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First loss

First loss

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Jan 28, 2019
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People give life too much importance. What is the big fucking deal? We are literally a fucking speck of dust in the universe, totally meaningless and devoid of all point. People need to take life way less seriously. I mean, we are inhabiting a giant rotating ball that is currently charging trough space. We are bound to die off at some point. Yet, there are people that glorify humanity and humans as a whole. We are just really intelligent animals that are currently holding back our natural instincts because of the rules and society that we created ourselves. Fuck this.
 
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Alpha_Draco_Pegasus

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Jun 16, 2019
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What's the big deal about a giant rotating ball? What's the big deal about the universe? What does it have to do with anything?

Life can be as important as you choose for it to be, just as can the universe. To a scientist, the universe is so important to the extent of deserving fascination and awe and a life's research. To a construction worker, who cares. I guess you could say those are "little things" (careers, interests, etc.) that could matter depending on yourself and the role you decide to play in the world, but of course, in the grand scheme of things, how relevant is "meaning" anyway? Science and evolution and all that junk will tell you that the meaning of life is to survive and reproduce. I think that's nonsense. Call me crazy.

So other than yourself choosing a miniscule detail of life to attribute meaning to, I don't see how meaning can mean anything. "Meaning" is what fulfills something for you mentally. If you can not be fulfilled mentally, perhaps you are depressed. Nothing is stimulating enough and nothing is fascinating. I get that.

Humanity is overrated a tad, so I guess I could concede to that. Everything's pretty overrated now that I think about it.

That's just depression. Nothing is fundamentally meaningless or meaningful. It all depends on the situation.

Natural instincts, hmm, I wonder what you mean by that. Can we have unnaturally created something unnatural? I think it's a redundant discussion but it could still go into a few details.
 
Wayfaerer

Wayfaerer

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Aug 21, 2019
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When I first discovered in my youth that nihilism was the only objective truth, I despaired for a short time but recovered quickly, relishing in the meaningless of it all. The meaninglessness of life is not what had brought me to suicide but it does give me piece of mind.

To a scientist, the universe is so important to the extent of deserving fascination and awe and a life's research.

This is why I wanted to live so much. I was actually going to become one and I am only less then two semesters away from graduation but looks like I won't be attending the ceremony after all... Oh well, what good is a degree going to be if I am dead?
 
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oopswronglife

Elementalist
Jun 27, 2019
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Ahh the existential suckage of being alive. As trite as it sounds, unless there really is something greater that we just aren't sure of, can't recognize etc, "the meaning is what you choose it to be". When you zoom out its overwhelming and pointless. We are stardust. When you zoom in at the scale we actually live in you are bothered with inconvenient things like being a meatbag that needs food and water etc. So as long as you are there, even if you know at the end of that speck of life it "doesn't matter", it matters during that life, to those you are good to and help etc. So as long as we are here might as well be good and help. Make the pointless journey less miserable.
 
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Jean Améry

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Mar 17, 2019
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Meaning is not something inherent in the universe (unless there's a god with a divine plan, highly unlikely): we humans create meaning by ascribing value to certain things. It's all in our mind really.

Objectively life is literally meaningless: evolution is not an intelligent process with a fixed plan aiming at some goal. Life just arose and developed in relationship to the environment. Species carry on untill they go extinct (which over 99% did since the beginning of life on earth), animals eat each-other, plants smother each-other: it's all one big mess that mindlessly wanders on untill one day mercifully the earth will be engulfed by the flames of the expanding sun and that whole pain and death producing circus will stop at last.

If one is happy I don't think it matters that life is meaningless. When one isn't it all of a sudden becomes important as if something is needed to justify the suffering. Believers are actually better off this way: at least they can dream there's some meaning and dignity in their suffering. For the rest of us it's chucks, bad luck and hope to die soon.
 
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