What if CTBing causes endless suffering forever? What if on the other side of this I find myself all alone and terrified in an empty abyss forever?
migimortis
Love It Or Waste It.
- Jan 15, 2024
- 149
Death is scary, but there is peace in it's inevitability. In that regard there is nothing to fear, the sun must set. I'd be more concerned about failing and having your face half blown off like that one guy in that vid.
sulokanai_
someone wanting to change their destiny.
- Jan 9, 2024
- 7
I've also stopped to think about this a few times, and I still do. It's very bad to think that the best way to get rid of pain can cause even more suffering. I just try to avoid thinking that way and think that it will actually just be sleeping aimlessly towards the end.
There is no consciousness in death. Subjectively, time will skip forward until a consciousness is formed.
Because i woke up feeling such terror and aloneness and it got me wondering what if in death I'll feel like this forever?
I see. Wasn't that terror and aloneness is in the context of living?
pepe_felipe
Member
- Jan 15, 2024
- 33
Personally I just imagine death to be complete and utter nothingness. Picturing a black screen with nothing else to stimulate you would be the closest thing to what I envision to be "The afterlife", because there would be no concept of light or dark. Nothing. This could be scary, but I find piece in knowing there is absolutely NOTHING once I CTB.
I will risk the uncertainty of a torturous afterlife over the reality of my current, painful existence.
Although I don't believe in anything after death. We simply are no more.
Although I don't believe in anything after death. We simply are no more.
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Yes that's true but I imagined the abyss that I might get trapped in in death and it scared me. But you're right, I was alive but it's hard to imagine what it would be like to not be alive so I project my experiences now to death.
What makes you think any of us are 'good enough' for an alternative if we don't CTB?
Don't get me wrong. I understand the reasoning and the fear but, should we even assume we're getting in to heaven after a natural death? I don't know. Maybe you've lived a faultless, pious life. I don't think I've lived a terrible life but I'm pretty sure I've already done enough to piss God off (if there is one) to send me to hell. God must know I don't like them for a start! I guess CTB would be the cherry on the cake.
Still- I guess- if it worries you that much, you have a few choices. Try and rid yourself of the belief. Do it and suffer the consequences or, don't do it and wait for your 'reward'.
I guess though- put it this way. How much do you 'suffer' in a dream? Maybe you feel emotions but- do you feel physical pain when you walk into fire or trip over? Probably not because- your physical body isn't doing those things. You're just imagining doing those things. How would you feel pain if you didn't have a physical body? We know our bodies stay here when we die. I don't think we even experience time the same in a dream. So- in a way- dreaming feels like the closest physical thing to death in a way. A form of consciousness without the interaction of a body. If even that survives after death- I'm doubtful myself.
For the whole heaven and hell theories to work (for me) they must have shit loads of cloned bodies of us some place neutral, growing up without souls. Then, when we die and our body is destroyed on this earth, we are judged, our soul inserted into our duplicate bodies and we are sent on to heaven, hell, purgatory- whatever. Otherwise, how will we feel the pain of the hell fire? How will we recognise our loved ones in heaven? To experience life in a way we can even comprehend, surely- we would need a brain, consciousness and a body? If we don't have those components- we have no comprehension on what existence would feel like. The likelihood of the above scenario seems ridiculous to me so, I can only guess that- if there is an afterlife, it won't be like this life. We won't have biological bodies that die for a start- if it's eternity.
Personally, I think our consciousness lives and dies with our brain. It's surely dependant on the brain. We aren't fully developed personalities when we are born. Surely- it grows with the brain. Personally- I don't see it as some mystical thing that floats in to us when we are an infant and floats out at the end. I guess I'm not a complete cynic. Certain things still puzzle and worry me but I definitely don't believe in any religion whole heartedly.
Don't get me wrong. I understand the reasoning and the fear but, should we even assume we're getting in to heaven after a natural death? I don't know. Maybe you've lived a faultless, pious life. I don't think I've lived a terrible life but I'm pretty sure I've already done enough to piss God off (if there is one) to send me to hell. God must know I don't like them for a start! I guess CTB would be the cherry on the cake.
Still- I guess- if it worries you that much, you have a few choices. Try and rid yourself of the belief. Do it and suffer the consequences or, don't do it and wait for your 'reward'.
I guess though- put it this way. How much do you 'suffer' in a dream? Maybe you feel emotions but- do you feel physical pain when you walk into fire or trip over? Probably not because- your physical body isn't doing those things. You're just imagining doing those things. How would you feel pain if you didn't have a physical body? We know our bodies stay here when we die. I don't think we even experience time the same in a dream. So- in a way- dreaming feels like the closest physical thing to death in a way. A form of consciousness without the interaction of a body. If even that survives after death- I'm doubtful myself.
For the whole heaven and hell theories to work (for me) they must have shit loads of cloned bodies of us some place neutral, growing up without souls. Then, when we die and our body is destroyed on this earth, we are judged, our soul inserted into our duplicate bodies and we are sent on to heaven, hell, purgatory- whatever. Otherwise, how will we feel the pain of the hell fire? How will we recognise our loved ones in heaven? To experience life in a way we can even comprehend, surely- we would need a brain, consciousness and a body? If we don't have those components- we have no comprehension on what existence would feel like. The likelihood of the above scenario seems ridiculous to me so, I can only guess that- if there is an afterlife, it won't be like this life. We won't have biological bodies that die for a start- if it's eternity.
Personally, I think our consciousness lives and dies with our brain. It's surely dependant on the brain. We aren't fully developed personalities when we are born. Surely- it grows with the brain. Personally- I don't see it as some mystical thing that floats in to us when we are an infant and floats out at the end. I guess I'm not a complete cynic. Certain things still puzzle and worry me but I definitely don't believe in any religion whole heartedly.
penguinl0v3s
Wait for Me đź’™
- Nov 1, 2023
- 798
It's just a risk you have to accept if you choose to ctb. The afterlife can be anything.
FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
- 38,945
In my case I very strongly believe that once we die, that it for us, we are gone. Death is simply the absence of everything, it's nothing more than an dreamless and eternal sleep which is why I'm comforted by the thought of no longer existing. I only fear this hellish existence where there is no limit as to how much we can suffer, for me death means peace.
Well there is only one way to find out right?....
No one really knows what will happen with certainty right? So why torture your self with the alternatives that terrify you? Why not just stick to the alternatives that give you a peace of mind?
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