Help Would letting blood out with catheter work?

[Schizophreniac]

method: put a catheter in iv

i googled it but not much information about this method was available
one information i got is that the needle clogs and it would take about 8 hours to drain all blood

but if i take enough aspirin and use big gague needle would it work?

 

[Spitfire]

I have seen a guy brought in post cardiac cath bleed out and die.

He was bleeding at home when the site broke. He was fully alive at the beginning of the 5 - 10 minutes it took for his family to drive him to the hospital. He was as close to dead on arrival as they come; unresponsive, white as a sheet, clammy, with no palpable pulses.

The femoral artery in the groin region would be the best choice if you are truly wanting to try this, in my opinion.

 

[Meditation guide]

I have seen a guy brought in post cardiac cath bleed out and die.

Really! I refused to have a cardiac catheterization but maybe I would be so lucky as him.

 

[Spitfire]

Really! I refused to have a cardiac catheterization but maybe I would be so lucky as him.

Who really knows?

Maybe the guy had these same types of feelings? He could have taken all of his Plavix or Coumadin, and downed a bottle of aspirin that day?

There was soo many people dying there. We never followed up on very many of them to find out the total reasons, aside from certain types of cases we were interested in knowing.

 

[Meditation guide]

There was soo many people dying there.

Did a lot of people die when they had that procedure? I heard that is the most painful part of it for the patient, where they cut the artery in the groin. They would probably do it on my wrist maybe.

 

[Spitfire]

Well, I was in the emergency department. We would rush them down there to the lab within 15 minutes of STEMI confirmation. The whole cath lab team wasn't there at night. They had to be called in.. We and an in-house cath lab designee would be in there prepping them for a few minutes immediately after the transport, but just until the full cath team was there and ready.

Maybe it was because of the crushing chest pains and overall excitement they were having, but the people on the table did not seem to mind it one bit when the radial or femoral was entered into.

I think it is a pretty highly successful procedure. I left them there and did not worry about it after that.

 

[Meditation guide]

The whole cath lab team wasn't there at night

I didn't know they did that on emergency basis. That is quite a thing to go through in an emergency.

 

[Spitfire]

It is a well oiled machine taking place all of the time. Heart attacks don't have schedules, Lol

method: put a catheter in iv

i googled it but not much information about this method was available
one information i got is that the needle clogs and it would take about 8 hours to drain all blood

but if i take enough aspirin and use big gague needle would it work?

Are you able to get ahold of some prescription blood thinners? They would augment this method in a good way...

 

[Meditation guide]

It is a well oiled machine taking place all of the time.

I have no doubt at all that our ER where I live would ignore someone and let them die.

 

[Spitfire]

I have no doubt at all that our ER where I live would ignore someone and let them die.

Unfortunately, I can understand the truth of what you just said. For the people wanting to be living (or treated properly) they would literally be driving 2, 3, or even 4 or more hours to come to a few of the ER's I worked at due to them saying the same thing. I always worked in regional level 1 trauma centers. Those types of hospitals ussually have just about everything and every specialist needed for all of those things.

 

[Cherrypea]

Well, I was in the emergency department. We would rush them down there to the lab within 15 minutes of STEMI confirmation. The whole cath lab team wasn't there at night. They had to be called in.. We and an in-house cath lab designee would be in there prepping them for a few minutes immediately after the transport, but just until the full cath team was there and ready.

Maybe it was because of the crushing chest pains and overall excitement they were having, but the people on the table did not seem to mind it one bit when the radial or femoral was entered into.

I think it is a pretty highly successful procedure. I left them there and did not worry about it after that.

I'm a nurse and used to work in a cath lab doing primary pci. Lots and lots of blood!
As for the question yes you can quickly bleed out from the femoral artery, it's quite easy to feel in your groin and a large bore cannula should do it.

 

[Spitfire]

I bet there are a lot of us nurses hanging around this suicide thing.

To put it in perspective. I forget the newer unit that was being phased in for what it was called. But I am sure you might know of a level 1 rapid infuser?

That thing can pump in liters of fluid into the femoral VEIN in a minute, maybe takes two...

 

[Cherrypea]

I bet there are a lot of us nurses hanging around this suicide thing.

To put it in perspective. I forget the newer unit that was being phased in for what it was called. But I am sure you might know of a level 1 rapid infuser?

That thing can pump in liters of fluid into the femoral VEIN in a minute, maybe takes two...

Actually no but I left about 5 years ago (got fed up with on call and wanky work colleagues) and work in pre assessment now. Which is harder than I expected! I do miss the lab though. Which country are you in?

 

[Spitfire]

Actually no but I left about 5 years ago (got fed up with on call and wanky work colleagues) and work in pre assessment now. Which is harder than I expected! I do miss the lab though. Which country are you in?

I am in th USA... The great 'ol U, S, of A!

I am proud of my Country, but a little embarrased at the same time, at the moment we find ourselves in.

They took my license away from me to make it inactive status.. bc I attempted to suicide three years ago. So, I do not practice anymore after 17yrs of emergency work.

 

[Cherrypea]

I am in th USA... The great 'ol U, S, of A!

I am proud of my Country, but a little embarrased at the same time, at the moment we find ourselves in.

They took my license away from me to make it inactive status.. bc I attempted to suicide three years ago. So, I do not practice anymore after 17yrs of emergency work.

I'm a little embarrassed of the UK at the moment too.
That's a shame, sounds like you know your stuff.

 

[Spitfire]

There is not a way for me to explain how much I loved my job working as an emergency nurse. It was soo much more than a job to me.

The impacts of my suicide sure did a number for me on how I identified with myself.

I did die. The EMT's performed actual CPR on me during the ride in, and I was revived by my former coworkers in the emergency department where I was working at the time. I don't know that I flatlined? The report, and my er nurse friends said, it was "insufficient cardiac activity necessary to sustain life".

I found out that I have Wilsons Disease sometime afterwards, which explains a lot... I do not need, and should not be allowed to have other people's lives in my hands like that anymore, because of the effects of the disease.

I am sorry to the original poster if this is hijacking of your thread. I hope you talk some here, if you wanted?