Would You/Would You Have CTB on the Brink of WW1/2/3?

[watchingthewheels]

"Flight, fight, freeze": Would you, or would you have, CTB at the onset of a major world war, if it was inevitable?

Here I am, sitting here, fretting about the option of this job interview vs. CTB instead...meanwhile, it looks as if WW3 is a very real possibility, at the moment.
Kinda puts my problems into perspective, in the larger scheme of things. Not that they don't matter (and I always resented that idea of "I was sad because I had no shoes, but then I met someone who had no legs"); quite the opposite, they are intertwined, not just for me, but for most of us, as this will have an effect both now and for years to come.

It got me thinking about the question in the poll. Without getting into choosing sides in this, or attacking others over specific beliefs and political views, I'd rather keep the poll more abstract, to cover whatever side one falls on (since, here, if we're about to CTB, it's moot, in the end, there's ultimately only "the other side", whatever that may be...)

So, if you were on the brink of a world war, would you CTB? Would you fight for "your side" (regardless of what side it is), would it give you something to fight for, and possibly kill/die for, would you live to protect others? Or would you CTB before the SHTF? Would you have no one to fight for? Would you be unable to choose a side? Would you refuse to fight on religious/ideological grounds?

All questions one would have to ask themselves, and many here would probably have different reasons and views. But instead of fighting about them here, I'd just rather focus on the one theme that "unites" us here: that we're all mostly on the bring of CTB, anyway, and have considered that option beforehand. Would this be enough of a catalyst to settle any doubts and fears and overcome SI?

 

[Depressed Cat]

I guess I will postpone my CTB and fight in any way I can for the side that stands for liberty, freedoms, democracy, respects human rights and individual liberties etc. and fight against evil dictators, mafiocrats, tyrants, despots, juntas and other criminal regimes.

Of course, I may die while fighting, but I was going to CTB anyway, right? So why not die in the process of making the world a better place for the rest of humankind to live in?

Yeah, I may have to give up a relatively painless way of exiting the world (SN) and die painfully of war wounds, but that's something I can overcome by making myself feel that at least the pain before my death is for a worthy cause.

 

[gr1lledcheese]

"Flight, fight, freeze": Would you, or would you have, CTB at the onset of a major world war, if it was inevitable?

Here I am, sitting here, fretting about the option of this job interview vs. CTB instead...meanwhile, it looks as if WW3 is a very real possibility, at the moment.
Kinda puts my problems into perspective, in the larger scheme of things. Not that they don't matter (and I always resented that idea of "I was sad because I had no shoes, but then I met someone who had no legs"); quite the opposite, they are intertwined, not just for me, but for most of us, as this will have an effect both now and for years to come.

It got me thinking about the question in the poll. Without getting into choosing sides in this, or attacking others over specific beliefs and political views, I'd rather keep the poll more abstract, to cover whatever side one falls on (since, here, if we're about to CTB, it's moot, in the end, there's ultimately only "the other side", whatever that may be...)

So, if you were on the brink of a world war, would you CTB? Would you fight for "your side" (regardless of what side it is), would it give you something to fight for, and possibly kill/die for, would you live to protect others? Or would you CTB before the SHTF? Would you have no one to fight for? Would you be unable to choose a side? Would you refuse to fight on religious/ideological grounds?

All questions one would have to ask themselves, and many here would probably have different reasons and views. But instead of fighting about them here, I'd just rather focus on the one theme that "unites" us here: that we're all mostly on the bring of CTB, anyway, and have considered that option beforehand. Would this be enough of a catalyst to settle any doubts and fears and overcome SI?

Speaking as a middle aged woman in the US, I wouldn't be called on to fight. I do sometimes despair of the state my country is in, and fear we're heading towards civil war.
My decision to ctb is based on my personal life issues. If my country goes to war in support of Ukraine, I might still ctb, but my reason wouldn't have anything to do with the war.

 

[TakeMeBack07]

I definitely do not want to fight for Britain or the US.
Maybe if I felt more connected to the West, this country and community, but I don't and never have.
Realistically, my life is nothing anyway in the fight for freedom, democracy and all that stuff.

 

[Rational man]

The prospect of being blown up by a rocket before i ctb has become a real possibility in my mind. The strange thing is i don't care about me. Im concerned about people who want to live. I dont see how the situation ends well because Putin will now be held to account .

 

[TakeMeBack07]

The prospect of being blown up by a rocket before i ctb has become a real possibility in my mind. The strange thing is i don't care about me. Im concerned about people who want to live. I dont see how the situation ends well because Putin will now be held to account .

Why would you want to fight for those who don't care about you?

 

[YourNeighbor]

Why would you want to fight for those who don't care about you?

How about fighting against those who prey on the weak? Seems like a no-brainer for any suicidal person who has been abused, bullied, etc. before.

 

[TakeMeBack07]

How about fighting against those who prey on the weak? Seems like a no-brainer for any suicidal person who has been abused, bullied, etc. before.

Either way, the impact you and I would have on a war would be nothing.
Also most conflicts aren't that simple.

 

[Sherri]

I would run away and claim asylum like everyone else does.

 

[Heartaches]

It'd make me lose more faith in the world as it would paint bleaker picture of our future, but I highly doubt I'd ctb as a result of it.
My country has historically remained neutral to these conflicts and hasn't been involved deeply, so it wouldn't affect as much I suppose.

However, I'd like to support those who are more vulnerable if possible. Not in combat, I wouldn't be able and I hate it, but donating, providing food, shelter, clothes, etc. I could. I'm not the best with people or keeping uo with current events in all honesty, but there's a part of me that always feels the need to help out others and listen to them.

 

[NSA]

If i was being drafted into WWI and I knew about the conditions in the trenches, I probably would.

If I was a citizen of an Axis country in WWII being forced to fight for that side, I might do it too. I also might hold out hope I could fight the good fight from within somehow too though.

If I was living in the Ukraine now it would definetly be on the table. Same if I was some random Russian soldier who only joined the army for scholarship money or something.

But I'm an American with almost zero chance of being drafted or having this war affect me in any meaningful way, so nah.

I feel awful for everyone caught in this shit. I wish I had the power to help. May this end with Putin's head on a pike.

.

 

[YourNeighbor]

Either way, the impact you and I would have on a war would be nothing.
Also most conflicts aren't that simple.

Most conflicts aren't that simple perhaps, but many are. The one we're seeing now is, for example.

And if thousands of suicidal folks had organized and chosen CTB by killing Nazis as a method (since we're purely in the land of hypotheticals), who knows if the course of WWII couldn't have been affected somewhat. In any case, a much better death than puking SN alone in some motel.

 

[Ada]

I was rejected from the armed forces for being mentally ill.

 

[watchingthewheels]

I'm seeing reports of wounded and dead in Ukraine, already. My heart goes out to the people there (and here).

 

[Pain In The Ass]

"Flight, fight, freeze": Would you, or would you have, CTB at the onset of a major world war, if it was inevitable?

Here I am, sitting here, fretting about the option of this job interview vs. CTB instead...meanwhile, it looks as if WW3 is a very real possibility, at the moment.
Kinda puts my problems into perspective, in the larger scheme of things. Not that they don't matter (and I always resented that idea of "I was sad because I had no shoes, but then I met someone who had no legs"); quite the opposite, they are intertwined, not just for me, but for most of us, as this will have an effect both now and for years to come.

It got me thinking about the question in the poll. Without getting into choosing sides in this, or attacking others over specific beliefs and political views, I'd rather keep the poll more abstract, to cover whatever side one falls on (since, here, if we're about to CTB, it's moot, in the end, there's ultimately only "the other side", whatever that may be...)

So, if you were on the brink of a world war, would you CTB? Would you fight for "your side" (regardless of what side it is), would it give you something to fight for, and possibly kill/die for, would you live to protect others? Or would you CTB before the SHTF? Would you have no one to fight for? Would you be unable to choose a side? Would you refuse to fight on religious/ideological grounds?

All questions one would have to ask themselves, and many here would probably have different reasons and views. But instead of fighting about them here, I'd just rather focus on the one theme that "unites" us here: that we're all mostly on the bring of CTB, anyway, and have considered that option beforehand. Would this be enough of a catalyst to settle any doubts and fears and overcome SI?

I doubt we'd be 'called up' to fight like we used to be. I'd at least be interested to see how bad things got first. If we got invaded by an enemy that wanted to send us to work camps, I'd probably get all of my CTB stuff out and offer it to my Mum, Dad and brothers first so they could CTB rather painlessly, then jump off the town church spire myself - 104 meters should do the job!

 

[Nolan96]

I'd be worthless in a war.

It'd be a series of questions like this:
Do I support the side I'm on? (Not impossible but probably not. Definitely wouldn't want to have to pick a side in WW1 or 2, or in a hypothetical war between the US and Russia.)
Am I worth more to my side or at least my loved ones alive and doing what I can, or dead and not taking up resources?
Do I have access to CTB methods that are at least more painless than how I will suffer/die due to the war?

 

[hungry_ghost]

I plan on being martyred at some point if natural causes doesn't take me out first.

 

[myopybyproxy]

world war three is not an if, it is a when.

and i would rather have died long before it came up the horizon, but as it's upon us - sooner the better. so yes - but not necessarily because of the war. it is only one factor in our ridiculous and fucked up society that contributes to my suicidality aside from personal weakness.

 

[Al Cappella]

I'm too old, the army wouldn't want me. And, even if this does turn global, no one's likely to invade Canada. Not that the Russians wouldn't be sending cruise missiles over our heads at the US. But. Give me a gun and I'm going in. The beauty of knowing your life is done—you don't give a fuck. I wouldn't care if the bullets were flying—I'd bloody shoot back. And I wouldn't have to worry about N or anything else like that. A bullet will do just fine. Just no napalm or nerve gas…urgh…

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I like to think I could have been wrapped up in enough propaganda for either WWI or WWII to let myself enlist but the truth is I'm a coward so I'd probably find a way out of it. As it stands now I don't think I'd be eligible for direct combat due to being diabetic and even if they make me do something administrative, I'd be too stupid for that and any nation with me on its side would probably be better off if I didn't fight for them. It's sheer coincidence that I plan to CTB this year and nothing to do with anything else going on in the world.

 

[Made4TV]

I like the idea of suicide by "fighting evil" but realistically, with my luck, I'd just end up with a TBI or no limbs left to kill myself with.

 

[HappyForever?]

Probably. I'm likely to be drafted due to my age, and the chance of dying a horrible painful death in a war is very high.

 

[LastFlowers]

How about fighting against those who prey on the weak? Seems like a no-brainer for any suicidal person who has been abused, bullied, etc. before.

I see what you're saying but I doubt the targeted population is that black and white, probably an abundance of bullies among them, like anywhere.
(Quite terrible for the rest of us to just sit back and treat them like a lost cause though.)
I know if my own country were being invaded, I wouldn't be itching to take up arms for these assholes, I'd be more likely to fight for my own sake out of a sheer "last hurrah" or I would sit back and let the chaos and death take me down with it.
Either way, I'd be counting on dying.

I like the idea of suicide by "fighting evil" but realistically, with my luck, I'd just end up with a TBI or no limbs left to kill myself with.

Yea that would be my concern.

Speaking as a middle aged woman in the US, I wouldn't be called on to fight. I do sometimes despair of the state my country is in, and fear we're heading towards civil war.
My decision to ctb is based on my personal life issues. If my country goes to war in support of Ukraine, I might still ctb, but my reason wouldn't have anything to do with the war.

Is the drafting process still exclusive to men?
For some reason I thought that would no longer be the case. It's not as if there's much hand to hand combat anymore.

 

[Chiisai]

"Flight, fight, freeze": Would you, or would you have, CTB at the onset of a major world war, if it was inevitable?

Here I am, sitting here, fretting about the option of this job interview vs. CTB instead...meanwhile, it looks as if WW3 is a very real possibility, at the moment.
Kinda puts my problems into perspective, in the larger scheme of things. Not that they don't matter (and I always resented that idea of "I was sad because I had no shoes, but then I met someone who had no legs"); quite the opposite, they are intertwined, not just for me, but for most of us, as this will have an effect both now and for years to come.

It got me thinking about the question in the poll. Without getting into choosing sides in this, or attacking others over specific beliefs and political views, I'd rather keep the poll more abstract, to cover whatever side one falls on (since, here, if we're about to CTB, it's moot, in the end, there's ultimately only "the other side", whatever that may be...)

So, if you were on the brink of a world war, would you CTB? Would you fight for "your side" (regardless of what side it is), would it give you something to fight for, and possibly kill/die for, would you live to protect others? Or would you CTB before the SHTF? Would you have no one to fight for? Would you be unable to choose a side? Would you refuse to fight on religious/ideological grounds?

All questions one would have to ask themselves, and many here would probably have different reasons and views. But instead of fighting about them here, I'd just rather focus on the one theme that "unites" us here: that we're all mostly on the bring of CTB, anyway, and have considered that option beforehand. Would this be enough of a catalyst to settle any doubts and fears and overcome SI?

Hmm... If I can make better use of my life while still living, Id fight knowing there's a chance of death rather than just CTB. That itself is CTB anyway.

I see what you're saying but I doubt the targeted population is that black and white, probably an abundance of bullies among them, like anywhere.
(Quite terrible for the rest of us to just sit back and treat them like a lost cause though.)
I know if my own country were being invaded, I wouldn't be itching to take up arms for these assholes, I'd be more likely to fight for my own sake out of a sheer "last hurrah" or I would sit back and let the chaos and death take me down with it.
Either way, I'd be counting on dying.

Yea that would be my concern.

Is the drafting process still exclusive to men?
For some reason I thought that would no longer be the case. It's not as if there's much hand to hand combat anymore.

There's still the concern of physical demands however, if the drafting is really desperate for additional conscripts it is highly possible.

 

[DarkNearDeath]

"Flight, fight, freeze": Would you, or would you have, CTB at the onset of a major world war, if it was inevitable?

Here I am, sitting here, fretting about the option of this job interview vs. CTB instead...meanwhile, it looks as if WW3 is a very real possibility, at the moment.
Kinda puts my problems into perspective, in the larger scheme of things. Not that they don't matter (and I always resented that idea of "I was sad because I had no shoes, but then I met someone who had no legs"); quite the opposite, they are intertwined, not just for me, but for most of us, as this will have an effect both now and for years to come.

It got me thinking about the question in the poll. Without getting into choosing sides in this, or attacking others over specific beliefs and political views, I'd rather keep the poll more abstract, to cover whatever side one falls on (since, here, if we're about to CTB, it's moot, in the end, there's ultimately only "the other side", whatever that may be...)

So, if you were on the brink of a world war, would you CTB? Would you fight for "your side" (regardless of what side it is), would it give you something to fight for, and possibly kill/die for, would you live to protect others? Or would you CTB before the SHTF? Would you have no one to fight for? Would you be unable to choose a side? Would you refuse to fight on religious/ideological grounds?

All questions one would have to ask themselves, and many here would probably have different reasons and views. But instead of fighting about them here, I'd just rather focus on the one theme that "unites" us here: that we're all mostly on the bring of CTB, anyway, and have considered that option beforehand. Would this be enough of a catalyst to settle any doubts and fears and overcome SI?

I'm fretting about facing university failure vs ctb

 

[TakeMeBack07]

Most conflicts aren't that simple perhaps, but many are. The one we're seeing now is, for example.

And if thousands of suicidal folks had organized and chosen CTB by killing Nazis as a method (since we're purely in the land of hypotheticals), who knows if the course of WWII couldn't have been affected somewhat. In any case, a much better death than puking SN alone in some motel.

Ukraine-Russia conflict is anything but simple bro.
I'm not sure what to believe these days. Media is controlled on both sides.

 

[Dayrain]

As you wrote being on the brink of a WW doesn't really exist.

 

[ClownW0rld]

There's more to this war than meets the eye. Propaganda is an essential component to any war effort. What you hear about this war is likely not true. I'm not a fan of Putin, but I'm not a fan of the West either. They are both players in the same game. They both have an equal amount of skeletons in their closet.

 

[liz!!!!!]

i'm a history buff, so i more or less understand what i'd be getting into.. but, considering the person i am now,, uh. i'm not really sure where i'd even fit in? so i guess maybe the answer is i would have been long gone because i don't think i see another outcome...but thinking about it more i'm not sure it'd be because of something i'd do to myself necessarily

 

[Lost in a Dream]

Absolutely! If a third world war was starting now, it would definitely give me the push I need to get out the SN & glasses and drink myself into oblivion. It's been feeling like such a war has been just around the corner for a long time, but it hasn't actually started yet. It probably will soon though.