Discussion Would you still consider suicide if things got better?

[Hercules]

No. If it was possible for things to get better, I wouldn't even consider suicide.

 

[Enoughnow]

I'd have to have a lottery win and my abusive ex dead so I know I'm free from him for ever and he can never hurt me again to not kill myself

 

[outrider567]

Girlfriend dead and gone, I will be too

 

[Beer]

If things got better yeah I'd stop being suicidal, at least for the time being. I want to enjoy life, just unable to

 

[Passersby]

Let's pretend for a sec I live in a fairy tale reality with a bran new body and mind that is immaculate with ample amounts of money. In this scenario then no I wouldn't immediately die. I probably would live life out at least until around 60. I would still most likely ctb sometime around old age.

Now let's go to the only reality we know which is this one, the one we woke up in without any say. Things cant get better and if they did then I would still want to ctb due to various other factors I listed in another thread.

 

[want2dienow]

Probably, because I do not desire a false salvation.
Or to die old and crippled. It's a choice to live and it's a choice to die.

 

[Sick of it all]

I'd still want to go because I know there is more misery waiting for me eventually. I'm 44 and have had the thoughts as far back as I can remember. I know that as good as things get, they are always worse in the end. Life is a drag and I want to get off of this ride.

 

[AloneInCollege]

Yeah probably. For starters I can't reverse the past, and that's where a lot of my pain comes from. And also I was thinking about this question recently. I am finally getting out of a major depressive episode that lasted, god, probably like 5 months now. And I think I've decided that I'm still going to ctb. I'm just going to wait until things go really right or really wrong for me. Then my life will have some kind of a climax or finality.

 

[nameeater]

Yes.

The majority of my suicide attempts have impulsive and caused by my BPD. If I were to recover from that (& my other mental illnesses), I'd instead be able to go through with a well thought out plan which would be much more likely to be successful. The main reason I want to CTB is because of my autism and unlike some would have you believe, there's no fixing that.

 

[wanttodie]

no im sick of life and living I want to die

 

[IWTD]

I've always thought about this question since I started falling into depression. I came across many answers but personally, even if things got better I'd still want to leave this place.
there are so many hardships, wars, and evil that people go through on a daily basis that it makes me wonder if our existence is even worth it. wealthy people control this world, and the rest suffer to even make ends meet. even the idea of God sounds sadistic to me

Things have been good, things have been bad. I've always felt the same. I personally think this place is hell.

No, because for that to happen the world has to change. Im just sick of all the injustice of the liars the cheaters the abusers and of the competition. This life is just so cruel and unfair. Only if i coule switch places with a very handsome social intelligent man i would maybe want to live, as people would treat me with respect and women would love me. I would be at the top of the competition.

Even they catch the bus

 

[notthatfanatik]

I would. Things getting better wouldnt replace the feeling completly, only on the surface and for a while maybe

 

[Euthanza]

If it gets better, it means I will get better suicide circumstances, that's it.

 

[a_dead_mess]

If it gets better, it means I will get better suicide circumstances, that's it.

that's one way to think about it

Yeah probably. For starters I can't reverse the past, and that's where a lot of my pain comes from. And also I was thinking about this question recently. I am finally getting out of a major depressive episode that lasted, god, probably like 5 months now. And I think I've decided that I'm still going to ctb. I'm just going to wait until things go really right or really wrong for me. Then my life will have some kind of a climax or finality.

that's the thing, the statement "things will get better" proposed by pro-lifers basically means "you should continue suffering for god knows how long just because things MIGHT eventually get better". that's contradictory to human logic because we get out of suffering and endure another so as I proposed earlier, one needs to be a god so that he can control everything in his world. his upbringing, his friends, what suffering he decides to go through (if any), etc.
it's a pretty complicated topic Philosophically if you ask me.

 

[Fall.and.Shatter]

Depends on how much better it gets I suppose.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I hate that i need unrealistic scenarios to happen in order to get what I want from life.

 

[a_dead_mess]

I hate that i need unrealistic scenarios to happen in order to get what I want from life.

don't we all

 

[Messgram]

No

 

[lithium_flower]

"Better" is always temporary..

 

[eve2004]

For things to be "better", I'd have to stop being chronically suicidal 24/7 first, maybe I'd consider living. What gets me is I have no motivation to do/start anything since in my head, I'm going to CTB. Feels like I'm stuck in a chicken-egg cycle.

 

[GhostNote]

I want to die due multiple medical conditions related to my ears. Mainly severe pain hyperacusis, but I also have bilateral tinnitus, bilateral pulsatile tinnitus, patulous Eustachian in the right ear and BPPV on the right side. A lot would have to get better to make life manageable, but if it did then I'd want to live and be with my children.

 

[ge0rge]

not unless the dead can rise. any necromancers on here hmu

 

[NoSerendipity ♡]

I probably would stay away from making any suicide plans for a while, yeah. But I don't know, a lot of my reasons to ctb aren't about me being cornered by life or feeling vindictive about our society. For me, it's moreso debating if someone like me is truly fit for this world. I've always felt like I was born defective (and I guess that is technically true, as I am mentally ill). I have always cried easily and often, hated my appearance, and struggled heavily to socialize with fellow human beings for my entire life. I don't feel fit for this world at all. I don't think it was made for someone as graceless as myself, and although gracelessness is not an impossible feat to live with, being mentally ill makes it so much harder to function. So even if my situation improved, my underlying feelings of disbelonging and inadequacy may not change. So I feel like that all those blessings that may be bestowed upon me; sudden riches, amazing career, amazing boyfriend; would all just be a waste. I would rather have the pleasure of giving the gift of fortune to someone else. There may be something screwed up with me, but all I want to do is save someone else.

 

[Final-push123]

If it was possible for climate to be fix and that life as we know it wouldn't go extinct as well as destroying the system that causes it.

Then yeah I wouldn't CtB, but the fact that we are in a 6th mass extinction event is a pretty good reason for me to catch that bus

 

[notlongnow]

There's one element of my life that deteriorated rapidly which in all honesty sent me sideways, but it also made me re-evaluate other issues. The one's i chose to ignore and could happily function in society while relentlessly brushing them under the carpet. A fraudulent existence with no credible way of living beyond a certain age. Maybe the demise was a blessing in disguise! I look at it that way.

 

[existentialgoof]

I'd want the option, no matter what the future brought for me. In my opinion, suicide is never irrational from the perspective of one's own self-interest, because once you're dead, you don't have any needs or desires to be satisfied. Therefore even if you could have been enjoying being alive, it still isn't a bad thing (for you) that you are dead and have foreclosed upon that future

 

[brokensea]

I would want to live if I got pregnant and could have a child and wasn't led on and mentally abused and abandoned by my ex who was going to have a child with me in my last year to have a child before I was too old and my chances dropped dramatically, now at 1 percent of any chance for me to have a child. He did such terrible things to me and dragged things on with false hopes wasting so much of the precious time I had left to try for a baby and then left me.

I'll never have a family and the normal life I wanted. I will grow old alone and have no one visit me in some dumpy low income senior place I'll end up with. All my friends having moved on.

So if my terrible ex was the person they pretended to be and we were together with a family then I would not want to die but he destroyed the last hope and dream of my life and broke my heart when I couldn't manage if it happened again.

I wanted to commit suicide many times but I kept telling myself someday I'll have a family and someone who loves me and life won't be like this. That thought kept me alive for years of unimaginable hell. I was also abused at 14 and forced into an abortion and lied to. Left alone and I hoped to have a child someday.

So this world has crushed the last of my dreams and I kept living for no reason all this time. It was just another final sick joke the universe played on me. I wish I had died long ago so I never had to see this day.

 

[thedaywillcome]

They cant because I am aborn failure,

 

[VKVK]

no but they most probably wont
ive lost control of my mind. all i think about is that there'll be an end and that end is me dying because im in so much emotional pain and its only sometimes it gets A BIT better with a drop of care from my family. im a socially isolated neet and my family secretly despises me. we barely even talk. im dead inside

 

[IanUK]

I've always thought about this question since I started falling into depression. I came across many answers but personally, even if things got better I'd still want to leave this place.
there are so many hardships, wars, and evil that people go through on a daily basis that it makes me wonder if our existence is even worth it. wealthy people control this world, and the rest suffer to even make ends meet. even the idea of God sounds sadistic to me

Very good question but no - I have good and bad days weeks and even months but I think about suicide daily. For years I really agonised about it so I started to source and gradually accumulate opioids. I now have enough to kill me. I do have very bad days but at the moment I have a dependant situation so I have decided to see that through. I think for me the world is doing it for me. As our civilisation collapses week by week - shops being openly looted, people being murdered, wars, the so called measures required to "save the planet" and the build back better and great reset con is creating a world in which I no longer belong or have any desire to be part of. I've been out of step with humanity most if my life but now I'm so far out of step living gets more challenging every day.