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I keep posting on here asking people if they've ever heard of someone becoming a vegetable from nitrogen hypoxia. no one has ever heard of it in all their research, and they point out that if there had been a case like this, it would be blown up by pro lifers in the media
Just because it hasn't been mentioned doesn't mean it's not possible. Of course it's possible. The brain is not like a switch where you're absolutely fine and the next second you're dead. Cells start dying off and it's a process and from what I understand the frontal lobes/cortex goes first and the vital functions like breathing, heart beat etc goes last. So yes. If your bag was removed or enough oxygen got in while some of your brain cells had died but not others you'd end up with brain damage. So yes, it's definitely possible. Whether it has actually happened is another matter.
I believe the question here is... presuming one uses nitrogen and fails, how likely would that person get brain damage?
I don't think it matters if it was accidental or on purpose...if you see someone is basically brain damaged to a large extent why keep them alive? I know that sounds cruel but I think most people would not want to live like this if they had a choice. I've made it clear to people close to me that under no circumstances am I ok with living with brain damage whatever the cause may be and to not keep me alive under any circumstances.
I agree 100% - that guy is basically in a living hell every moment he is conscious. The problem is, many people can be resuscitated from an od with minimal or no lasting effects. In this particular case, I don't think the response was wrong - he (probably) wasn't suicidal, just someone looking to party. It may not even have been his fault - if he was used to taking a certain amount of H, and this time it was cut with more F than usual or just higher purity, he may have thought he was bring safe and just getting high as normal.
I'm curious - since SN increases/widens the blood vessels in the brain, which is likely why you would get a headache from SN, the same mechanism which causes my migraines, I wonder if instead of taking ibuprofen as the pain med with it I could use Sumatriptan (Imitrex)? Sumatriptan constricts the blood vessels so would this be counterintuitive to the process? Wouldn't ibuprofen also be constricting/reducing inflammation of the blood vessels?There can be only one , SN. The only method i haven't seen any brain damage in survivors , SN.
Just one mechanism how SN prevents brain damage is because SN causes extreme vasodilation of blood vessels in the brain .
He wasn't suicidal, unless I'm missing something. I think it was an honest od - partied too hard.
If you are rescued at just the right time there must be some risk of brain damage from Sn, but in practice it seems to never happen; it must be a small window of time.
Oh shoot, my bad. You're right. Still, making somebody a vegetable is terrifying
I never understand why people who go for OD CTB don't combine it with something else like partial, bag over head or just doing in the tub in the hopes of drowning. Like that would be my first plan. Actually my plan is already to combine at least two methods.
When you od with an opioid IV (with the intention of dying), you usually only have seconds until you're unconscious. People who od on pure F are usually found with the syringe still in their arms because it hits so fast and hard. Done right, you don't need a backup when mainlining opioids. But that is the only good option - trying to od with pills or patches is foolish and risky when there is a guaranteed method. If you want to go the oral route, N or SN are much better options.
