After SN--Will the police search my phone and stuff?

[0dysseus]

Will they? Has that happened to people who CTB'ed on that we know of? Media reports? News reports?

 

[RinneOfAragon]

factory reset your phone maybe?

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Your phone should be encrypted. Turn of any biometrics (FaceID, fingerprint etc) Don't use a PIN, Use a password. Also, Most phones encrypt the data if you turn off the phone

 

[unluckysadness]

They must conduct an investigation, so they will probably look into your computer and phone. But I'm not sure if they will talk about it in medias. We're not VIPs...

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

They must conduct an investigation, so they will probably look into your computer and phone. But I'm not sure if they will talk about it in medias. We're not VIPs...

Windows computers have BitLocker. If you save the BitLocker key as a paper copy that no one will find it (such as in a password manager), they will not be able to access your data. However, if you save the BitLocker key to your Microsoft account, then Microsoft can provide the unlock key (most likely with a court order)

 

[Forveleth]

See this thread for more info

Law Enforcement Investigation of Suicides (graphic/crude language warning)

Hey there kiddos, this is your favorite ex cop/current convict COP2CON. Todays lesson is about what happens when you die from suicide from a law enforcement stand point. I dealt with many of these calls and have extensive experience. While I was patrol, because we were short I got to do a lot of...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[0dysseus]

They must conduct an investigation, so they will probably look into your computer and phone. But I'm not sure if they will talk about it in medias. We're not VIPs...

But it'll be like the first suicide attempt with SN here

factory reset your phone maybe?

For someone who isn't sure he's going to succeed (SI and all) the first time? It's problematic


It's too harsh for me to read, it really is.
Can some td:lr only the things I should do to keep my privacy of my lap top and phone

See this thread for more info

Law Enforcement Investigation of Suicides (graphic/crude language warning)

Hey there kiddos, this is your favorite ex cop/current convict COP2CON. Todays lesson is about what happens when you die from suicide from a law enforcement stand point. I dealt with many of these calls and have extensive experience. While I was patrol, because we were short I got to do a lot of...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

But it'll be like the first suicide attempt with SN here

For someone who isn't sure he's going to succeed the first time? It's problematic

From every "goodbye thread" that I've read here since November (involving SN) I will tell you that those who seemed unsure if they'd succeed did not succeed, while those who planned to succeed seemingly did. I could usually tell by what they wrote if they were going to be back the next day to say they had failed. So I ask, you have a reliable method… what exactly has you so unsure of success?

 

[0dysseus]

From every "goodbye thread" that I've read here since November (involving SN) I will tell you that those who seemed unsure if they'd succeed did not succeed, while those who planned to succeed seemingly did. I could usually tell by what they wrote if they were going to be back the next day to say they had failed. So I ask, you have a reliable method… what exactly has you so unsure of success?

No I meant in terms of the SI.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

No I meant in terms of the SI.

Ah, yes, from the threads I read, there was a strong relationship between the two. I'd say do not drink the SN if you don't feel ready. And yes, a factory reset may not be practical.

 

[0dysseus]

Your phone should be encrypted. Turn of any biometrics (FaceID, fingerprint etc) Don't use a PIN, Use a password. Also, Most phones encrypt the data if you turn off the phone

What else. I got a phone, Ipad and laptop. Thanks.

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

What else. I got a phone, Ipad and laptop. Thanks.

First and foremost, change your sign for your iPad and iPhone so that the login method is password only. No FaceID or thumbprint. Additionally, turning off your iPad/iPhone will encrypt the data so they can't access it.

For your laptop, set a password instead of a PIN. You should also enable BitLocker, and print the recovery key. DO NOT save the recovery key to your Microsoft account, as Microsoft could technically provide the encryption if they have a warrant.

 

[bb142342]

I don't mean this in a bad way, but do you really think the authorities would go to such lengths?

If a GP didn't feel comfortable certifying it and instead listed the cause as "natural," and the authorities actually stepped in and identified the substance...

Wouldn't it just end up with the report simply stating "suicide"?

After all, they know perfectly well that people can get all sorts of things from a wide range of sources and countries.

Why would they go to the trouble of launching an investigation like that over a substance from the food industry?

 

[0dysseus]

First and foremost, change your sign for your iPad and iPhone so that the login method is password only. No FaceID or thumbprint. Additionally, turning off your iPad/iPhone will encrypt the data so they can't access it.

For your laptop, set a password instead of a PIN. You should also enable BitLocker, and print the recovery key. DO NOT save the recovery key to your Microsoft account, as Microsoft could technically provide the encryption if they have a warrant.

It's an android, does it change things?

I don't mean this in a bad way, but do you really think the authorities would go to such lengths?

If a GP didn't feel comfortable certifying it and instead listed the cause as "natural," and the authorities actually stepped in and identified the substance...

Wouldn't it just end up with the report simply stating "suicide"?

After all, they know perfectly well that people can get all sorts of things from a wide range of sources and countries.

Why would they go to the trouble of launching an investigation like that over a substance from the food industry?

Amm okay so you're asking me a question on my post, which in itself a qustion of that same thing.

I don't know if they would go to these lenghts, by the answers of the people here it seems they will so....

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

It's an android, does it change things?

No. The data becomes encrypted once turned off

 

[0dysseus]

No. The data becomes encrypted once turned off

Okay thank you but wdym by that? They could just turn on the phone, I dont quite get it.

They must conduct an investigation, so they will probably look into your computer and phone. But I'm not sure if they will talk about it in medias. We're not VIPs...

Is there a megathread guide or something of how to delete permanently things that you find private? Plus the WhatsApp and Gmail communications with the SN provider and such.

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Okay thank you but wdym by that? They could just turn on the phone, I dont quite get it.

Is there a megathread guide or something of how to delete permanently things that you find private? Plus the WhatsApp and Gmail communications with the SN provider and such.

You can try it now if you want. If you turn off your phone, you have to enter your password to decrypt the data on the phone.

If you turn off your phone, and they don't know your password, even if they pull apart your phone and take out the hard drive, it will be all encrypted (i.e. absolutely useless for them to see what data is inside).

Basically, when your phone is turned off, all the data becomes encrypted. Once you turn on your phone and enter your phone password, the data on your phone becomes decrypted, which means that *hypothetically*, they could get access to your data.

You don't have to do anything special to protect your data besides turning off your phone. Just make sure no one else knows your password

 

[0dysseus]

You can try it now if you want. If you turn off your phone, you have to enter your password to decrypt the data on the phone.

If you turn off your phone, and they don't know your password, even if they pull apart your phone and take out the hard drive, it will be all encrypted (i.e. absolutely useless for them to see what data is inside).

Basically, when your phone is turned off, all the data becomes encrypted. Once you turn on your phone and enter your phone password, the data on your phone becomes decrypted, which means that *hypothetically*, they could get access to your data.

You don't have to do anything special to protect your data besides turning off your phone. Just make sure no one else knows your password

Cool but what about Whatsapp, and Gmail and telegram. I have communications there regarding the SN. Would they be able via a court order to search the cloud back up of any of these, thatbis to search not necessarily from my device.

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Cool but what about Whatsapp, and Gmail and telegram. I have communications there regarding the SN. Would they be able via a court order to search the cloud back up of any of these, thatbis to search not necessarily from my device.

Whatsapp and Telegram are encrypted by design. So they can't technically see the message you sent. For example, I'll try and illustrate a diagram. This is a message you sent to a contact called John Smith:

WhatsApp
0dysseus sends message > The weather is great today! > John Smith receives message

The message sent through the WhatsApp servers are encrypted, meaning that no one can actually see the message while it is being sent from one user to another. HOWEVER, if the someone were to go through John Smith's WhatsApp (or Telegram), they would see that you sent that message.

For Gmail, that is a bit different. Google would potentially have to provide the authorities with your Gmail account if they had a warrant. They don't need access to your phone or computer for that. And deleting any emails wouldn't make a difference unfortunately. That being said, the effort to and try and obtain a warrant would probably not be worth the effort if they don't suspect you of a crime.

I hope that makes sense

I'm going through the process of encrypting my data as well, so I'm happy to answer any other questions!

 

[0dysseus]

Whatsapp and Telegram are encrypted by design. So they can't technically see the message you sent. For example, I'll try and illustrate a diagram. This is a message you sent to a contact called John Smith:

WhatsApp
0dysseus sends message > The weather is great today! > John Smith receives message

The message sent through the WhatsApp servers are encrypted, meaning that no one can actually see the message while it is being sent from one user to another. HOWEVER, if the someone were to go through John Smith's WhatsApp (or Telegram), they would see that you sent that message.

For Gmail, that is a bit different. Google would potentially have to provide the authorities with your Gmail account if they had a warrant. They don't need access to your phone or computer for that. And deleting any emails wouldn't make a difference unfortunately. That being said, the effort to and try and obtain a warrant would probably not be worth the effort if they don't suspect you of a crime.

I hope that makes sense

I'm going through the process of encrypting my data as well, so I'm happy to answer any other questions!

Thank you so much you have been so helpful. Why are encrypting your data if I may ask, are you planning to CTB?

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Thank you so much you have been so helpful. Why are encrypting your data if I may ask, are you planning to CTB?

Yeah I'm planning on ctb soon. Got my method all ready to go. Just gotta work up the courage

I don't have anything to hide really. But I just don't feel comfortable with anyone going through my electronics after I'm gone. That's why I've encrypted or locked all my devices. Also, I work in IT, so I'm always paranoid about security lmao.

 

[0dysseus]

Yeah I'm planning on ctb soon. Got my method all ready to go. Just gotta work up the courage

I don't have anything to hide really. But I just don't feel comfortable with anyone going through my electronics after I'm gone. That's why I've encrypted or locked all my devices. Also, I work in IT, so I'm always paranoid about security lmao.

Oh wow I see. But you say that for the average joe, besides Gmail and Google Drive, a password and turning off the phone would be enough.