Method 1,4 butanediol megathread

[Smalldangles]

Would you mind posting your anti-emetic regimen? I know so little about them, your test-run experience would be very valuable to me.

Thank you for this report.

Hey!

I used Prochlorperazine which I ordered online (prescription questionnaire required but easy to do!)

I took one every 8 hours for 48 hours before I took the GBL. Felt absolutely no nausea and didn't vomit whilst in a coma.

Let me know if you need any more information. I really like it as a way to ctb. Very peaceful.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

i strongly suggest to use it rectal because vomiting - even with use of anti vomiting medication is very likely


all people who failed vomited despite medication

 

[WolfgangA]

I'm not sure if it's too late to update this thread but I'd like to give my experience of GBL.

This was a test. I took anti emetics for 2 days leading up to the ingestion on my GBL. I took 20ml - I wanted to check whether it was painless going under.

I passed out after about 10 minutes and it was lovely. I felt really nice and happy and my body just got heavier. Someone was in the room with me, they said I went into a coma straight away, then after a couple of hours I began having convulsions and my breathing became extremely shallow. I woke up 12 hours later a bit dizzy.

It's extremely potent and I don't think it would take much to kill. I'm only small (90lb) so I have no idea how much would be a lethal dose.

I've heard 100ml would be more than enough for the average person but couldn't verify.

According to https://drugs-forum.com/wiki/GBL
" 1ml of GBL is equal to 1.6g of GHB and, due to the efficacy of the in-vivo conversion, is delivered more rapidly to the brain. "

If you take 20ml GBL, which would equal to 32g GHB, that alone should do more than that of a 12hour sleep and dizziness? This is far from "test dose" and based on my research on GHB/GBL/1.4b and their experiences, with a high dose like this its quite likely you would have been in need of medical attention, no?
See experiences here: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1926
Are you absolutely sure what you have/drank is "GBL"?

With 100ml the chances of vomiting dramatically increases to how much on a scale of 10?

 

[Smalldangles]

According to https://drugs-forum.com/wiki/GBL
" 1ml of GBL is equal to 1.6g of GHB and, due to the efficacy of the in-vivo conversion, is delivered more rapidly to the brain. "

If you take 20ml GBL, which would equal to 32g GHB, that alone should do more than that of a 12hour sleep and dizziness? This is far from "test dose" and based on my research on GHB/GBL/1.4b and their experiences, with a high dose like this its quite likely you would have been in need of medical attention, no?
See experiences here: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1926
Are you absolutely sure what you have/drank is "GBL"?

With 100ml the chances of vomiting dramatically increases to how much on a scale of 10?

It's absolutely GBL.

I should definitely have received medical attention. It wasn't just a 12 hour sleep is was convulsions, seizures, choking etc.

I'm just giving my experience of GBL.

Despite being a test dose, I wouldn't have been entirely devastated to have not woken up.

 

[overandout]

It's absolutely GBL.

I should definitely have received medical attention. It wasn't just a 12 hour sleep is was convulsions, seizures, choking etc.

I'm just giving my experience of GBL.

Despite being a test dose, I wouldn't have been entirely devastated to have not woken up.

Hi, Were you aware of the convulsions, seizures etc or were you asleep during that time? Would you want to use this as a method now you have tested it out and if not why?

 

[Smalldangles]

Hi, Were you aware of the convulsions, seizures etc or were you asleep during that time? Would you want to use this as a method now you have tested it out and if not why?

I was completely unaware. I'd have had no idea. It honestly just felt like I quickly fell asleep and woke up a bit dizzy and confused but obviously a lot happened between those two points.

I would want to use this as a method if I could get clarification on the amount I'd need. I would also mix with alcohol and benzos to help the process.

It seems a lot more peaceful than SN but it hasn't been widely used as a method so I guess it still needs trialling.

 

[WolfgangA]

My concern about higher dose is vomiting. There are number of reports of people vomiting on similar doses w/ and w/o anti-emetics and with a higher dose chances of vomiting increases. But we don't know to what extent. I'm just wondering if its possible to figure out a better anti-emetic regime for the said purpose to hopefully increase the chances of success maybe.

 

[Smalldangles]

My concern about higher dose is vomiting. There are number of reports of people vomiting on similar doses w/ and w/o anti-emetics and with a higher dose chances of vomiting increases. But we don't know to what extent. I'm just wondering if its possible to figure out a better anti-emetic regime for the said purpose to hopefully increase the chances of success maybe.

Im not sure whether many of the reported accidental deaths including GBL/GHB are possibly just down to people choking on their own vomit? What do you think?

 

[WolfgangA]

Im not sure whether many of the reported accidental deaths including GBL/GHB are possibly just down to people choking on their own vomit? What do you think?

I don't know.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

My concern about higher dose is vomiting. There are number of reports of people vomiting on similar doses w/ and w/o anti-emetics and with a higher dose chances of vomiting increases. But we don't know to what extent. I'm just wondering if its possible to figure out a better anti-emetic regime for the said purpose to hopefully increase the chances of success maybe.

rectal administration

 

[WolfgangA]

rectal administration

Thanks, I totally missed that. Silly question maybe but how would you do it?

 

[WolfgangA]

What would be a legitimate use of GBL? I'm thinking to go with use as muscle building supplement or to make my own homemade muscle building supplement maybe?

Thinking of purchasing GBL from sigma aldrich. wondering if they or their local dealers ask about your usage?
99% purity: https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/b103608
Or this 98% and its food grade: https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/w329118

 

[IronTusk]

What would be a legitimate use of GBL? I'm thinking to go with use as muscle building supplement or to make my own homemade muscle building supplement maybe?

Thinking of purchasing GBL from sigma aldrich. wondering if they or their local dealers ask about your usage?
99% purity: https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/b103608
Or this 98% and its food grade: https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/w329118

I took the time to read this thread a couple of days ago and although OP was on to something i think this as a method spells trouble...

 

[WolfgangA]

I took the time to read this thread a couple of days ago and although OP was on to something i think this as a method spells trouble...

Perhaps but I think if you can acquire and do it right, it should result in quite peaceful and fairly reliable ctb. Which is why I'm looking for an answer.

 

[IronTusk]

Perhaps but I think if you can acquire and do it right, it should result in quite peaceful and fairly reliable ctb. Which is why I'm looking for an answer.

Well if you get it. Mix it with other downers

 

[Meg]

Hello. Has anyone actually tried the rectal method? I read all of the posts from this thread and didn't see anyone that tried and failed after rectal administration (so I guess that's a good sign!) but I had questions. I saw "suggestions" of using a butt plug to retain the drug in the colon but I definitely don't want to pass out and die with a butt plug. Can it be administered like an enema? Inserted, held in by squeezing for a minute, and then relaxing the sphincter over the toliet? Would that lose too much drug for it to be effective or will you have absorbed what you needed to get the job done?

 

[Cloudy]

Bump. Has anyone tried the rectal method?
Has anyone successfully CBt'ed with this method (I know it's hard to be sure...)

 

[jake3d]

What would be a legitimate use of GBL?

It's brake cleaning fluid mate.

 

[WolfgangA]

@jake3d Thanks!

 

[Meg]

Bump. Has anyone tried the rectal method?
Has anyone successfully CBt'ed with this method (I know it's hard to be sure...)

Im going to try (by August 1) and I'll post on here.

 

[Cloudy]

Im going to try (by August 1) and I'll post on here.

would it be ok to ask you a couple of questions?

thanks for posting here anyway

 

[waitupana]

Are there any sources shipping internationally? Amazon's Indiana doesn't seem to.

 

[jake3d]

You could try 2M2B instead.

 

[waitupana]

You could try 2M2B instead.

Any further details?

 

[jake3d]

2M2B is another industrial solvent that can be (ab)used for recreational purposes and is pretty easy to OD on even accidentally. It is said to be basically ethanol x20, you can get drunk (with not too many risks) off just a few ml of it. Lethal dose (LD50) is apparently something like 30ml in one go, and it usually comes in 0.5L and 1L bottles. Somewhat similar to GHB/GBL in this regard. I see it runs somewhere around $80 for 1 liter.

You can get it on Amazon in the US, but I've tried and have yet to come up with any source that will sell to individuals if you're in Europe.

 

[waitupana]

2M2B is another industrial solvent that can be (ab)used for recreational purposes and is pretty easy to OD on even accidentally. It is said to be basically ethanol x20, you can get drunk (with not too many risks) off just a few ml of it. Lethal dose (LD50) is apparently something like 30ml in one go, and it usually comes in 0.5L and 1L bottles. Somewhat similar to GHB/GBL in this regard. I see it runs somewhere around $80 for 1 liter.

You can get it on Amazon in the US, but I've tried and have yet to come up with any source that will sell to individuals if you're in Europe.

Sounds promising! The sourcing does seem to be an issue.

 

[Aggy]

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the information so many of you have shared in both this and the Butanediol megathread. I've decided to use this method to CTB and wanted to please run it get some feedback here, if that's ok.


Antiemetic/metoclopramide - Still waiting to get this.
8oz 1,4 Butanediol
Wine


Prep:
Antiemetic (metoclopramide)
Fasting OR no eating at lease 6 hrs beforehand
Drink least 60mL/2 oz of liquid (make sure it's the >98). Make sure it's in a glass container if it isn't already, or else, just remove the label.

Directions:
Take the Antiemetic
Mix wine with 2oz of the liquid (from Indiana C)
Wait



Is this ok or do I need to acclimate myself to this through an anti-emetic regimen? I REALLY want to be successful and catch the bus this time.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the information so many of you have shared in both this and the Butanediol megathread. I've decided to use this method to CTB and wanted to please run it get some feedback here, if that's ok.


Antiemetic/metoclopramide - Still waiting to get this.
8oz 1,4 Butanediol
Wine


Prep:
Antiemetic (metoclopramide)
Fasting OR no eating at lease 6 hrs beforehand
Drink least 60mL/2 oz of liquid (make sure it's the >98). Make sure it's in a glass container if it isn't already, or else, just remove the label.

Directions:
Take the Antiemetic
Mix wine with 2oz of the liquid (from Indiana C)
Wait



Is this ok or do I need to acclimate myself to this through an anti-emetic regimen? I REALLY want to be successful and catch the bus this time.

i think rectal administration is best and only way

at least you wont get any longterm effects if you fail

just a few days in coma and lung inflammation

 

[Meg]

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the information so many of you have shared in both this and the Butanediol megathread. I've decided to use this method to CTB and wanted to please run it get some feedback here, if that's ok.


Antiemetic/metoclopramide - Still waiting to get this.
8oz 1,4 Butanediol
Wine


Prep:
Antiemetic (metoclopramide)
Fasting OR no eating at lease 6 hrs beforehand
Drink least 60mL/2 oz of liquid (make sure it's the >98). Make sure it's in a glass container if it isn't already, or else, just remove the label.

Directions:
Take the Antiemetic
Mix wine with 2oz of the liquid (from Indiana C)
Wait



Is this ok or do I need to acclimate myself to this through an anti-emetic regimen? I REALLY want to be successful and catch the bus this time.

If you're not in an extreme rush, you can see how it goes for me. I'm using the BDO instead of benzos in an amitriptyline cocktail. But not ready yet.

 

[Meg]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/amitriptyline-1-4-b.11008/#post-376204

Posting under the Ami + BDO method instead