Alcohol as a CTB method?

[Rumi]

Most people reading this will probably be skeptical that Alcohol by itself could ever be a painless or even effective CTB method, but I came across this article interviewing George Koob, the Director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse about the potentially fatal effects of alcohol.

According to the Director, '15 standard drinks in two hours' would be sufficient to kill the average American. That is 15 shots of 40% vodka, or 8 5% beers. Obviously, anyone who drinks that much will get sick, but you could just continue drinking afterwards.

If I were to combine 600ml of vodka with a mild sedative and a hot bath, there is no reason to suspect that I would not CTB, right? And if I were to get benzos somehow, it would be guaranteed.

 

[dinosavr]

It's incredibly unreliable, please reconsider this

 

[FujoshiNeet]

Maybe the success rate is higher at lower body weight but it sounds a little too wild that someone can die from 8 beers?

 

[breezeboy]

8 beers? Idk..

 

[SassyGirl52]

That much vodka and you would probably be throwing up. Personally, I wouldn't choose that method.

 

[Umbrella Weather]

The film 'Leaving Las Vegas' did make this seem like a viable option, if not a horrible one. Meanwhile, the author of the screenplay did kill himself before the film won its Oscar.

 

[Rumi]

8 beers? Idk..

He looks like a pretty buff guy, and fairly tall too.

Obviously, it depends on your height, weight, sex, and on how often you drink, but I think 8-10 beers could do it for a slight man or average woman who doesn't drink regularly.

There is a calculator that tells you what your blood alcohol-content will be if you drink a given number of drinks. For the average man who doesn't drink regularly., it says that 10 500ml 5% beers would result in a 'low possibility' of death, whereas as 12-14 would result in coma and possibility of death. The Director's recommendation was probably conservatives given that it's his job to prevent alcohol-related deaths, but he still made a good point, which is that it just doesn't take as much as you'd think to die from alcohol alone, and if you combine it with drugs your only increasing your chances.

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

thats a very unreliable method. Please reconsider.

 

[Rumi]

The film 'Leaving Las Vegas' did make this seem like a viable option, if not a horrible one. Meanwhile, the author of the screenplay did kill himself before the film won its Oscar.

I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what the death looked like. Ultimately, an alcohol OD kills you by suppressing your urge to breath, which in itself isn't painless, but obviously getting to that point of drunkenness would be fairly painful.

My idea is to just drink to the point where I lose consciousness while submerged in water.

 

[wildbluekiss]

this is unreliable, please do reconsider! if you failed, it would be hurt very, very much!

 

[Argo]

If I were to combine 600ml of vodka with a mild sedative and a hot bath, there is no reason to suspect that I would not CTB, right?

It really depends on the sedative to do the heavy lifting there more than anything. One would need a strong sedative, to think theres "no reason to suspect" they would not ctb. Even then, it's not guaranteed. This is why alcohol is just not the first choice for a good substance to die with. It can help other substances which are, though, but it's not a good choice as a main substance.

 

[tewakis]

Most people reading this will probably be skeptical that Alcohol by itself could ever be a painless or even effective CTB method, but I came across this article interviewing George Koob, the Director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse about the potentially fatal effects of alcohol.

According to the Director, '15 standard drinks in two hours' would be sufficient to kill the average American. That is 15 shots of 40% vodka, or 8 5% beers. Obviously, anyone who drinks that much will get sick, but you could just continue drinking afterwards.

If I were to combine 600ml of vodka with a mild sedative and a hot bath, there is no reason to suspect that I would not CTB, right? And if I were to get benzos somehow, it would be guaranteed.

If anything, it will give you future problems, since the liver is unable to process all of the alcohol at once. After it is sorted and broken down, the alcohol turns into vinegar, and that'll be a pretty good perspective on how detrimental that might be…
You'll get intoxication poisoning and throw up, or extricate it some other way. This might result in death if bad enough, and I mean constantly puking, diarrhea, or other loss of fluids. (Hypovolemic shock). And worst comes to worst you'll just need a sodium bicarbonate solution delivered intravenously.
So.. no.. I don't think necessarily you could CTB…

 

[ScubaCTB]

According to the Director, '15 standard drinks in two hours' would be sufficient to kill the average American. That is 15 shots of 40% vodka, or 8 5% beers.

I don't think that's accurate. I've drank 3+ bottles of wine everyday since the new year. I look and feel terrible because it doesn't matter anymore. But I'm still here. Usually I pass out after 2.5 bottles, then wake up, drink a few bottles of water because I'm dehydrated, then start right back up. I've been a true alcoholic for a month almost.

15 shots of vodka in two hours is way more alcohol than 8 normal beers in two hours. Wine is 12-15% alcohol and there are 5 "glasses" of wine per bottle. So basically I've been drinking 12+ glasses of wine daily and usually really fast, for a month. I think if alcohol could kill you that easily, I'd be dead.

 

[soleil]

Obviously, anyone who drinks that much will get sick, but you could just continue drinking afterwards.

Have you ever over drank before? Dry heaving bile can come after getting rid of it all, and you won't want to drink or eat anything for awhile.

 

[Thanksforeverything]

And if I were to get benzos somehow, it would be guaranteed.

Nothing about this method is guaranteed. If only it was this easy. Everyone's body reacts differently to toxins, and yes, alcohol is a toxin; but as an incredibly underweight person, I can tell you from anecdotal experience that 15 shots within 2 hours is a regular Saturday for me. I have also had a lot of experience with using all kinds of benzos and while I've blacked out from some of them, I was not even close to dying.

This, as a method would be highly unreliable as everyone else has pointed out already. Reconsider and research.

 

[Abyssal]

Unreliable and probably pretty awful way to go. There's a reason you don't see a megathread for depressant ctb on here. I advise against this.

 

[struggles_inc]

15 vodka shots is an average party for one person. Absolutely unreliable.
It would only kill you slowly if you drank these shots every day on a yearly basis. And maybe after 15 years your liver would start to fail. So no, that has to be bogus.
There is such a thing as alcoholic coma. Children and severe alcoholics are prone to that state. Kind of a brain shock after having too much alcohol, more than one's body can handle.
As an alcoholic in recovery I can reassure you that it is extremely hard to reach that state even if you are immune to drinking and can handle more than average without puking.

 

[Rumi]

I don't think that's accurate. I've drank 3+ bottles of wine everyday since the new year. I look and feel terrible because it doesn't matter anymore. But I'm still here. Usually I pass out after 2.5 bottles, then wake up, drink a few bottles of water because I'm dehydrated, then start right back up. I've been a true alcoholic for a month almost.

15 shots of vodka in two hours is way more alcohol than 8 normal beers in two hours. Wine is 12-15% alcohol and there are 5 "glasses" of wine per bottle. So basically I've been drinking 12+ glasses of wine daily and usually really fast, for a month. I think if alcohol could kill you that easily, I'd be dead.

Yeah, I was mistaken about the beer. You would probably need at least 14, and with that much liquid it would be impossible not to throw up.

Unreliable and probably pretty awful way to go. There's a reason you don't see a megathread for depressant ctb on here. I advise against this.

Yeah, I'm not recommending this for anyone, it's just something I'm personally thinking about.

It may be unreliable, but it's not impossible. In this study, the average BAC in 175 fatal cases of alcohol poisoning was .35%, or 9 5% beers.

15 vodka shots is an average party for one person. Absolutely unreliable.
It would only kill you slowly if you drank these shots every day on a yearly basis. And maybe after 15 years your liver would start to fail. So no, that has to be bogus.
There is such a thing as alcoholic coma. Children and severe alcoholics are prone to that state. Kind of a brain shock after having too much alcohol, more than one's body can handle.
As an alcoholic in recovery I can reassure you that it is extremely hard to reach that state even if you are immune to drinking and can handle more than average without puking.

You build up tolerance if you drink regularly. Obviously someone who drinks every day isn't going to die from 15 shots, but if you're someone who never or rarely drinks, 15 standard 44ml shots would put you over the average BAC content found at post-mortem in this study. There is also this case study in which a 19-year-old man died after drinking 500ml of spirits and one 8% beer.

 

[notori]

I wouldn't recommend it. I've almost died from alcohol poisoning before, it wasn't supposed to be a CTB attempt but I was having a manic episode and was just taking so much stuff and drinking everything I could find, which was almost an entire bottle of fireball, an entire bottle of wine, and some other stuff I don't even remember but it was a lot.. I passed out on my back at some point and got really really sick, didn't go to the hospital or anything but it was genuinely one of the most miserable states I have ever been in. I don't use substances heavily and I don't weight a lot, I also take a lot of medication in general so that could have contributed to that situation. But yeah what everyone else is saying, it's extremely unreliable and you'll probably just get very sick. but I wish you the best and I hope you can move on peacefully <3

 

[Rumi]

I wouldn't recommend it. I've almost died from alcohol poisoning before, it wasn't supposed to be a CTB attempt but I was having a manic episode and was just taking so much stuff and drinking everything I could find, which was almost an entire bottle of fireball, an entire bottle of wine, and some other stuff I don't even remember but it was a lot.. I passed out on my back at some point and got really really sick, didn't go to the hospital or anything but it was genuinely one of the most miserable states I have ever been in. I don't use substances heavily and I don't weight a lot, I also take a lot of medication in general so that could have contributed to that situation. But yeah what everyone else is saying, it's extremely unreliable and you'll probably just get very sick. but I wish you the best and I hope you can move on peacefully <3

That sounds horrible, sorry to hear you went through that. I think the trick to this method is to combine alcohol with a sedative and a late-swim in winter. Alcohol by itself probably won't work.