?

 

[Donewith_]

Is anyone using flecainide instead of cimetidine? Where did you get it from?

 

[CRPS Sucks]

I have 2 prescription anti-nausea, nortrip. (6g), Tagamet, Val. (550mg). I have a painful nerve disease so I was able to get nortrip., just been stocking up the last 2 months. My disease creates bad muscle spasms and insomnia so I just asked 2 different drs for Val. Tagamet is OTC. I'm in a wheelchair so motion sickness is out but researched a treatment med for CRPS. You take it for 5 days but it causes nausea so I got the patch that goes behind the ear plus 7 doses of Zofran. All ready to go, just need to go to pharmacy to pickup a few of these and choose a date where I can be undisturbed. I have a wife and kid so I'm waiting for the right time. Don't want to be found early. Sounds like if they try to save you, then you're a vegetable.
I'm confident in the lethality. I'm confident that I'll be comotose and unaware when the nortrip. Does it's thing. Adding alcohol with the Valium intensifies the sleep aspect and also creates "amnesia". Basically shuts your brain down and hastens death. Most likely won't be able to execute this until February sometime Ugh

 

[CRPS Sucks]

Any thoughts on fasting from food and/or water so you don't have to "go" during the process?

 

[Anima]

Any thoughts on fasting from food and/or water so you don't have to "go" during the process?

I don't know for sure but I do recommend not eating for at least 8 hours before, maybe even longer.

 

[CRPS Sucks]

I don't know for sure but I do recommend not eating for at least 8 hours before, maybe even longer.

Seems logical. Plus, my research says TCAs like nortrip naturally slows down GI. Better to not have food in there taking up energy to digest. That way it only has meds to work on.

 

[CRPS Sucks]

Is anyone considering this method?,

Yes. Gave my story in this thread. But easiest to acquire meds needed. Just takes time and creativity. It's taken me about 2 months to get meds through drs. I was weary of online pharmacies. Turns out it was pretty easy to get from drs. Read over 25 studies and medical opinions on this method and it seems peaceful and guaranteed if done correctly.

 

[jumprope]

Does anyone have first hand experience with this method, that you can talk about?

 

[Donewith_]

I have 280 mg valium, 15 mg xanax.. for my amitriptyline cocktail.. will these benzos be enough to make the process peaceful? Is it reliable?

 

[311]

I have 280 mg valium, 15 mg xanax.. for my amitriptyline cocktail.. will these benzos be enough to make the process peaceful? Is it reliable?

It will be peaceful and reliable. Just make sure to use meto. Also it's good you have a short acting and long acting benzo

 

[Arak]

Is anything known about the lethality (%) of this method ? I have been unable to find anything re: probability.

 

[JohnDoe1]

Is anything known about the lethality (%) of this method ? I have been unable to find anything re: probability.

PPeH gives it a reliability rating of 8 out of 10....it's pretty lethal, I would say lethality is 100% provided everything goes alright...no vomiting, no interruptions, proper dosage etc...

 

[311]

Is anything known about the lethality (%) of this method ? I have been unable to find anything re: probability.

its quite reliable, 9/10 in ppeh

 

[JohnDoe1]

Those who can, should try to get their hands on Dosulepin...it's significantly more toxic than Amitriptyline...so much so, that it has been banned in US and Canada. Still available everywhere else in the world

 

[Arak]

@311,

Well I see an '8 out of 10' in the Oct PPEH.

 

[JohnDoe1]

@311,

Well I see an '8 out of 10' in the Oct PPEH.

It was 9 out of 10 in previous editions...they took a point off, didn't gave any reason...but, they also say that failure with this method is rare