Venting You wouldn't murder your own kid so why bring them alive to be murder

[Darkover]

it's unforgivable to be brought alive facing your own certain death
Life comes with the unavoidable certainty of death, and for some, the journey to that end is fraught with suffering. To create life knowing this is to impose a burden that some view as unforgivable.
it's unforgivable to be brought alive to slave away just to survive
Many are born into systems where survival demands relentless toil, often at the cost of well-being, dignity, and joy. This "survival slavery" is a grim reality for billions.
it's unforgivable to be brought alive to never receive any love throughout their lifetime
For those who grow up unloved, life can feel unbearably lonely and devoid of meaning. The absence of love is a deep wound that leaves scars across a lifetime.
it's unforgivable to be brought alive to a shithole and hellole
Many are born into environments of poverty, violence, and systemic injustice—conditions that can feel more like hell than a chance at a fulfilling life.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

I'm 100% agree and that's why I choose to not give birth and I agree with the AN. I'm a slave and I'm only here to work for others. We are all just working for this shitty capitalistic world. Here your monthly salary is as low as 120 dollar. And life is was never a beautiful thing. I hate my birth givers, on top they are abusive and bad people. I wish to die and I wish nobody born in this world where a person thought of suicide.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

It's because these people don't think that way due to the pro life indoctrination that has been placed upon them. These people oppose murder and even make laws against it (which is fair enough) but at the same time they celebrate birth too? It's so contradictory. If you give birth to somebody, you are causing them to die. Of course you may not have killed them directly but you instigated their life which in turn causes them to have to inevitably die in the first place. I'm not saying that they should be charged for murder of course but rather that people should be consistent and the consistent logic is acknowledging that giving birth is also giving death because these things come in pairs with every sentient life. No sentient life is immortal.

Those who were never born into this existence are immortal because they will never be killed.

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

I left Christianity because of this very reason (I was deeply emotional and fell into this trap). They convince themselves too much that God is pro-choice, but realistically, who in their right mind would do this to a child or to a person who didn't accept to be brought here when life isn't a means to a end. It's just not and anyone convincing themselves of that is a liar and a manipulator.

I'm 100% agree and that's why I choose to not give birth and I agree with the AN. I'm a slave and I'm only here to work for others. We are all just working for this shitty capitalistic world. Here your monthly salary is as low as 120 dollar. And life is was never a beautiful thing. I hate my birth givers, on top they are abusive and bad people. I wish to die and I wish nobody born in this world where a person thought of suicide.

 

[divinemistress36]

I'm starting to become an Anatalist. To much of a gamble to bring children into this world. They could have good lives but they could have terrible lives . I have good parents and I still ended up with major depression and a brain injury from an assault. I know its a big biological impluse to breed but I just dont get it..

 

[SilentSadness]

People have children due to their evolved instincts rather than reason or empathy. It is extremely beneficial for survival to continue irrationally believing that having children is acceptable and desirable, even though it's the cause of all experienced suffering, and therefore natural selection ensures people are delusionally pro-birth. Since suffering is beneficial for survival, people continue to suffer despite the hellish resulting reality. Most parents don't have any empathy towards their children and don't even know why they did it. This is the unfortunate reason why this world is doomed to be hellish. No matter how much people are convinced to not have children, they will die off and be replaced by sick individuals who continue to reproduce infinitely.

 

[Darkover]

It's because these people don't think that way due to the pro life indoctrination that has been placed upon them. These people oppose murder and even make laws against it (which is fair enough) but at the same time they celebrate birth too? It's so contradictory. If you give birth to somebody, you are causing them to die. Of course you may not have killed them directly but you instigated their life which in turn causes them to have to inevitably die in the first place. I'm not saying that they should be charged for murder of course but rather that people should be consistent and the consistent logic is acknowledging that giving birth is also giving death because these things come in pairs with every sentient life. No sentient life is immortal.

Those who were never born into this existence are immortal because they will never be killed.

Absolutely, and to add to this: the act of giving life isn't neutral—it imposes a finite existence filled with suffering, struggles, and the inevitability of death. Celebrating birth without acknowledging its inherent consequences feels incomplete, if not entirely contradictory. It's not just about the eventual death; it's about the burdens of life itself, which no one consents to. The immortal peace of never being born spares one from all of this, making non-existence a state of freedom rather than a loss.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Absolutely, and to add to this: the act of giving life isn't neutral—it imposes a finite existence filled with suffering, struggles, and the inevitability of death. Celebrating birth without acknowledging its inherent consequences feels incomplete, if not entirely contradictory. It's not just about the eventual death; it's about the burdens of life itself, which no one consents to. The immortal peace of never being born spares one from all of this, making non-existence a state of freedom rather than a loss.

Exactly, I never understood the whole "giving life is neutral" crap but, then again, I never really understood complete nihilists to begin with. Giving life isn't neutral at all, it's harmful