Wolf's bane seeds

[Hoga]

Are wolf's bane seeds poisonous ?

 

[Hoga]

Can I die if I ingest 50 aconite ( wolf's bane ) seeds? I've just received them.

 

[takeyourshotfunboy]

Bumping

 

[makethepainstop]

Wolf's bane is poisonous, but I am uncertain as to how great the toxicity is for the purpose you have in mind. The plant is definitely toxic.

 

[JAlexa]

Can I die if I ingest 50 aconite ( wolf's bane ) seeds? I've just received them.

You need more than 50 Aconitum seeds to succeed - I chewed a similar amount with alcohol and woke up the next morning. I experienced minor disorientation for a day & my body felt "squishy" under the skin for a few days, but there were no permanent symptoms.

If you wish to stick with a natural, plant-based method, I recommend Cerbera odellum instead. Slower death (3 hours - 2 days), but easier to disguise (you pass away from "heart complications" with no blue hue/cyanosis). Half a kernel is the minimum lethal dose, but 2+ is associated with higher mortality rates [1][2]. You can buy them on eBay under "Pong-Pong seeds" for as little as $10. @DetachedDreamer97 is the go-to if you have additional questions about this method.

 

[Hoga]

You need more than 50 Aconitum seeds to succeed - I chewed a similar amount with alcohol and woke up the next morning. I experienced minor disorientation for a day & my body felt "squishy" under the skin for a few days, but there were no permanent symptoms.

If you wish to stick with a natural, plant-based method, I recommend Cerbera odellum instead. Slower death (3 hours - 2 days), but easier to disguise (you pass away from "heart complications" with no blue hue/cyanosis). Half a kernel is the minimum lethal dose, but 2+ is associated with higher mortality rates [1][2]. You can buy them on eBay under "Pong-Pong seeds" for as little as $10. @DetachedDreamer97 is the go-to if you have additional questions about this method.

Thanks, Alas I don't have the time to buy these, I want to cbd today, and I need to buy datura seeds too, otherwise I'll vomit a lot, I've read this on another post. I have some yew trees, then I'll try to make a "tea" with the leaves, I think yew can work.

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

You need more than 50 Aconitum seeds to succeed - I chewed a similar amount with alcohol and woke up the next morning. I experienced minor disorientation for a day & my body felt "squishy" under the skin for a few days, but there were no permanent symptoms.

If you wish to stick with a natural, plant-based method, I recommend Cerbera odellum instead. Slower death (3 hours - 2 days), but easier to disguise (you pass away from "heart complications" with no blue hue/cyanosis). Half a kernel is the minimum lethal dose, but 2+ is associated with higher mortality rates [1][2]. You can buy them on eBay under "Pong-Pong seeds" for as little as $10. @DetachedDreamer97 is the go-to if you have additional questions about this method.

Cerbera odollam is a plant species of the Apocynaceae family. It is often dubbed the 'suicide tree' due to its strong cardiotoxic effects, which make it a suitable means to attempt suicide. The plant grows in wet areas in South India, Madagascar, and Southeast Asia; and its common names include Pong-Pong and Othalanga. The poison rich part of the plant is the kernel which is present at the core of its fruit. The bioactive toxin in the plant is cerberin, which is a cardiac glycoside of the cardenolide class. Cerberin has a mechanism of action similar to digoxin; hence, Cerbera odollam toxicity manifests similar to acute digoxin poisoning. Ingestion of its kernel causes nausea, vomiting, hyperkalemia, thrombocytopenia, and ECG abnormalities. Exposure to high doses of Cerbera odollam carries the highest risk of mortality. Initial management includes supportive therapy and administration of atropine followed by temporary pacemaker insertion. Administration of digoxin immune Fab may be considered in severe cases, although efficacy is variable and data limited to isolated case reports.

Good one il have to look more into it and how to get it.

i couldnt find it .

 

[JAlexa]

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Good one il have to look more into it and how to get it.

i couldnt find it .

Just checked eBay based on my suggested search terms and it gave several results:

(I ordered a few seeds myself - more than I'll use - so if you don't want to wait a month for shipping to the US, I can list my extras).

Side note: I forgot to clarify - the ~16% mortality rate referenced in articles pertains to those who were admitted to the hospital and passed away with treatment, the actual success rate - assuming you don't seek help - is much higher.

 

[oneeyed]

Will have to look into this. I was looking into belladonna berries. Apparently they taste good too lol

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

Just checked eBay based on my suggested search terms and it gave several results:

(I ordered a few seeds myself - more than I'll use - so if you don't want to wait a month for shipping to the US, I can list my extras).

Side note: I forgot to clarify - the ~16% mortality rate referenced in articles pertains to those who were admitted to the hospital and passed away with treatment, the actual success rate - assuming you don't seek help - is much higher.

so do i just eat the seeds?

 

[Hoga]

I've tried yew leaves and no result, not even stomach pain.

 

[JAlexa]

so do i just eat the seeds?

DetachedDreamer97 shares information on the method & protocol here. While a tincture isn't required to CTB peacefully, I recommend blending/crushing the kernal(s) into a more digestible format. The seeds are, by all accounts, disgusting if not masked with a strong spicy flavor.

Personally, I'll be using the medications I've acquired as part of my SN (backup) regime for this method too. SN and C. odollam consumption share several side effects - most notably, vomiting, which can be minimized with an antiemetic such as Metoclopramide or Domperidone. The beta-blocker, Propranolol, reduces tachycardia [rapid heartbeat] for SN and potentiates brachycardia [slow heartbeat] induced by cerberin, the toxin in C. odollam. Chest discomfort can be reduced with painkillers, and benzos help with anxiety & sedation.

All that aside, the biggest indicator of success for this method is you. Death won't come as quickly as SN, so you'll have more time to contemplate your decision and ability to handle pain. If you're not seeking a "natural" method, that is difficult to detect in autopsy, and makes you look like a normal, pale dead person, choose SN instead. I come from an Asian family with a psychotic helicopter mom & absent-abusive father, so this method is better suited for me. With SN, I fear they will cause people a lot of unnecessary headache. Especially my mom, who will pretend to be me to gather information (she already does).

 

[beingfree]

How about oleander? It's very poisonous, but is it peaceful?

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

DetachedDreamer97 shares information on the method & protocol here. While a tincture isn't required to CTB peacefully, I recommend blending/crushing the kernal(s) into a more digestible format. The seeds are, by all accounts, disgusting if not masked with a strong spicy flavor.

Personally, I'll be using the medications I've acquired as part of my SN (backup) regime for this method too. SN and C. odollam consumption share several side effects - most notably, vomiting, which can be minimized with an antiemetic such as Metoclopramide or Domperidone. The beta-blocker, Propranolol, reduces tachycardia [rapid heartbeat] for SN and potentiates brachycardia [slow heartbeat] induced by cerberin, the toxin in C. odollam. Chest discomfort can be reduced with painkillers, and benzos help with anxiety & sedation.

All that aside, the biggest indicator of success for this method is you. Death won't come as quickly as SN, so you'll have more time to contemplate your decision and ability to handle pain. If you're not seeking a "natural" method, that is difficult to detect in autopsy, and makes you look like a normal, pale dead person, choose SN instead. I come from an Asian family with a psychotic helicopter mom & absent-abusive father, so this method is better suited for me. With SN, I fear they will cause people a lot of unnecessary headache. Especially my mom, who will pretend to be me to gather information (she already does).

yeah i think SN is better since it seems more peaceful but thanks for the info, i am desperate to try anything.

 

[Hoga]

How about oleander? It's very poisonous, but is it peaceful?

After what I've read it's not peaceful at all,
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/poison/oleander-poisoning

And the taste is awful, a lot worse than yew.

 

[Hoga]

How many aconit seeds need I if I want to die ?
I can't buy cyanide or SN because I'm an individual and it's impossible to get N. I have some yew trees ( taxus baccata ) but it didn't work, I don't know why.
I have some lily of the valley, but it's not the season at all, I have oleander, but even the smell of fresh leaves is horrible. I want to ctb, but I don't know how.

There's no heights I can jump from ( like an abandonned factory or other abandonned place ) and make it look like as an accident.

Not sure swallowing a big ice cube and have it stuck in my troat works.