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xLosthopex

xLosthopex

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Anyone know?
I'm just picturing headlines and news readers saying things like "The body of a young woman was discovered in a hotel in X location" which, for my family's sake I wouldn't really want

Do you think if it's obvious it was a ctb and not, for example, a homicide i.e. leaving notes for the staff etc. it would be less likely? Or is it inevitable ?
 
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Shadowplay

Shadowplay

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No I don't think so. I was thinking of doing this as someone else who was gunna CTB mentioend using a hotel. Now I live alone I wont need to. Also there are serious restrictions about the reporting of suicide.
 
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phoenixx

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I thought about this too. I do see news articles about people who have committed suicide, including people in my city. I see them a couple of times a week at least. So I'm not sure, it depends where you live I guess.
 
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I thought about this too. I do see news articles about people who have committed suicide, including people in my city. I see them a couple of times a week at least. So I'm not sure, it depends where you live I guess.

Yeah same here, it's very hard to know
I wonder why some ctb's get reported and others don't ?
Like obvs we hear "A body was found…." on the news all the time, and I guess they're not gonna know for sure once the police investigation, autopsy, coroners report etc. are conducted that it was a ctb, so that's why I worry that it could be all over the National news/media :notsure:
 
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Yeah same here, it's very hard to know
I wonder why some ctb's get reported and others don't ?
Like obvs we hear "A body was found…." on the news all the time, and I guess they're not gonna know for sure once the police investigation, autopsy, coroners report etc. are conducted that it was a ctb, so that's why I worry that it could be all over the National news/media :notsure:

Yeah that is good question I cannot answer. I don't know anywhere near enough about the news to answer that.
Could be a literal 'slow news day'. lol
 
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Ironweed

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Maybe. In the US there's nothing to prevent naming the suicide of an adult, but there might be in other countries. And even in the US there's nothing requiring the death be reported. A place like New York City the suicide would probably have to be something spectacular like those people who jumped off that giant sculpture. But a quiet death in hotel room would likely pass unnoticed, assuming it isn't a celebrity. There's always just too much else going on.

I also can't imagine any hotel is gonna be in any big rush to be in the news for a body turning up in Room 217 (inside joke for Stephen King fans).

What the US does have are these incoherent "guidelines," about not detailing the method, not "assigning blame" (whatever that might mean), etc., but nothing suggesting you can't or shouldn't name an adult who killed themselves.
 
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UK here.

Tends to only make the news in my town if it causes some sort of disruption, or causes a scene to other members of the public e.g. someone standing on top of a roof, shouting and screaming, footpaths/roads having to be closed, trains having to be cancelled... That sort of thing. Maybe if they can't identify the person also.
 
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ItsTimeToExit

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.... that's why I worry that it could be all over the National news/media :notsure:
This is unlikely unless the events leading up to your death makes for a good story.

If you die in the most boring way possible then you're just another statistic. Dress up nicely, be groomed and cleaned, leave a note explaining the situation so that the Garda do not expect foul play and it should be all good.

Maybe avoid a super expensive Hotel?
 
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Thanks for everyone's replies!

Another thing I'm wondering also is would ctb'ing in a hotel impact business for that hotel negatively?
 
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It depends on the country / community which you're living in.
Even if they report the case, they may hide the person's identity.
 
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Thanks for everyone's replies!

Another thing I'm wondering also is would ctb'ing in a hotel impact business for that hotel negatively?

F*ck I hadn't even considered that. I doubt it - they will just quietly call the cops and keep thigns under wraps. Maybe happens often?

Unless you start haunting the place like in 'The Shining' - that might be different... :-)
 
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F*ck I hadn't even considered that. I doubt it - they will just quietly call the cops and keep thigns under wraps. Maybe happens often?

Unless you start haunting the place like in 'The Shining' - that might be different... :-)

The Shining is exactly what I was thinking about :))
 
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The Shining is exactly what I was thinking about :))

Funny I was watching the bit in 'Ghost Ship' that shamelessly rips off 'The Shining'.

But seriously I can't see it making the news unless you did something waaayyy out.
 
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BrokenArrow

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It's definitely possible, as it's newsworthy and makes for a sensational story. BUT I believe they have to wait for the inquest to first be completed by the coroner to determine the actual cause of death before they can do any reporting.

I'm leaving a note addressed to 'The coroner/Law-Enforcement' stating that I took my own life out of free-will, no other party was involved or responsible, all chemicals were purchased lawfully by myself and will also explicitly state that any journalists present at the inquest will NEED to consult and gain the verbal permission of my family members before reporting ANY personal details about the event (my name/age etc etc).

Of course, there's nothing stopping them from just reporting it anyway, but it would be a pretty shitty/unethical/disrespectful move on the journalists' part

Things get messy legally when they're not sure if it was a murder or suicide and often this is when journalists start reporting, as it's 'mysterious' and interesting. I'm handwriting and signing my letter to the coroner and mentioning a bunch of times how it was a suicide due to poor mental health, nobody else was involved etc, and hopefully this diminishes the likelihood of journalists becoming attracted to the situation
 
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I can't see it being newsworthy unless it was some crazy death.
 
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I can't see it being newsworthy unless it was some crazy death.
Do you think N would be a newsworthy death? Like how there have been more and more news articles about SN ctb's, like I wonder could it lead to media coverage insofar as speculation as to how the substance was acquired etc. due to its illegality and how difficult it is to obtain
 
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It shouldn't but there's always a small chance. The last thing a hotel wants for its reputation (especially one part of a hotel chain) is that one of their guests committed suicide in one of their rooms (that they are going to start renting out again after the fact likely a few days later).

You can minimize the risk of law enforcement thinking it was a suspicious death by leaving a note that says "I committed suicide by pentobarbital overdose on my own accord with no foul play involved" with your signature.
 
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Suicides don't make the news unless your name is Epstein or if they suspect it might be a homicide. Sometimes they'll interview family members who have lost someone to suicide to bring awareness to the cause, like for example a teenage girl being bullied online. It's the family's decision to make it public, the deceased doesn't have a say in it, unfortunately. I've never seen any breaking news announcing someone killing themselves. Suicide is frowned upon in society so the last thing the media wants to do is to sensationalize it and give other people any ideas. Just make sure you leave a suicide note with the number of the family member you want the authorities to contact.
 
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Do you think N would be a newsworthy death? Like how there have been more and more news articles about SN ctb's, like I wonder could it lead to media coverage insofar as speculation as to how the substance was acquired etc. due to its illegality and how difficult it is to obtain
There is a good chance it would be - purely because the use of N and how it was obtained. Hotel rooms are best used if you wanna hang yourself in my opinion.
I think it would be foolish to think that any medical team attending to your corpse with be well versed with N unless you had previously documented it.
 
honig

honig

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just like stated above+even if this would be in some local news, they propably wouldn't disclose which hotel exactly, which room etc. but some witnesses would very likely spread that info through their friends etc so it could be some kind of local gossip
 
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I was just thinking they might say 'a man committed suicide in a hotel in the outer eastern suburbs', but they wouldn't mention the suburb let alone the actualy hotel. But here in Australia I don't think I've ever heard of a news report of a suicide of a non-celebrity unless it was related to another event. I don't think I've ever heard 'John Smith was found dead in his car this morning at approximately 7.00 AM.' Maybe different in other countries?
Thanks for everyone's replies!

Another thing I'm wondering also is would ctb'ing in a hotel impact business for that hotel negatively?

Imagine the Tripadvisor review 'I was just about to sit down and enjoy my Continental breakfast when I saw the paramedics wheel out a dead body. Still the staff were super courteous. 2 out 5 stars.'
 
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Seiba

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Most of the people have already given their answers, but if you left sanctionedsuicide up on a laptop in a hotel it's more likely to get reported I would imagine. Other than that, N as you asked would probably not get mentioned to others. That aside, factors like being a college student or otherwise might factor in a bit on how many people know. Regardless, it will be a bit of gossip but not really massive news.
 
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BeBraveBrother

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Sep 5, 2020
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Although suicide is a very common cause of death you don't hear much about it. The reason for this is that there are a lot of people in society who want to prevent that people are imitating it. Most journalist follow a codex to not publish suicides. If it is a popular person however the public interest for the cause of death might be very high and you find help hotlines next to the article. There are forces in society that do not want to "normalize" it.
Although I support the idea that people are offered help to rethink their decision and to not promote suicide, the moral judgment that comes with it is absolutly false. There can be good reason to end my life before it would end anyway in month, years or decades. But nobody else but myself has to judge or define what "good reasons" are.
Everyone needs to define it for themselves. If someone is offering a different perspective it might be worth trying as subjective perspectives can be limited. But so can the perspective of others be limited as well.
The problem we have is that people are not offered help but often forced to take a certain path or to accept.
If someone is an adult and clear of mind: Who the hell are others people to neccitate me to stay in a life I don't identify with?