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Yeah Ami has risks , brain damage if regimen not followed or rescued too soon . It usually brings comatose state before death . So if one took bit too little or saved during that stage -- one would remain alive (in a coma or awake and somewhat damaged) .

Some members reported that months after failed Ami attempt they had motor , memory , speech , concentration problems -- pronounced though not debilitating . The worst reported was terrible migraines , but like , debilitating . I'm sure there are worse cases not reported here ..

There are several reports of members that tried . I read them but too tired to look/search now . Although failed attempt took its toll they appear to be doing okay , considering , with some lasting effects , but obviously they wanted to ctb regardless (I cannot speak on they're behalf... Just what I remember/interpret ) . I think their biggest "regret" was taking too little (like 5g) or being rescued .

Really need that high dosage (8g+) , lots of sedation , and time not to be rescued -- then it's peaceful and certain .
Quarky what do you think is more important the ami dose or the benzo dose? And do you belive in tge 48 hr window or thin its exagerrated?
I normally wouldnt talk so matter of fact but the earler poster confuses me. An offspring attempts suicide and then they join a pro choice website , with a pro life message, on the same day while the person is very ill in hospital ?

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Quarky what do you think is more important the ami dose or the benzo dose? And do you belive in tge 48 hr window or thin its exagerrated?
I think both . Ami important for fatality . Benzo for peacefulness (otherwise violent death) . Too little Ami you survive , too little benzo it would be horrible .. I think .

I assumed 24h is enough , but member here mentioned 30h , though with low dosage. I still think huge dose 24h is enough -- but perhaps better be on the safe side? I personally change my Ami plan (which is backup for SN) from 24h to 36h.

An offspring attempts suicide and then they join a pro choice website , with a pro life message, on the same day while the person is very ill in hospital ?
I think @schizomom sounds very distressed and in pain . I don't know about motives . Maybe her son is in hospital and she's looking for answers , searching the internet for that method , and ran into this thread ? People in severe pain do things .

I'm not sure the message was pro-life per se . She kinda wrote "Just do it right" and "Don't ctb if you have some hope". She did not say or imply not to do it . She wrote "leave a note for your mom" . Kinda said how to do it properly ... This had a tone of acceptance . And was touching . "No peace for me" , sharing true agony rather than guilt tripping , attacking , or blaming .

Many long time members said if one has some doubt or some hope -- maybe it's not the time to ctb . Just like mom here .

I'm speaking "in her defense" , sorta , but it was puzzling . Maybe @schizomom could share with us :heart:
 
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I think both . Ami important for fatality . Benzo for peacefulness (otherwise violent death) . Too little Ami you survive , too little benzo it would be horrible .. I think .

I assumed 24h is enough , but member here mentioned 30h , though with low dosage. I still think huge dose 24h is enough -- but perhaps better be on the safe side? I personally change my Ami plan (which is backup for SN) from 24h to 36h.


I think @schizomom sounds very distressed and in pain . I don't know about motives . Maybe her son is in hospital and she's looking for answers , searching the internet for that method , and ran into this thread ? People in severe pain do things .

I'm not sure the message was pro-life per se . She kinda wrote "Just do it right" and "Don't ctb if you have some hope". She did not say or imply not to do it . She wrote "leave a note for your mom" . Kinda said how to do it properly ... This had a tone of acceptance . And was touching . "No peace for me" , sharing true agony rather than guilt tripping , attacking , or blaming .

Many long time members said if one has some doubt or some hope -- maybe it's not the time to ctb . Just like mom here .

I'm speaking "in her defense" , sorta , but it was puzzling . Maybe @schizomom could share with us :heart:
Quarky you are so compassionate and fair. Its almost annoying lol.
But thank you.
 
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Ah, the Midazolam idea was coming from here
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline-cocktail-advice.16570/

I assumed 24h is enough , but member here mentioned 30h , though with low dosage. I still think huge dose 24h is enough -- but perhaps better be on the safe side? I personally change my Ami plan (which is backup for SN) from 24h to 36h.

Single account found of survival > 48hrs but unknown data
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-is-oding-on-amitriptyline-like.22213/#post-411832

Other alarming accounts of regimen not followed entirely, either expected failures or peaceless/painful success
Ami : 5.5g - misc : benadryl ambien quetiapine - AE : no ? - Benzo : lorazepam 10g - Alcool : 0.5L Bourbon - Rescued : no (29 hours sleep)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.9594/#post-554053
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.27700/#post-570727
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail.32385/#post-597920
Ami : 8g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : no (death)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...yline-the-next-best-option.26580/#post-487047
Ami : 5g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520880
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520907
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520916
Ami : 2g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322448
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322490
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322592
Ami : lots ? - misc : codeine paracetamol - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-final-choice-amitriptyline.22341/#post-414267
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-323595
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-324167
Ami : ? - AE : no ? - Benzo : diazepam- Alcool : no ? - Rescued : ?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sleeping-pills-suggestions.16579/#post-319669
 
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Ah, the Midazolam idea was coming from here
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline-cocktail-advice.16570/



Single account found of survival > 48hrs but unknown data
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-is-oding-on-amitriptyline-like.22213/#post-411832

Other alarming accounts of regimen not followed entirely, either expected failures or peaceless/painful success
Ami : 5.5g - misc : benadryl ambien quetiapine - AE : no ? - Benzo : lorazepam 10g - Alcool : 0.5L Bourbon - Rescued : no (29 hours sleep)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.9594/#post-554053
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.27700/#post-570727
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail.32385/#post-597920
Ami : 8g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : no (death)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...yline-the-next-best-option.26580/#post-487047
Ami : 5g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520880
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520907
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptiline-cocktail-advice.28653/#post-520916
Ami : 2g - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322448
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322490
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-322592
Ami : lots ? - misc : codeine paracetamol - AE : no ? - Benzo : no ? - Alcool : no ? - Rescued : yes
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-final-choice-amitriptyline.22341/#post-414267
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-323595
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline.13011/#post-324167
Ami : ? - AE : no ? - Benzo : diazepam- Alcool : no ? - Rescued : ?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sleeping-pills-suggestions.16579/#post-319669
Where are you? I have sleeping pills, but not SN
Quarky you are so compassionate and fair. Its almost annoying lol.
But thank you.
@Quarky00 is one of the best here
 
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