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It will take days or weeks, but once ingested, death is assured. Even pain and suffering, but there is no salvation. It is impossible to survive the 210 (210Po) isotope of Polonium. Further proof that there are methods with 100% guaranteed lethality, not only with Nembutal. 00 polonio
The lethal dose is much less than one gram.
 
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it's not just about lethality, friend. A LOT of things are theoretically lethal when ingested. it's about what the body goes through in order to die, how long it takes, how it acts in the body to cause death, accessibility and other things like price. I respect anyone doing this kind of research but just know there are about a dozen more things to consider aside from whether or not it's deadly.
 
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Further proof that there are methods with 100% guaranteed lethality, not only with Nembutal.
I'm pretty sure this isn't gonna be peaceful and relatively painless. I prefer not to suffer for several days or weeks but that's just my opinion.

Other question: How easy is it to get hands on Po(210) ?
 
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it's not just about lethality, friend. A LOT of things are theoretically lethal when ingested. it's about what the body goes through in order to die, how long it takes, how it acts in the body to cause death, accessibility and other things like price. I respect anyone doing this kind of research but just know there are about a dozen more things to consider aside from whether or not it's deadly.
Here you are wrong. Instead we only talk about lethality. When you write "all methods can fail", you are talking only and exclusively about lethality. And it's a lie, because there are foolproof methods. No, it's not peaceful and it's not cheap. This, however, is another topic.
 
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Here you are wrong. Instead we only talk about lethality. When you write "all methods can fail", you are talking only and exclusively about lethality. And it's a lie, because there are foolproof methods. No, it's not peaceful and it's not cheap. This, however, is another topic.
What is the point of you proving wrong a phrase not meant to be taken literally?
 
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Can't help imagining that Polonium could be even more challenging to obtain than SN or Nembutal ... and much more likely to attract official attention.
 
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additionally, even if someone was able to access and obtain and be able to get past SI to ingest a radioactive material — nothing is fully foolproof if you are found in time. death is likely yes, but there ARE treatments that include Dimercaprol, gastric aspiration or leveraging, and washing the body to remove external traces. if found and treated, your body will be fucked.

damage includes

-lung damage
-destruction of stomach lining
-infection
-depositing in bone marrow.

and more.

many things are lethal. most things are not a method.
 
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Okay, so how does one actually go about obtaining this then? The lethality of an item doesn't matter if you are unable to access it in the first place
 
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additionally, even if someone was able to access and obtain and be able to get past SI to ingest a radioactive material — nothing is fully foolproof if you are found in time. death is likely yes, but there ARE treatments that include Dimercaprol, gastric aspiration or leveraging, and washing the body to remove external traces. if found and treated, your body will be fucked.

damage includes

-lung damage
-destruction of stomach lining
-infection
-depositing in bone marrow.

and more.

many things are lethal. most things are not a method.
There is no treatment that can save you from this radioactive poisoning.
 
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Radiation Poisoning is incredibly painful and slow. I'm not keen on my skin melting off of my body, even if I am suicidal. Also, that's a picture of polonium ore, which is much less concentrated and most certainly not the isotope you are talking about. Not only that, ore is much less deadly than pure polonium metal. Let's just say you find some ore out in the wild because getting pure radioactive substances is almost impossible; Where are you going to find even impure Polonium 210 that hasn't decayed into it's surprisingly much less dangerous (also impure) neighbor, Uranium 238? Do you have a clue how radioactivity works? Not to mention what the other commenters are saying, which is that you are an absolute doofus for believing there is no cure to radiation poisoning. Potassium Iodine which has been used in the past for particularly nasty radioactive accidents, bone marrow treatment, DTPA, even fucking Prussian Blue.
 
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Fun fact: living is a 100% foolproof method in dying. You are absolutely positively matter of fact guaranteed to die. Not surprisingly, this information helps no one. There's no use in finding obscure and brutal methods just to prove a meaningless point.
 
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I read a whole book of toxicology. Only pick SN, due to symptoms and accessibility. Most toxic elements cause terrible damage and pain. Get a pesticide or herbicide is the easiest way to poison yourself to death, but is with Hugh PAIN
 
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Radiation Poisoning is incredibly painful and slow. I'm not keen on my skin melting off of my body, even if I am suicidal. Also, that's a picture of polonium ore, which is much less concentrated and most certainly not the isotope you are talking about. Not only that, ore is much less deadly than pure polonium metal. Let's just say you find some ore out in the wild because getting pure radioactive substances is almost impossible; Where are you going to find even impure Polonium 210 that hasn't decayed into it's surprisingly much less dangerous (also impure) neighbor, Uranium 238? Do you have a clue how radioactivity works? Not to mention what the other commenters are saying, which is that you are an absolute doofus for believing there is no cure to radiation poisoning. Potassium Iodine which has been used in the past for particularly nasty radioactive accidents, bone marrow treatment, DTPA, even fucking Prussian Blue.
BUMPPPPPP.
 
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Radiation Poisoning is incredibly painful and slow. I'm not keen on my skin melting off of my body, even if I am suicidal. Also, that's a picture of polonium ore, which is much less concentrated and most certainly not the isotope you are talking about. Not only that, ore is much less deadly than pure polonium metal. Let's just say you find some ore out in the wild because getting pure radioactive substances is almost impossible; Where are you going to find even impure Polonium 210 that hasn't decayed into it's surprisingly much less dangerous (also impure) neighbor, Uranium 238? Do you have a clue how radioactivity works? Not to mention what the other commenters are saying, which is that you are an absolute doofus for believing there is no cure to radiation poisoning. Potassium Iodine which has been used in the past for particularly nasty radioactive accidents, bone marrow treatment, DTPA, even fucking Prussian Blue.
Don't play with words. I never said there was no cure for some mild types of radiation poisoning. I was very specific and talked about a certain isotope. I then asserted that if taken in certain quantities it is infallible and death is certain. This is not the first time it has been used in history. This demonstrates that certain methods exist. It is not important the availability, the pain, the transfiguration of the body etc etc... Here in the forum many people have presented very brutal options, such as immolation. I wouldn't do it...so what? Whether you like the method or not is irrelevant, I'm sorry if the photo doesn't suit you. Are you climbing on mirrors to prove what? There is no salvation after ingesting a very small amount of polonium and you can write whatever you want and try to convince whoever you want. The cure presented by the other user for polonium radiation poisoning is fresh water. The goal was to demonstrate the infallibility of a method for suicide. And when a procedure achieves an objective, it is in fact a method.
Okay, so how does one actually go about obtaining this then? The lethality of an item doesn't matter if you are unable to access it in the first place
Well, it depends on what you want to achieve. The market is very strong, both on the web and among the mafias.
The costs are very high. But here in the forum there are people who are not afraid of pain and others who would like to have a serious illness to access assisted suicide (very expensive) in Switzerland. I think radioactive poisoning can satisfy both requirements.

"Over 4,000 accidents involving nuclear material Since data collection began in 1993, 145 States have reported 4,243 incidents to the IAEA, 350 of which are likely related to the trafficking or misuse of nuclear materials. "Probably" because in 87% of cases it is not possible to establish the connection with illicit trafficking with certainty. But only in 9% of cases a direct connection has been ruled out, while in 4% it is practically certain. All this data is contained in the annual Incident and trafficking database (Itdb) and by "illicit trafficking" we mean all those activities ranging from illegal possession, to the offering for sale and smuggling of material."
 
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Don't play with words. I never said there was no cure for some mild types of radiation poisoning. I was very specific and talked about a certain isotope. I then asserted that if taken in certain quantities it is infallible and death is certain. This is not the first time it has been used in history. This demonstrates that certain methods exist. It is not important the availability, the pain, the transfiguration of the body etc etc... Here in the forum many people have presented very brutal options, such as immolation. I wouldn't do it...so what? Whether you like the method or not is irrelevant, I'm sorry if the photo doesn't suit you. Are you climbing on mirrors to prove what? There is no salvation after ingesting a very small amount of polonium and you can write whatever you want and try to convince whoever you want. The cure presented by the other user for polonium radiation poisoning is fresh water. The goal was to demonstrate the infallibility of a method for suicide. And when a procedure achieves an objective, it is in fact a method.
you're trying to ultimately prove a point that has no bearing on the right to die movement as it stands. things like accessibility absolutely do matter. that's easy to learn just looking at the forum here. if something is essentially inaccessible to 99.9% of people, what's the point?

i'll repeat: many things are lethal. most are not a reliable method for many reasons. (ie: accessibility, price, potential legal complications etc)
 
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you're trying to ultimately prove a point that has no bearing on the right to die movement as it stands. things like accessibility absolutely do matter. that's easy to learn just looking at the forum here. if something is essentially inaccessible to 99.9% of people, what's the point?

i'll repeat: many things are lethal. most are not a reliable method for many reasons. (ie: accessibility, price, potential legal complications etc)
Nembutal is also essentially inaccessible to 99% of users here. Did two of them succeed? Even obtaining opioids and drugs on the web gets people into legal problems, yet they do it and write about it.
 
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I'm already dying a slow and painful death, I'd rather wait for my bus. This method seems painful, long, and agonizing. I think if ingested, one would call for help because they would be violently sick. I understand why anyone would pick this method, but they probably would never understand my method either.
Thanks for the information.
 
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Don't play with words. I never said there was no cure for some mild types of radiation poisoning. I was very specific and talked about a certain isotope. I then asserted that if taken in certain quantities it is infallible and death is certain. This is not the first time it has been used in history. This demonstrates that certain methods exist. It is not important the availability, the pain, the transfiguration of the body etc etc... Here in the forum many people have presented very brutal options, such as immolation. I wouldn't do it...so what? Whether you like the method or not is irrelevant, I'm sorry if the photo doesn't suit you. Are you climbing on mirrors to prove what? There is no salvation after ingesting a very small amount of polonium and you can write whatever you want and try to convince whoever you want. The cure presented by the other user for polonium radiation poisoning is fresh water. The goal was to demonstrate the infallibility of a method for suicide. And when a procedure achieves an objective, it is in fact a method.
I understand your point, however, after hearing that someone wanted to commit suicide by self-crucification, no method seems too violent in comparison
 
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Radiation Poisoning is incredibly painful and slow. I'm not keen on my skin melting off of my body, even if I am suicidal. Also, that's a picture of polonium ore, which is much less concentrated and most certainly not the isotope you are talking about. Not only that, ore is much less deadly than pure polonium metal. Let's just say you find some ore out in the wild because getting pure radioactive substances is almost impossible; Where are you going to find even impure Polonium 210 that hasn't decayed into it's surprisingly much less dangerous (also impure) neighbor, Uranium 238? Do you have a clue how radioactivity works? Not to mention what the other commenters are saying, which is that you are an absolute doofus for believing there is no cure to radiation poisoning. Potassium Iodine which has been used in the past for particularly nasty radioactive accidents, bone marrow treatment, DTPA, even fucking Prussian Blue.
Radiation poisoning is definitely awful but the only case of skin melting off I've heard about is the Japanese guy who got caught in a particle accelerator and was irradiated by the beam of ultra high energy particles. From what I've read ingesting radioactive material won't burn your skin, but will cause nausea and stomach bleeding and can cause organ failure. The risk though is even if you do get your hands on some the purity isn't assured, and if you survive you'll be guaranteed to get exotic cancers later in life.
 
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like others have already said, when it comes to ctb what is "lethal" and what is a "method" are 2 very different things.
getting eaten by a shark is also lethal, but is it really an ideal way to off yourself?
 
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There's a myriad of ways to get radiation poisoning that will almost certainly kill you but I guarantee no matter how suicidal you are, you don't want any of them.
 
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Sure, just go down to the local nuclear power plant and ask for a little bit.
 
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It will take days or weeks, but once ingested, death is assured. Even pain and suffering, but there is no salvation. It is impossible to survive the 210 (210Po) isotope of Polonium. Further proof that there are methods with 100% guaranteed lethality, not only with Nembutal.View attachment 156148
The lethal dose is much less than one gram.
Hemlock will give definite lethality at the right dose. As several others have mentioned though in what manner and with what time do you want to pass.

In the end though when the cart is too full and the weight slows every step, when you look around and know no one is there, really there, for some the manner and time of the last breath will only matter that it is the last.
 
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Don't play with words. I never said there was no cure for some mild types of radiation poisoning. I was very specific and talked about a certain isotope. I then asserted that if taken in certain quantities it is infallible and death is certain. This is not the first time it has been used in history. This demonstrates that certain methods exist. It is not important the availability, the pain, the transfiguration of the body etc etc... Here in the forum many people have presented very brutal options, such as immolation. I wouldn't do it...so what? Whether you like the method or not is irrelevant, I'm sorry if the photo doesn't suit you. Are you climbing on mirrors to prove what? There is no salvation after ingesting a very small amount of polonium and you can write whatever you want and try to convince whoever you want. The cure presented by the other user for polonium radiation poisoning is fresh water. The goal was to demonstrate the infallibility of a method for suicide. And when a procedure achieves an objective, it is in fact a method.

Well, it depends on what you want to achieve. The market is very strong, both on the web and among the mafias.
The costs are very high. But here in the forum there are people who are not afraid of pain and others who would like to have a serious illness to access assisted suicide (very expensive) in Switzerland. I think radioactive poisoning can satisfy both requirements.

"Over 4,000 accidents involving nuclear material Since data collection began in 1993, 145 States have reported 4,243 incidents to the IAEA, 350 of which are likely related to the trafficking or misuse of nuclear materials. "Probably" because in 87% of cases it is not possible to establish the connection with illicit trafficking with certainty. But only in 9% of cases a direct connection has been ruled out, while in 4% it is practically certain. All this data is contained in the annual Incident and trafficking database (Itdb) and by "illicit trafficking" we mean all those activities ranging from illegal possession, to the offering for sale and smuggling of material."
First of all, the title of your form said 100%. Second of all, I wish to know if you read my message about actual treatments for radiation poisoning, because I'm not sure why you won't mention those specific proven methods. The reason I care so much is because I find it shameful to go onto a form and create a new "100% lethal" method without understanding the core mechanics behind radioactive substances, not to mention being so confident that you are right. It is blatant misinformation, and that sickens me. You said someone told you the cure was fresh water, but you didn't mention the popular and working inhibitors such as potassium iodine. On access; If you can find a website that sells purified polonium 210, and that isn't a honey pot, it would be a miracle. How do you think the mafia works, that you can just go up and ask for polonium 210? Good luck finding a dealer before that source decays, with a half life of 4 and a half months. Again, Polonium 210 will kill you without medical treatment, and it will be painful. But there is so many ways to fuck it up on the way. People do survive radiation poisoning, because its a change in the cells. The element is throwing electrons at you, so many things could happen or not happen. It's a complex subject that has more thought than "100% lethality" or "No cure". It is foolish to believe that angry electrons will always give you supercancer. That is why I am replying to you. Because it is a blunt mockery of the subject as a whole, and a painful agonizing "method" that would not be recommended on the site.

On another note, can you cite your source?
 
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Apparently it's a good assassination method if you happen to be a spy. You didn't hear that from me, OK?
 
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It will take days or weeks, but once ingested, death is assured. Even pain and suffering, but there is no salvation. It is impossible to survive the 210 (210Po) isotope of Polonium. Further proof that there are methods with 100% guaranteed lethality, not only with Nembutal.View attachment 156148
The lethal dose is much less than one gram.
Have you watched the film Threads? I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.
 
L'absent

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First of all, the title of your form said 100%. Second of all, I wish to know if you read my message about actual treatments for radiation poisoning, because I'm not sure why you won't mention those specific proven methods. The reason I care so much is because I find it shameful to go onto a form and create a new "100% lethal" method without understanding the core mechanics behind radioactive substances, not to mention being so confident that you are right. It is blatant misinformation, and that sickens me. You said someone told you the cure was fresh water, but you didn't mention the popular and working inhibitors such as potassium iodine. On access; If you can find a website that sells purified polonium 210, and that isn't a honey pot, it would be a miracle. How do you think the mafia works, that you can just go up and ask for polonium 210? Good luck finding a dealer before that source decays, with a half life of 4 and a half months. Again, Polonium 210 will kill you without medical treatment, and it will be painful. But there is so many ways to fuck it up on the way. People do survive radiation poisoning, because its a change in the cells. The element is throwing electrons at you, so many things could happen or not happen. It's a complex subject that has more thought than "100% lethality" or "No cure". It is foolish to believe that angry electrons will always give you supercancer. That is why I am replying to you. Because it is a blunt mockery of the subject as a whole, and a painful agonizing "method" that would not be recommended on the site.

On another note, can you cite your source?
I'm sorry it disgusts you, but your post is totally useless. You will not be able to save anyone who takes 20 micrograms of this substance, not even 10, not even 5, or much less. All the treatments you have proposed will not stop the 100% certain lethality. This shows that the method (regardless of its availability which is not the subject of discussion in the thread, but was cleverly added so as not to admit that there are methods effective in 100% lethality) guarantees death. And would you treat polonium 210 poisoning with iodine? Congratulations I have not recommended this method to anyone. This is a place where you can talk freely about everything and often we talk about methods that are not available, inaccessible or impracticable. The mafias deal with radioactive material, it's true. But I didn't write that they deal with these pure isotopes. Producing what is needed would cost thousands of euros. The mafias supply many other radioactive materials and I repeat that I am not recommending them, but they are still 100% lethal with horrible deaths generally. Highly radioactive materials have always been on the market and there is no need to go to the Transnistra where in the open air you find abandoned Soviet missiles and highly toxic products of all kinds managed by criminals. There is uranium trafficking that the mafias import from Africa and other parts. However, there is no cure for 5 micrograms of polonium 210 ingested, that's the point. You can't fail.
Therefore, it is misinformation to say: "all methods can fail", more accurate to say "generally available methods are not 100% lethal". Also because someone here got Pentobarbital for veterinary use and it is 100% lethal, as is Tanax.
 
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Nembutal is also essentially inaccessible to 99% of users here. Did two of them succeed? Even obtaining opioids and drugs on the web gets people into legal problems, yet they do it and write about it.
you're an edgelord troll here
 
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L'absent

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you're an edgelord troll here
I don't seem to have offended anyone or even to have adopted extreme attitudes. However, I have read many posts with extreme advice (one user here even talks about someone who proposed crucifixion and extreme pain has also been talked about as a method on other occasions). I have often talked about methods such as LPG, hydrogen sulphide, guillotine. They are all methods that cause little or no suffering, certainly better than the hanging you often talk about. Yet I do not attack those who use brutal methods such as immolation. But if you like to call me a troll, it's all the same to me, you probably love pointing the finger at those you don't approve of. I am not interested.