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I mentioned in this post (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-do-you-want-to-ctb.32388/page-2#post-693301) that I want to CTB because of my state's social distancing rules, as well as CDC's federal social distancing rules. Even the phrase "social distancing" alone makes me want to CTB, since I know my state will try to prolong it as much as it can. Which explains my username, and makes the "stay home, it saves lives" meme highly ironic.

Before Corona broke out, I had a very active social life. I was out hanging out with people every weekend, and a few weeknights too. I always enjoyed it, even though some of those social connections were on the superficial side. That's where deep down inside, I realize that some of those people might not care that I CTB'ed, besides the usual mainstream pro-lifer reaction.

Anyway... what would happen if I wrote a letter to my ruling politician that I CTB'ed because of their social distancing orders? Like my state or US representative, my senator, my governor, or CDC's upper management. He, in fact, my governor's social distancing orders was what drove me to this site. What would happen if I wrote one or more of those politicians an angry but formally-worded letter that pretty much says: "hey, I CTB'ed because of you"?

I'm pretty sure they'd just snicker and toss my letter in the garbage, before sitting down to a group dinner with their colleagues. But what if they actually react?

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I mentioned in this post (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-do-you-want-to-ctb.32388/page-2#post-693301) that I want to CTB because of my state's social distancing rules, as well as CDC's federal social distancing rules. Even the phrase "social distancing" alone makes me want to CTB. Before Corona broke out, I had a very active social life. I was out hanging out with people every weekend, and a few weeknights too. I always enjoyed it, even though some of those social connections were on the superficial side, where deep down inside, I realize that some of those people might not care that I CTB'ed.

Anyway... what would happen if I wrote a letter to my ruling politician that I CTB'ed because of their social distancing orders? Like my state or US representative, my senator, my governor, or CDC's upper management. He, in fact, my governor's social distancing orders was what drove me to this site. What would happen if I wrote one or more of those politicians an angry but formally-worded letter that pretty much says: "hey, I CTB'ed because of you"?

I'm pretty sure they'd just snicker and toss my letter in the garbage, before sitting down to a group dinner with their colleagues. But what if they actually react?

Thoughts?
They would think that you are literally insane.
 
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They would think that you are literally insane.
Well, yeah. I thought so too. But them thinking low of me will be irrelevant by then.

Any other reactions? (or lack thereof)
 
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I'm really sorry, but you say you've got a great life, good social connections and only want to ctb because of one small, temporary lockdown that has inconvenienced you?
I know that the lockdown affects everyone differently, I myself have been knocked in to a depression because of it. But I think it would be premature to ctb because of one, temporary situation in an otherwise good life. You will not get any response from politicians or the media as they will likely just blame mental illness.
 
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I'm really sorry, but you say you've got a great life, good social connections and only want to ctb because of one small, temporary lockdown that has inconvenienced you?
You said "temporary". Laws that start out as temporary usually end up being permanent. CDC says we'll have to do social distancing and/or lockdowns until late 2021, when a vaccine allegedly becomes available. And maybe the governments will prolong it still, "for our safety", of course. I don't want to socially distance that long; I'm an extrovert, and I thrive on social interactions. The endless, inescapable "social distancing" messages in the media only add fuel to the fire. Plus, there are other circumstances contributing to my decision that I'm not ready to share just yet.

The idea that I will have to socially distance for over a year from now, not be able to visit my family, and let my friendships (both real and superficial) atrophy from lack of face time for that long, is a good enough reason to want to CTB in my mind. I realize it's premature to do it now, and I don't plan to. But I want to have my bus on call, in case social distancing keeps getting extended by our politicians, with no end date in sight.

I was 99% certain that the politicians wouldn't care, if not snicker outright. But I thought I'd throw the idea out there.
 
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We will get back to almost normal, with a few changes and a totally wrecked economy. Don't kill yourself, you'll have drinks with your friends again soon. My kids are already out on bikes with their friends again, and people are starting to socialize at each other's houses, with distance. I'm an extrovert too - I thrived on dinners and drinks both with friends and for work (sales), traveling extensively. I've been housebound for 11 months due to a debilitating disease. I would give anything to have that health back.
 
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You know how 9/11 permanently changed airports? That's how the CDC says Corona will change social interactions.

Every state is different. Not every state is as bad as mine, I get that. Perhaps I should just move to a state that's already reopening, lack of money nonewithstanding, if it'll help save my life. But what if Corona permanently changes social interactions the way 9/11 changed airports? Now, that's where I'd CTB without a second thought.
 
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Oh my God. I can't even. I would get kicked off this page for sharing my thoughts with you about your "predicament". You have no idea the suffering many people endure on this page. Corona WILL change social interactions like 9/11 changed airports. That's called life.
 
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Laws that start out as temporary usually end up being permanent.

And crises have far-reaching impacts as well as "uses."

9/11 was twenty years ago, but the Patriot Act keeps getting renewed. Airport screening regulations are something everyone was forced to get used to, it's not unreasonable to think social distancing and face masks will become new enforced norms that people won't have a choice about. The inability to use cash and forcing people to use electronic devices and have much of their lives online may follow. Fear, whether manufactured or used for advantage, creates compliance. The solution of a vaccine may be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Was autism an epidemic before vaccines, or did pushing vaccines (or some other manufactured cause) create an epidemic?

Milennials can't get jobs and NEETS exist as a result of the 2008 financial crisis. Corporations were bailed out and are more powerful, while small businesses and individuals are disempowered. Jobs that typically went to teens and even pre-teens, like newspaper delivery and fast food jobs, went to adults who lost work due to the crisis.

COVID is being hyped as a global crisis, which means there will be global changes, and folks aren't going to have a choice about whether or not to go along. We can predict all sorts of shit that may be coming, but I bet we're going to be blindsided by some of it. Back to normal? Doubt it.
 
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Laws that start out as temporary usually end up being permanent.

And crises have far-reaching impacts as well as "uses."

9/11 was twenty years ago, but the Patriot Act keeps getting renewed. Airport screening regulations are something everyone was forced to get used to, it's not unreasonable to think social distancing and face masks will become new enforced norms that people won't have a choice about. The inability to use cash and forcing people to use electronic devices and have much of their lives online may follow. Fear, whether manufactured or used for advantage, creates compliance. The solution of a vaccine may be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Was autism an epidemic before vaccines, or did pushing vaccines (or some other manufactured cause) create an epidemic?

Milennials can't get jobs and NEETS exist as a result of the 2008 financial crisis. Corporations were bailed out and are more powerful, while small businesses and individuals are disempowered. Jobs that typically went to teens and even pre-teens, like newspaper delivery and fast food jobs, went to adults who lost work due to the crisis.

COVID is being hyped as a global crisis, which means there will be global changes, and folks aren't going to have a choice about whether or not to go along. We can predict all sorts of shit that may be coming, but I bet we're going to be blindsided by some of it. Back to normal? Doubt it.
The world will certainly change. The economy will be wrecked. There will be new rules. But, like 9/11, life goes on. It's unfortunate because we had JUST recovered from 2008. Life will continue. I wish I could stay in it.
 
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9/11 was twenty years ago, but the Patriot Act keeps getting renewed. Airport screening regulations are something everyone was forced to get used to, it's not unreasonable to think social distancing and face masks will become new enforced norms that people won't have a choice about. The inability to use cash and forcing people to use electronic devices and have much of their lives online may follow. Fear, whether manufactured or used for advantage, creates compliance. The solution of a vaccine may be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
And that's exactly why I want to CTB. The horrorshow our society is turning into, I don't want to be a part of it. I want to go out with friends, dance with strangers at a Latin music festival, exchange hugs with strangers I just met on a cruise ship over a shared emotional moment. You know, little things that make you feel HUMAN.

The way CDC is spinning this Corona thing, those things are gone forever. I want to live my life as a PERSON, not a bunch of electrons being transmitted across a proverbial Skynet system. That's something even a whole bottle of liquor can't drown out. Hence, CTB.
 
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And that's exactly why I want to CTB. The horrorshow out society is turning into, I don't want to be a part of it. I want to go out with friends, dance with strangers I just met at a Latin music festival, exchange hugs with strangers I just met on a cruise ship over a shared emotional moment. You know, little things that make you feel HUMAN.

The way CDC is spinning this Corona thing, those things are gone forever. I want to live my life as a PERSON, not a bunch of electrons being transmitted across a proverbial Skynet system. Hence, CTB.
Humanity will not be extinguished. Human connection is vital to so many people, and extroverts will never change. I was in medial software sales before I got sick - a field where literally everything could be done virtually. Sales was still a road warrior job, because people need to see people to make the wheels turn. This is not the first pandemic, human closeness survived the last ones. This is not worth dying over.
 
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@MyStateKilledMe


And that's exactly why I want to CTB. The horrorshow our society is turning into, I don't want to be a part of it.


It's a rational choice, and it's your choice.

You may enjoy this thread, especially post 18:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-stoic-perspective-on-impulse-and-courage-in-ctb.32674/

and post 48 of this thread:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...and-practice-journal.31458/page-2#post-634049
 
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Humanity will not be extinguished. Human connection is vital to so many people, and extroverts will never change. I was in medial software sales before I got sick - a field where literally everything could be done virtually. Sales was still a road warrior job, because people need to see people to make the wheels turn. This is not the first pandemic, human closeness survived the last ones. This is not worth dying over.
My boyfriend never stopped his company from working, he owns a large landscaping business. He literally can not and will not stop going to peoples houses and talking to them. People won't stop calling and asking him to come over for quotes and meetings either. He's gotten at least 3 letters from the CDC. He throws them in the trash and moves on. People want him at their houses. You just can't stop humanity. We live in Ohio, which has been nationally recognized as being one of the most strict states. Human spirit will override in the end.
 
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Most people think that ''the end of the world is upon us" or that this is the "new norm". I don't think it is, and I'm sure once this pandemic blows over, everything will go back to normal ❤ It's just the ''norm" for right now

There's been statements from various leaders stating that they're hoping to open places back up on a certain date, etc. I don't think that they're purposely prolonging this because things won't not go back to normal. I just think they have unrealistic timelines. It seems (in my opinion) that they're trying to rush this pandemic in order to open things back up. You can't rush a world wide pandemic

On the side note, we're slowly but surely flattening the curve. Cases in China have gone down drastically -- even if it has taken some time. I don't think this pandemic will be over in the next month but it will come to an end eventually. People are trying to find "cures" (if you will) -- they want everyone to social distance so that we don't catch and further spread corona. If we don't continue to social distance, this will only continue on longer.

I do think that the government realizes that this is hard on mental health and the extroverts. It's hard on everyone's mental health (for the most part). Where I am, the government is really emphasizing on reaching out for support when and if needed. There's many others out there who understand what you're going through. While I don't like this cheezy saying, which I'm going to use for this case, you're not alone :hug: Even if you're mental health is good, you can always still reach out to someone.

At one point, I did think the government was behind this. No one can be sure, so we shouldn't blame leaders for our own ctb during this time. That would be like a smack in the face.. especially if they're just trying to ''protect people". Whether we believe it or not.

I think it's really good that you enjoy to get out :) While it may be difficult during these times, try your best to entertain yourself. Use zoom and videochat with friends, watch a good movie, do things around your home that you couldn't do before all of this started ❤

I guess my thoughts on this whole thing is where this case stands, things will get better if the pandemic is the only reason why you want to ctb. It might not feel like it, but it will. We're all in the same position.

Sorry for such the long response.. and it is ultimately your choice ❤
 
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This is not worth dying over.

Not for you.

But this is a pro-choice site, not pro-approval or pro-popular consensus.

I respectfully present a wider perspective:

@Blutsager sees post-apocalyptic scenarios happening in weeks and wants to escape them. @MyStateKilledMe, an extrovert, sees enforced isolation and wants to escape it. You have insurmountable physical issues and want to escape them, but think the world will go back to a kind of normal and would embrace what you envision if your health allowed it. All three of you see very different scenarios for a post-COVID crisis world, and none of you can possibly know what it will actually look like. Arguing over validity of one's choice for escaping life is not pro-choice. Life is suffering in an infinite number of forms. Worry over the unknown is suffering. Physical issues are suffering. Being under the control of governments is suffering. Imagining the worst outcomes is suffering. Being certain that one's world is safe and having it proven wrong is suffering. The desire to escape suffering comes with consciousness. One's perception or experience of suffering is no more or less valid than another's. Even if I think someone's reasoning is totally nuts, I don't have to live in their minds and make their choices, and I don't know everything, I could be proven wrong at any time. I often am.
 
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Not for you.

But this is a pro-choice site, not pro-approval or pro-popular consensus.

I respectfully present a wider perspective:

@Blutsager sees post-apocalyptic scenarios happening in weeks and wants to escape them. @MyStateKilledMe, an extrovert, sees enforced isolation and wants to escape it. You have insurmountable physical issues and want to escape them, but think the world will go back to a kind of normal and would embrace what you envision if your health allowed it. All three of you see very different scenarios for a post-COVID crisis world, and none of you can possibly know what it will actually look like. Arguing over validity of one's choice for escaping life is not pro-choice. Life is suffering in an infinite number of forms. Worry over the unknown is suffering. Physical issues are suffering. Being under the control of governments is suffering. Imagining the worst outcomes is suffering. Being certain that one's world is safe and having it proven wrong is suffering. The desire to escape suffering comes with consciousness. One's perception or experience of suffering is no more or less valid than another's. Even if I think someone's reasoning is totally nuts, I don't have to live in their minds and make their choices, and I don't know everything, I could be proven wrong at any time. I often am.
To each their own!♥️
 
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I give you a hug emoji (and sent you virtual hugs too :hug:). I don't think you are wrong for wanting to CTB at all, this pandemic is also one of my reasons as well for wanting to CTB, especially if there are permanent changes to human interaction and connection. I'll admit, I'm a person who is big on physical affection, hugs, kisses, and what not. I don't like my own heritage's culture (East Asian culture where there is non-PDA) and prefer the Western one. I'm an introvert myself, but I do love physical affection and feel the need for human connection, especially people I like or hold high regards for.

And that's exactly why I want to CTB. The horrorshow our society is turning into, I don't want to be a part of it. I want to go out with friends, dance with strangers at a Latin music festival, exchange hugs with strangers I just met on a cruise ship over a shared emotional moment. You know, little things that make you feel HUMAN.

The way CDC is spinning this Corona thing, those things are gone forever. I want to live my life as a PERSON, not a bunch of electrons being transmitted across a proverbial Skynet system. That's something even a whole bottle of liquor can't drown out. Hence, CTB.

My sentiments exactly more than 100x over. In fact, after this pandemic has hit and while it has messed with my original CTB plan, it is in a sense strengthened my conviction and resolve that CTB is my answer as well. I have other existing major reasons as well but this one really seals the deal (along with my ladyfriend one). Also, just found some articles talking about the changes in human interaction as a result of 'social distancing'



(This one below even mentions the importance of human touch)

 
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At one point, I did think the government was behind this. No one can be sure, so we shouldn't blame leaders for our own ctb during this time. That would be like a smack in the face.. especially if they're just trying to ''protect people". Whether we believe it or not.
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I guess my thoughts on this whole thing is where this case stands, things will get better if the pandemic is the only reason why you want to ctb. It might not feel like it, but it will. We're all in the same position.
Smacking my state's government in the face is the reason for the thread title. It's as much as I can do to stick it to them now. I mean, they enacted social distancing to "save lives" :meh:, but ended up provoking a suicide with their negligence.

As for the "pandemic", Corona is no different than the 2003 SARS, the 2009 Swine Flu, or the 2014 Ebola. None of those diseases caused mass quarantines, even though they were equally severe. But with 2020 Corona, they, could easily become either permanent or recurring. I don't want to get into politics, but in short, I blame my state government and the CDC, not Corona-19, for pushing me to CTB. It's kind of why I want to mail a letter to my governor and/or the CDC, saying that I CTB'ed because of their social distancing rules. Even though I won't be around to see the results, it'll be nice to throw a monkey wrench into CDC's "stay home, it saves lives" mantra.

I don't believe the situation will get better. The government overreach and the "social distancing will only get worse, all of which is much ado about nothing, in my opinion. The social distancing rules have been getting more and more draconian over the last month. And when a new restrictive law gets enacted, it never goes away. Hence, CTB.
 
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I don't think you are wrong for wanting to CTB at all, this pandemic is also one of my reasons as well for wanting to CTB, especially if there are permanent changes to human interaction and connection. I'll admit, I'm a person who is big on physical affection, hugs, kisses, and what not. I don't like my own heritage's culture (East Asian culture where there is non-PDA) and prefer the Western one. I'm an introvert myself, but I do love physical affection and feel the need for human connection, especially people I like or hold high regards for.

My sentiments exactly more than 100x over. In fact, after this pandemic has hit and while it has messed with my original CTB plan, it is in a sense strengthened my conviction and resolve that CTB is my answer as well. I have other existing major reasons as well but this one really seals the deal (along with my ladyfriend one). Also, just found some articles talking about the changes in human interaction as a result of 'social distancing
I'm a garden-variety WASP, although I'm not religious. That said, I think I carry a recessive Spanish gene somewhere, because I'm very big on hugs, dancing, jumping up and down with arms around each other at a rock concert, and so on. I'm not talking about romantic touch, but touch as communication. Not to mention, the friendly camaraderie of large groups. Hence "Spanish gene", since the Spanish culture is highly extroverted and touch-heavy, especially between members of the opposite sex. And right now, the CDC is telling us that such things will become a little more than historic relics (like streetcar tracks on old roads), or least will not return for years and years. There were warnings that social distancing can cause an uptick in suicides, but the CDC censored them in favor of "saving lives" from Corona.

The CDC can shove its guidelines up its collective rectum! But if the things I loved aren't coming back anytime soon or possibly never, then where's my bus?
 
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I'm a garden-variety WASP, although I'm not religious. That said, I think I carry a recessive Spanish gene somewhere, because I'm very big on hugs, dancing, jumping up and down with arms around each other at a rock concert, and so on. I'm not talking about romantic touch, but touch as communication. Not to mention, the friendly camaraderie of large groups. Hence "Spanish gene", since the Spanish culture is highly extroverted and touch-heavy, especially between members of the opposite sex. And right now, the CDC is telling us that such things will become a little more than historic relics (like streetcar tracks on old roads), or least will not return for years and years.

The CDC can shove its guidelines up its collective rectum! But if the things I loved aren't coming back anytime soon or possibly never, then where's my bus?
In my town, ironically, we still run streetcars on the tracks. My gut opinion: Your crowds and concerts will be back. You'll be able to hug those that want to be hugged. There will be a difference in the air, it will take years to fade. My guess is that things will lax and then get bad again next winter, until a vaccine is circulated. The larger concern will be the economy, and the general innocence we've all lost on just how easily the world can be taken away from us.
 
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In my town, ironically, we still run streetcars on the tracks. My gut opinion: Your crowds and concerts will be back. You'll be able to hug those that want to be hugged. There will be a difference in the air, it will take years to fade. My guess is that things will lax and then get bad again next winter, until a vaccine is circulated. The larger concern will be the economy, and the general innocence we've all lost on just how easily the world can be taken away from us.
The most messed-up thing is that it wasn't Corona that took away our livelihoods, freedoms, and innocence. It was the government! And in retaliation for "not taking Corona seriously" :meh: to boot. The general public bought into the government mantra. So now, everywhere I go, all I hear is "social distancing", "social distancing", "social distancing", which further rubs salt into the wound.

When do you think the concerts and the lively events be back? If it's 2021, then maybe the bus can wait. But if the society changed forever, and the only communication we'll ever have again is the virtual variety, then I want to CTB ASAP.

Either way, I want to write a letter to my state government, since I choose to blame them and the CDC for destroying my life. I'm sure they'll just snicker and throw it out, but it's no skin off my nose to send it, whether online or via USPS. Or if that letter makes it on the news, even better. Perhaps it'll dissuade the government from quarantine orders in the future; hey, a person can hope.
 
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The most messed-up thing is that it wasn't Corona that took away our livelihoods, freedoms, and innocence. It was the government! And in retaliation for "not taking Corona seriously" :meh: to boot. The general public bought into the government mantra. So now, everywhere I go, all I hear is "social distancing", "social distancing", "social distancing", which further rubs salt into the wound.

When do you think the concerts and the lively events be back? If it's 2021, then maybe the bus can wait. But if the society changed forever, and the only communication we'll ever have again is the virtual variety, then I want to CTB ASAP.

Either way, I want to write a letter to my state government, since I choose to blame them and the CDC for destroying my life. I'm sure they'll just snicker and throw it out, but it's no skin off my nose to send it, whether online or via USPS. Or if that letter makes it on the news, even better. Perhaps it'll dissuade the government from quarantine orders in the future; hey, a person can hope.
I think public events will be back in 2021.
 
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The bans WILL end. This is more y2k than 9/11. Of course there is a political element to social distancing, and it cannot work for EITHER side forever. Covid won't be much of a memory after November. Social isolation is lessening now and will be radically different in weeks in some areas. Give it time.
 
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@Aap: I lost hope that the quarantine will end in my state. I'm giving it until Memorial Day. I don't live in a levelheaded state like Georgia. There are also too many preachy types. You know, plastering their social media with the "stay home, it saves lives" meme (well, it ain't saving mine!), and shaking their finger at anyone even looking like they're enjoying life.

Funny that you said "November", because I do think it's political. I say 80% to 90% of the overreaction and the quarantine is politically motivated. Certain people are trying to wreck the economy and make people miserable on purpose, and they succeeded with me a little too well. (I hope I didn't violate any rules by posting that.)

Well, to borrow a pro-lifer meme and "have gratitude", I'm grateful my state didn't shut down liquor stores and tobacco shops. So it could be worse. I'd have to make bathtub gin, like people did 100 years ago.
 
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Yes, I used November for a reason. I don't know what state you are in, but the covid restrictions will, will end.

You mentioned a few things, isolation, hand wagging, covid anxiety. Which of those is the worst?
 
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Yes, I used November for a reason. I don't know what state you are in, but the covid restrictions will, will end.

You mentioned a few things, isolation, hand wagging, covid anxiety. Which of those is the worst?
This site is one of the few places I'm willing to admit it, but I'm not scared of getting Covid. It's a variant of a flu, that's not even strong enough to act as my bus. Just as many, if not more, people get the regular flu every year, and no one bats an eye. Covid got overhyped the way it was for all the wrong reasons, rather for anything related to public health. At least that's my opinion.

The government-forced isolation is definitely the main reason I want to CTB. I had a great social life, with fun outings, lively dances, rock concerts, convivial meals together in restaurants, and parties. And my state's government took everything away from me in less than 1 week, and did not give a proper end date. Not only that, CDC keeps saying that social distancing would need to continue for years, and intensify every winter. Forget that! I'd rather CTB. And maybe write a letter to my state legislature and/or governor, telling them I did that because of their rulings.

However, another big contributing factor are those "Stay at home. It saves lives." messages CDC keeps plastering on every billboard imaginable. They're literally everywhere; I can't escape them. Also, a lot of preachy people got in on the act, plastering their social medias with the "Stay the [F-word] home!!!" memes. They also forcefully insist on staying home "until a vaccine is ready", which could be well into 2021. So CTB'ing lets me escape these memes too. But for now, I simply muted most of my friends on social media.

"Saving lives", my ass!!! :angry: Although, if 10 lives are saved from staying home for every person like me who CTB's, it's still a net save of 9. Math can be macabre.
 
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Well, speaking of what news came out today? What did Rep Jim Jordan just tweet regarding the the attorney general Barr? Something to do.

while doing that, I might also go to YouTube and search for:
Dr. Erickson COVID-19 Briefing [Essential Cut]
 
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I mentioned in this post (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-do-you-want-to-ctb.32388/page-2#post-693301) that I want to CTB because of my state's social distancing rules, as well as CDC's federal social distancing rules. Even the phrase "social distancing" alone makes me want to CTB, since I know my state will try to prolong it as much as it can. Which explains my username, and makes the "stay home, it saves lives" meme highly ironic.

Before Corona broke out, I had a very active social life. I was out hanging out with people every weekend, and a few weeknights too. I always enjoyed it, even though some of those social connections were on the superficial side. That's where deep down inside, I realize that some of those people might not care that I CTB'ed, besides the usual mainstream pro-lifer reaction.

Anyway... what would happen if I wrote a letter to my ruling politician that I CTB'ed because of their social distancing orders? Like my state or US representative, my senator, my governor, or CDC's upper management. He, in fact, my governor's social distancing orders was what drove me to this site. What would happen if I wrote one or more of those politicians an angry but formally-worded letter that pretty much says: "hey, I CTB'ed because of you"?

I'm pretty sure they'd just snicker and toss my letter in the garbage, before sitting down to a group dinner with their colleagues. But what if they actually react?

Thoughts?
It's actually not the state that decided to tell everyone to distance. it is a thing they reluctantly have to do because if people don't do it, the virus will spread and kill a lot more vulnerable people. We are already overwhelming hospitals because so many people didn't follow the quarantine rules so now we have to do it even longer. I'm sure the politicians don't want to do this either -- they have to suffer through it, too. This is just a fact of epidemiology. If you CTB it will be because the situation in the world right now fucking sucks, and it's nobody's fault, it just sucks. It's just biology. Don't mistake this for a pro-life response. I'm still very much in favor of the right to CTB for whatever reason you want. I would just correct your logic a bit and say that the state doesn't like this any more than we do -- governments are made of people. Blame coronavirus.

It's still shitty. it's still really awful that we've all been cut off from resources that can help us.
 
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