Am I gonna go to hell?

[DreamEnd]

I don't want to suffer anymore. I'm done. I just want peace. If god exists I hope he understands

 

[Stormy Raine]

That's my biggest fear, living hell on earth and going to hell. I would hope he would forgive me, I'm exhausted

 

[Challu]

If you want a Christian's perspective, I will answer.

There is no such thing as "Eternal Conscious Torment", which is the most popular view of Hell from Evangelicals and Catholics.
This is a Hell where people infamously will "burn in agony"... THIS IS NOT CORRECT.

If you die, in Christ, your sins will be merited upon Christ and you will be saved.
If you die without Christ, you answer for your own sins, and receive punishment through the chastisement of God, as through fire. But this will only be to purify you, to remove the sins that Christ would have taken for you.

So, its my belief that accepting Jesus would be enough to save you from the "hell" that you asked of.

 

[Slipkorn]

We're already in hell.
Also suicide isn't an automatic way there. Hell is reserved for those that chose an evil life, not a bad decision.
The Bible was written by man, and Christianity is man's religion. Take it with a grain of salt.
Some will take it as the "literal" word of GOD, when really it's the translated word.

If you truly want to know the answer, you'll need to create that relationship with GOD yourself.

 

[LostinCyberspace]

He will if you believe Jesus is the savior of all mankind and confess with your mouth that you have faith in him. There's nothing our Lord is incapable of accomplishing. Assuming you're Christian, of course. If Muslim or Jew, just believe whatever direction God calls you. He is very merciful.

 

[DreamEnd]

He will if you believe Jesus is the savior of all mankind and confess with your mouth that you have faith in him. There's nothing our Lord is incapable of accomplishing.

I have done that but i have not lived a particularly good life. I have been mean to my parents and am a burden to them. I just want to be forgiven

 

[unnormal9]

No. But if you believe in delusions, then no.

 

[LostinCyberspace]

I have done that but i have not lived a particularly good life. I have been mean to my parents and am a burden to them. I just want to be forgiven

Lmao! Don't be silly. You think God really cares about that? Of course it pains Him that you haven't honored your parents and not followed your commandments He gave you but I can see you're in pain and are truly sorry, and if I were in God's shoes I would have mercy on you. If someone as miserable as me feels compassion for you, imagine how much more the Lord feels for you?

Also, the Lord knows we're going to make mistakes and succumb to temptation. He doesn't expect us to be perfect, only to try. I'll pray for you OP.

 

[outrider567]

I don't want to suffer anymore. I'm done. I just want peace. If god exists I hope he understands

He will

 

[Challu]

I have done that but i have not lived a particularly good life. I have been mean to my parents and am a burden to them. I just want to be forgiven

Jesus only asks that you ask to be forgiven for your sins. If you place your sins, upon the cross then believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, as your Savior, then you will be saved. And as it concerns your lingering negative feelings, do what is right, make amends if you are led to, or change your behavior to resemble the example of Christ -- who is slow to anger, forgiving, obedient and kind. If that is too hard, its ok to not change all at once. Just, treat them as you would want them to treat you.
So, if it concerns you enough, start there.

 

[Vizzy]

Jesus only asks that you ask to be forgiven for your sins. If you place your sins, upon the cross then believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, as your Savior, then you will be saved. And as it concerns your lingering negative feelings, do what is right, make amends if you are led to, or change your behavior to resemble the example of Christ -- who is slow to anger, forgiving, obedient and kind. If that is too hard, its ok to not change all at once. Just, treat them as you would want them to treat you.
So, if it concerns you enough, start there.

These god talks are just making people more hurt and more suicidal

From my perspective, after we born we don't know where we came from, after we die we don't know where we go, no one knows whether afterlife or hell exists or not unless we die to know that

I personally think god doesn't exist and if god exist, god must be the worst and evil person to make this world unfair and putting people through cruel situations

Just stop these god talks in suicide discussions, you are welcomed to do it in recovery section!

 

[Challu]

These god talks are just making people more hurt and more suicidal

From my perspective, after we born we don't know where we came from, after we die we don't know where we go, no one knows whether afterlife or hell exists or not unless we die to know that

I personally think god doesn't exist and if god exist, god must be the worst and evil person to make this world unfair and putting people through cruel situations

Just stop these god talks in suicide discussions, you are welcomed to do it in recovery section!

Didn't the OP literally pose a question about God? If you want to assume they are speaking figuratively then that is your mind, but I want to address them in the way that I feel could help them. Some people want answers, or at least, in what may be your perspective, the "illusion" of an answer, to help them feel better.

 

[Vizzy]

Didn't the OP literally pose a question about God? If you want to assume they are speaking figuratively then that is your mind, but I want to address them in the way that I feel could help them. Some people want answers, or at least, in what may be your perspective, the "illusion" of an answer, to help them feel better.

I would say this topic itself should not be in suicide discussion

It should be in off topic ———-> politics and philosophy or else in the recovery section

 

[Challu]

I would say this topic itself should not be in suicide discussion

It should be in off topic ———-> politics and philosophy or else in the recovery section

Agreed. I'll post my own topics of this nature in a different place. My replies though, will be wherever I feel inclined to post them.

 

[Vizzy]

Didn't the OP literally pose a question about God? If you want to assume they are speaking figuratively then that is your mind, but I want to address them in the way that I feel could help them. Some people want answers, or at least, in what may be your perspective, the "illusion" of an answer, to help them feel better.

Question was about hell not god!

Obviously it is an illusion , it is not proven anyways that god exists, we humans are good in creating something which doesn't exist and top of it building it to a point where people forget all these are illusion!

 

[LaVieEnRose]

We're biological machines running on oxygen and glucose (hence why we die when deprived of those things) just like all the other millions of other animal species in the world. The process of cellular respiration that powers our brains is the exact same one that powers the brain of the fly you swat or of the ant you crush or of the animals we farm and eat.

As creatures with richly distinct and unique subjective experiences we naturally are going to be attached to our individual lives and understandably perhaps ascribe to them more significance than they truly possess. In the scheme of things an individual organism's existence means nothing or very close to it. This fact is reflected in all aspects of evolutionary biology (humans evolved according to the same principles as everything else).

if such cicircumstances were imposed on you that you felt compelled to end your life I'd say you've been through enough hell.

 

[Forever Sleep]

These god talks are just making people more hurt and more suicidal

From my perspective, after we born we don't know where we came from, after we die we don't know where we go, no one knows whether afterlife or hell exists or not unless we die to know that

I personally think god doesn't exist and if god exist, god must be the worst and evil person to make this world unfair and putting people through cruel situations

Just stop these god talks in suicide discussions, you are welcomed to do it in recovery section!

I do feel more like you- that it's more likely that God doesn't exist. I also tend to feel a bit triggered by talk of God and religion.

Still- if you KNOW it triggers you- Why click on a thread about Hell = likely religion = God? There are plenty of threads in this section that aren't exclusively about suicide. This actually was about suicide and it's possible consequences for someone religious.

Maybe it would have been better in 'Off Topic' but it doesn't seem to me like the OP is talking about recovery- they are worried about the religious consequences of CTB. That's not going to make any sense to someone who isn't religious but to them- it's a big deal.

I do understand why it's trigering but maybe we just need to steer clear of threads we know we're not going to be able to relate to- and leave it to people that do- rather than to try and oust them from the 'main' part of the forum.

 

[unnormal9]

These god talks are just making people more hurt and more suicidal
Just stop these god talks in suicide discussions, you are welcomed to do it in recovery section!

Yep.

We're biological machines running on oxygen and glucose (hence why we die when deprived of those things) just like all the other millions of other animal species in the world. The process of cellular respiration that powers our brains is the exact same one that powers the brain of the fly you swat or of the ant you crush or of the animals we farm and eat.

As creatures with richly distinct and unique subjective experiences we naturally are going to be attached to our individual lives and understandably perhaps ascribe to them more significance than they truly possess. In the scheme of things an individual organism's existence means nothing or very close to it. This fact is reflected in all aspects of evolutionary biology (humans evolved according to the same principles as everything else).

if such cicircumstances were imposed on you that you felt compelled to end your life I'd say you've been through enough hell.

I'm not a fucking machine, dammit I'm a human of flesh and blood.
Take that shit back to the pit.

 

[Vizzy]

I do feel more like you- that it's more likely that God doesn't exist. I also tend to feel a bit triggered by talk of God and religion.

Still- if you KNOW it triggers you- Why click on a thread about Hell = likely religion = God? There are plenty of threads in this section that aren't exclusively about suicide. This actually was about suicide and it's possible consequences for someone religious.

Maybe it would have been better in 'Off Topic' but it doesn't seem to me like the OP is talking about recovery- they are worried about the religious consequences of CTB. That's not going to make any sense to someone who isn't religious but to them- it's a big deal.

I do understand why it's trigering but maybe we just need to steer clear of threads we know we're not going to be able to relate to- and leave it to people that do- rather than to try and oust them from the 'main' part of the forum.

I am not clicking this, if this topic was in recovery section or off topic ——-> politics and philosophy but this was posted in suicide discussion so I don't know what is this before I click this topic and read the comments

 

[macrocosm]

No such thing, unless you consider life itself a hell

 

[Forever Sleep]

I am not clicking this, if this topic was in recovery section or off topic ——-> politics and philosophy but this was posted in suicide discussion so I don't know what is this before I click this topic and read the comments

Seemed very likely it was- If I commit suicide- 'Am I gonna go to hell?' The concept and act of suicide creates specific worries for people who are religious.

I can't say I can always relate to people with very religious beliefs. So, sometimes it's better to just ignore threads that contain any words relating to religion if you know it's something that triggers you- ie. God, heaven, hell, afterlife etc- no matter what section it's in.

That's just my feeling- everyone deserves a voice. We more than likely will say things that upset one another now and again- we're a diverse range of people with very different backgrounds. If it's not said to deliberately incite people though, I feel like it ought to be respected. The OP is clearly worried that- if they CTB- that they might be sent to hell. As I interpreted it, it's a worry specifically about the religious consequences of suicide. Personally, I don't see why it shouldn't be in this section but maybe that's just me.

I wish I could comfort you OP but I just don't know. I feel it more likely there isn't a God- and if there is one, he/she/it probably isn't very nice but, who knows? I would say- most religions tend to align very conveniently with human laws and tend to make for controlling large societies easier. Suicide prevention falls into this bracket- societies need their workers.

I've even heard that the idea of suicide being sinful came directly in response to a social situation. I've looked for this particular YouTube video again so many times but haven't been able to find it- or- much else about this theory on the internet... Anyhow, to summarize: Back in the day- when life was REALLY hard- peasants working in the fields were told that their reward would come in heaven. So- naturally- many started to CTB in order to skip their shitty lives for paradise. This video suggested that the idea of suicide as sinful and punishable came as a response to that- to maintain the workforce. I'm not saying that's factual- I don't know. It's just something I saw once. Still- it makes sense to me.

I'm sorry you do feel like this. I'm not particularly religious but I was brought up with someone who was. They even believed that suicides end up in purgutory/hell. It's a horrible worry to have. Even if it's just a doubt- eternal damnation/hell is one hell of a niggling worry to have! I actually really envy absolute aetheists who don't worry about this element at all.

 

[pillower]

I don't want to suffer anymore. I'm done. I just want peace. If god exists I hope he understands

Bruh, there's no heaven or hell, death is just a long dream

 

[FuneralCry]

I believe religion to just be a fictional concept used to brainwash people, I believe that it was created in the first place as humans were unable to accept the fact that life has no deeper meaning or purpose, the existence of life is only a tragic consequence of evolution but of course the fact that humans were cursed with the ability to be conscious means that the true insignifcant nature of their existence is often too difficult for them to come to terms with. I very strongly believe that once we die we just cease existing as consciousness is stored in the brain and this is why I see death as being the only relief from this hellish and horrible world.

The only thing that I fear is existing, as it truly is something so dreadful being a conscious being in this world. I fear all future suffering as this world is filled with endless potential for harm and torment, all of which death would prevent. I see life in itself as being the true problem which can only be solved by death.

 

[Idon'tknow828]

no you won't go to hell. You will go through karma. But karma isn't bad. It's what you give you get so if you were a bad person you'll experience what you did to other times 10. If you were a good person you'll experience the good things you did for people times 10. But the religion you believe in takes part in what you will experience in death.

 

[CannotAnymore]

Maybe.... No one knows what happens after this. I think it's like sleep just nothingness

 

[MentalStefan]

You didn't specify which god. According to christian mythology every person who died because of suicide goes to hell. Very similar things apply to almost every other religion. I don't think any religion is right.
Most probably after death we enter the state where we had been before we were born. Just nothingness. My grandma used to say "Close your eyes and count to 1. That's how being dead feels like". Mybe it will be eternal, maybe in the distant future people will find out how to resurrect the dead people and e. g. such an advanced civilization will instantly give you a complex treatment and make you perfectly happy. It is very difficult to anticipate potential future discoveries. If it will ever happen then you will feel like you're resurrected instantly after the moment you die, even if it happens in milion years. That's because after death we feel nothing and that includes lack of feeling of passage of time.

 

[niawscm]

If you're worried, by all means don't do it. Think about Pascal's Wager. Life on earth may be awful, but it's finite. Hell, if it exits, is infinite.

 

[Linda]

I don't want to suffer anymore. I'm done. I just want peace. If god exists I hope he understands

Here is my take on this. There is no evidence whatever that god exists. There is no evidence whatever that hell exists. There is no evidence whatever that the Tooth Fairy exists. I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy. So why should I believe in god or hell? Gods were invented by people for their own purposes. One of those purposes is to control and exploit other people.

If you ctb, that will be the end of your existence.

 

[Darkover]

i think this place is hell and that we are already in hell

 

[Source Energy]

God doesn't exist. Hell is a human invention. If anything, this life was hell for ppl like us. Don't worry