A question to those with girlfriends or boyfriends why don't you just ask to partner up for a suicide pact

[Blondi]

Seriously , If I had a girlfriend, I would pester her Non-Stop until she agreed to a pact or left me.

 

[Odwin]

Forcing someone to suicide? You should think about what you just wrote.

 

[Blondi]

Forcing someone to suicide? You should think about what you just wrote.

Ask*

 

[Odwin]

Ask*

You would pester non-stop. Your own words.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Wouldn't ctb if I did tbh.

 

[WornOutLife]

Nah, I don't want to ask or persuade anyone to ctb.

No matter how much I love her, if she's not suicidal I'll just wish she has a great life with or without me.

 

[HopelessFight]

Because if you have a girlfriend and you pester her non-stop, you're abusing her.

 

[Blondi]

Nah, I don't want to ask or convince anyone to ctb.

No matter how much I love her, if she's not suicidal I'll just wish she has a great life with or without me.

If you don't even ask how can you know if she's even suicidal?

Because if you have a girlfriend and you pester her non-stop, you're abusing her.

No, because she can just say f**k off.

You would pester non-stop. Your own words.

Until she says total yes or total no.

Wouldn't ctb if I did tbh.

Brutal ngl

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

if i loved someone i would want the best for them, not to bring them down with me. if someone is not suicidal why try to make them that way? that's just cruel and weird

 

[UseItOrLoseIt]

Seriously , If I had a girlfriend, I would pester her Non-Stop until she agreed to a pact or left me.

The only thing CTBing in this scenario would be your relationship.

 

[HopelessFight]

Because if you have a girlfriend and you pester her non-stop, you're abusing her.

No, because she can just say f**k off.

This is just disgusting, really.

 

[WornOutLife]

If you don't even ask how can you know if she's even suicidal?

I meant that I wouldn't ask her if she wants to ctb with me.

I talked a lot about suicide with my ex gf. She was not suicidal but always respected my point of view of life even though she was very sad about the fact I might leave this world someday.

Now, if I got a new gf and she was suicidal, we might talk about a ctb date but nobody will force anyone to ctb with them.

 

[Water-Lily]

I don't have a boyfriend or girlfriend so I am not qualified to answer. However, I hope it would not be annoying of me to bring forth my thoughts on this matter in the form of a hypothetical. If I were to commit suicide (I know I will at this point) I want it to be my own. Though my reasons for suicide are controversial (revenge and pity based due to nobody giving a shit about me) I don't want to bring another person into that. Just because I want to end my life does not mean theirs should be taken away due to my selfishness. I would want them to live the best life possible, My suicide will be for me to do on my own only.

 

[nofutureghost]

I hate my life but I still know the price of having one, I would never ask someone such a shitty thing, if u truly love someone u wish them the best and the chance to be happy, even though I want to die I recognize how precious life is, if I can't find happiness n peace I truly hope he can

 

[Blondi]

if i loved someone i would want the best for them, not to bring them down with me. if someone is not suicidal why try to make them that way? that's just cruel and weird

You are sparing that person from dying alone in a nursing home.

This is just disgusting, really.

Please elaborate

The only thing CTBing in this scenario would be your relationship.

What if she's an antinatalist ;)

I hate my life but I still know the price of having one, I would never ask someone such a shitty thing, if u truly love someone u wish them the best and the chance to be happy, even though I want to die I recognize how precious life is, if I can't find happiness n peace I truly hope he can

Again, having your last moments with your loving partner >>> nursing home

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

You are sparing that person from dying alone in a nursing home.

Please elaborate

What if she's an antinatalist ;)

Again, having your last moments with your loving partner >>> nursing home

they might have a chance of having a great life, maybe they will fall in love,marry and spend the rest of their lives at home with loved ones.. you do seem to have an interesting thought process

 

[Carrotcake]

Well, my boyfriend has this thing called a will to live. I'm not familiar with it but I respect his opinions and views on life. I am the sick one, not him. I wish he has a beautiful life. In my opinion that is a life without me, he disagrees. I have learnt that I can't decide that for him.

 

[Symbiote]

How to lose a guy/girl in 7 days! This guy knows how to do it, and now so can you! /s

Suicide is a personal thing, no need to get others involved unless they are willing. You can't force them to die with you, this is how murder-suicides happen

 

[SadJessu]

Only if they were terminal and had the desire. Otherwise it would be abusive.

 

[AnnonyBox]

Seriously , If I had a girlfriend, I would pester her Non-Stop until she agreed to a pact or left me.

Every day someone finds another way to deepen my misanthropy. Have you no empathy? Disgusting.

 

[Odwin]

You should get a girl that non-stop pester you to not commit suicide.

 

[Blondi]

they might have a chance of having a great life, maybe they will fall in love,marry and spend the rest of their lives at home with loved ones.. you do seem to have an interesting thought process

Sure, but there is also is a 50 % chance of a divorce and 100 % chance (unless they die first) of witnessing their loved ones die . Also, thanks for the slight compliment.

Well, my boyfriend has this thing called a will to live. I'm not familiar with it but I respect his opinions and views on life. I am the sick one, not him. I wish he has a beautiful life. In my opinion that is a life without me, he disagrees. I have learnt that I can't decide that for him.

Cope , suicidal Chad gf > virgin pro-life bf

How to lose a guy/girl in 7 days! This guy knows how to do it, and now so can you! /s

Suicide is a personal thing, no need to get others involved unless they are willing. You can't force them to die with you, this is how murder-suicides happen

I agree.

Every day someone finds another way to deepen my misanthropy. Have you no empathy? Disgusting.

Me actually telling about my suicide plans and allowing the person who potentially loves me join me or leave me is actually the moral thing to do because
a) You give him/her chance to do it with you
b) If they leave you they will not feel that bad for your death

You should get a girl that non-stop pester you to not commit suicide.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Odwin]

All I can read you just wanna have a suicidal gf that understands your pain. Look for one. Don't create one.

 

[Ame]

Very early on, we expressed our preference for dying in a controlled manner when we reached an advanced age (the late 80s~the 90s) where it was clear that our quality of life and autonomy were about to take a sharp nosedive. It was never something that we agreed to do together and it is possible that when we reached that point, our opinions might have changed. This is not the same thing however. Despite our struggles with mental illness and suicidality, I would have never asked him to enter a "suicide pact" with me. Regardless of whether or not it was with me, I wanted nothing more than for him to be able to recover and happily live out a full life. I would have wanted to go on my own and for him to be happy and well. I wanted this so much that it hurts to write.

Of course, I realise that my saying this is hypocritical, because if there was really no way to pull him back from the ledge and save him, I wished so much that he would have allowed me to die with him when he decided to kill himself. I know that it is cruel and that a lot of what I am saying comes from a place of grief. I don't think that he would have wanted me to die either...actually, if I were to trust my heart, I know that he would have wanted me to live. I don't know. I don't know. I should have been better.

 

[LastLoveLetter]

Suicide is your choice. You have no right to force that same decision upon other people. None of us do. Why would you even want to? If someone wants to keep living and is able to find joy in life, the last thing I'd ever want to do is rob them of that. Just because I'm suicidal doesn't mean I need to take other people with me.

 

[lofticries]

No, op. That is emotional abuse. Never okay under any circumstances.

You should get a girl that non-stop pester you to not commit suicide.

Someone got the opposite....

 

[Odwin]

No, op. That is emotional abuse. Never okay under any circumstances.

Someone got the opposite....

OH yeah I know her. Well OP is quite different he wants to die with her. Not like this specimen.

 

[noname223]

I can only agree on the opinion that it is horrible to persuade someone into suicide who does not want it. I mean WTF

 

[LastLoveLetter]

I have a boyfriend and honestly, the thought of asking him to kill himself because I want to die is just unfathomable. It fills me with pure disgust. It's a repulsive, narcissistic thing to do.

Suicide is a choice, and a very personal one. I've never subscribed to the public opinion that it's selfish or wrong, because it's our lives. We should have the freedom to continue with them or end them as we wish. I always found the concept of asking people to live for the sole sake of other people or for society warped - and they twist it to suit their own narrative: "Suicide is wrong/selfish/cowardly." The reality is, suicide is none of those things. But it makes people uncomfortable.

However, what is disgracefully selfish to me is to want others to take their lives because we no longer want our own. To be willing to pester them and pressure them to die, just so that we have someone to die with. It's abusive. It's cruel. And it's disgusting.

My boyfriend is not suicidal. It is because of my love and respect for him that I want him to remain that way and live a fulfilling life, not make him miserable, guilt trip him and drag him down with me. The sad thing is, if I asked him to, he possibly would consider it for my sake. The difference is I'd never want him to. What a waste of a kind, loving soul that would be - to attempt to force someone who actually wants their life, to die with me.

 

[Blondi]

I can only agree on the opinion that it is horrible to persuade someone into suicide who does not want it. I mean WTF

Why its horrible to give rational arguments?

Suicide is a choice, and a very personal one. I've never subscribed to the public opinion that it's selfish or wrong, because it's our lives. We should have the freedom to continue with them or end them as we wish. I always found the concept of asking people to live for the sole sake of other people or for society warped - and they twist it to suit their own narrative: "Suicide is wrong/selfish/cowardly." The reality is, suicide is none of those things. But it makes people uncomfortable.

Agree.

However, what is disgracefully selfish to me is to want others to take their lives because we no longer want our own. To be willing to pester them and pressure them to die, just so that we have someone to die with. It's abusive. It's cruel. And it's disgusting.

Disagree because that would imply that suicide is immoral or mostly immoral. By forcing them to have a discussion and not letting them to weasel out your are saving lots of suffering and a horrific death. I would argue its evil not to prevent such horrible fate if you can .

I want him to remain that way and live a fulfilling life, not make him miserable, guilt trip him and drag him down with me.

No human is immune to old age and its ailments. Almost all old people are lonely and suffering .