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- Nov 20, 2019
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Ironically, these so called 'pro-lifers' would just nope the hell out because they really don't give a shit about anyone's REAL problems except for the fact that the suicidal person stays alive at all costs. This isn't to downplay or insult you, but just pointing out the hypocrisy of pro-lifers. Pro-lifers are pro-suffering in a way and they just enjoy having people alive regardless of condition and situation. Some of them may accept death, but only in very, very limited circumstances (very terminally ill people) and even then, they are still resistant towards the idea of a dignified death.I'd tell them let's peruse all my "temporary problems" my psychiatrist has diagnosed me with over the last 18 years. Hell, we could even have popcorn while we read the files, that'd be fun.
I totally get what you're saying & it's right on the money. I've never understood the urgency to keep somebody alive if they don't want to be. I mean, there are over 7 billion people fucking up the planet now, the US is the 3rd most populated country in the world, I'm pretty sure I read Social Security & Disability take up around a quarter of the US budget, hospitals are overflowing so much a person can hardly get a bed, Pharmaceutical companies and doctors are making a killing off a person's pain and suffering. If you've ever been a mental patient sometimes you'll see these guys in suits holding briefcases & going back to convince the doctor to buy whatever they're peddling...all these guys are professional crooks. They're making a killing off the mentally ill. And who knows, maybe they're setting us up for concentration camps or the salt mines to have free labor.Ironically, these so called 'pro-lifers' would just nope the hell out because they really don't give a shit about anyone's REAL problems except for the fact that the suicidal person stays alive at all costs. This isn't to downplay or insult you, but just pointing out the hypocrisy of pro-lifers. Pro-lifers are pro-suffering in a way and they just enjoy having people alive regardless of condition and situation. Some of them may accept death, but only in very, very limited circumstances (very terminally ill people) and even then, they are still resistant towards the idea of a dignified death.
One thing that amazes me is someone who's mentally ill (or is told they are) can see a psychiatrist and/or therapist for years and never get better. I still see a psychiatrist to get maintenance meds, but I quit seeing therapists long ago. I know therapy helps a lot of people so this is just my opinion, but 10 years of therapy never helped me at all, and 18 years of meds hasn't done anything special either. I guess I take them out of habit. A few I actually need, but I've stopped taking dozens of pills because of side effects. My psychiatrist told me once 3% of people don't respond to therapy or meds at all, & maybe I was one of them. Gee, thanks, Mr. Doctor. Keep taking my money and telling me that shit.@passenger27 I don't blame you at all. The whole psychiatric industry is really self-serving and relies on deceiving the masses that there are things wrong with people just so they can claim to 'fix' these problems. Mind you, there are people with legit mental illnesses, but of course, we shouldn't assume that everyone who wants to die is mentally ill or irrational. It's really short sighted and ignorant, but of course, logic and reasoning fall on deaf ears. We could try to slowly get society to change and/or if failing that, we would just have to quietly, and secretly exit this hellish world. It's too dangerous to have an open discussion about things like this IRL.
The problem is that is its caused by "too many harmless spiders" or "one big harmless spider""suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
It doesn't sound persuasive when taken literally. But maybe by that some connotative meaning like "suicide is questionably radical solution to your relatively petty problem", or "why set the whole house on fire because of some small harmless spider?". Although now it's full of bullshit assumptions.
Sorry for syntax issues. Or semantic. I'm tiredrunk, that's my excuse.
It goes to show that you don't need to have any kind of mental illness to have a desire to commit suicide.One thing that amazes me is someone who's mentally ill (or is told they are) can see a psychiatrist and/or therapist for years and never get better. I still see a psychiatrist to get maintenance meds, but I quit seeing therapists long ago. I know therapy helps a lot of people so this is just my opinion, but 10 years of therapy never helped me at all, and 18 years of meds hasn't done anything special either. I guess I take them out of habit. A few I actually need, but I've stopped taking dozens of pills because of side effects. My psychiatrist told me once 3% of people don't respond to therapy or meds at all, & maybe I was one of them. Gee, thanks, Mr. Doctor. Keep taking my money and telling me that shit.
The short and skinny of it is, I can honestly say I'm worse off mental wise than when I 1st started seeking help. They don't care. I'm just another dollar sign they can suck the life out of.
I know there's a lot of miserable people in the world that don't have mental illness at all who want to CTB. Terminally ill people, lonely people, even just people bored with life, and I think these people have as much right to die as live. It's called choice, and I think people should stop being "rescued" from their choices. What kind of society is that? Dystopian, says I.
Another redditor has said it before but I'll say it again "life is the temporary problem" :) So Suicide is the permanent solution to a "temporary problem" ;)
I have just seen a commenter on Reddit's r/SW that actually spoke a good rebuttal against the commonly heard cliche of "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
Below is a comment by reddit u/Benzo86
I have also quoted it in case Reddit's mods or admins decide to remove the comment.
This is how I feel, everything seems meaningless. Life is not permanent anyway, I don't want to continue this journey when there is no destination for me to reach. There is no guarantee future will be better or not get worse as it has been happening with me. If happiness and good times means more money I will take all my money and go to a casino, why keeping doing something which I don't like for years in hope for a better future. I may save money for my trip next year, a month before trip I could get diagnosed with cancer or die in an accident, worse have to spend rest of my life on a bed. Life is a gamble and we lose in the end no matter what.I don't even WANT a happy life. I'm over everything. I think of happy times in my life and...meh. I don't want the hell I'm in to continue, I don't want it to get better...I just want it over. Temporary problem? Eh. I don't care if they are. I'm tired and finished.
Agreed. I have been living on borrowed time for over two years and I have struggled with it for a long long time before arriving at this decision.I agree, suicide IS rational. And like many before me have written, I don't want for things to get better. I'm simply tired and bored of life, it's not that great. Blah. Wish it was easier to depart...