busybee
Experienced
- Jul 5, 2023
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Since some ctb methods such as opioid overdoses in rare cases and those with a high head trauma chance like jumping or train can lead to death via bleeding of/in the brain I want to give a witness report of what it looked like from the outside.
My nana survived one (currently in the icu) and luckyly cannot remember anything. A friend's grandma also had one and can't remember anything either.
Basically the symptoms we witnessed are: severe headache, nausea, vomiting, loss of conciousness, raspitory distress, convulsions
Certain death would have been possible in as little as 20/30 minutes after loss of conciousness without treatment in our case (ruptured brain anerysm). Conciousness was lost about 10 minutes after the headache began.
There is still a very high chance of death afterwards (that would be on strong hospital painkillers though).
Appearently not all hospitals are equipped for this. The one my nana was brought to first had the local stroke unit and yet they couldn't treat it there. I suspect that it is highly complicated so that probably plays into the low survival rate aswell.
Biggest con would be that survival has a high chance of having you fucked up physically and/or mentally.
The following might be something to look into to potentially increase the "death via possible complication from ctb attempt" success rate:
"A new study shows that people who take the commonly used blood thinning drug warfarin may have larger amounts of bleeding in the brain and increased risk of death if they suffer a hemorrhagic stroke."
Warning: graphic witness description of (near) death via bleeding in the brain
It started with a headache, increasing in intensity to a severe level. The prescription strenght painkillers (for migraine) didn't work.
Not even 10 minutes later she was moaning from the pain and when she stood up she collapsed.
She had trouble breathing and was groaning, gasping for air. She just groaned and was not able to talk and did not react so it can be assumed that she wasn't fully concious anymore. At some point she shot up straight into a sitting position was retching. That was so sudden and forcefull that it was most likely just a merely physical reaction. She held the bucket she was handed so tightly we had to forcefully remove it (cramping up so most likely not a voluntary action). Her breathing got worse and she had to forcefully get laid down again. Some of the vomit had entered her airway so she struggled more.
When she was in the hospital after initial treatment she was concious but really confused. They sedated her and tubed her to avoid further damage from getting her upset.
The local hospitals are both about 20 minutes awas via car and the emergency doc came via helicopter. The call was made right after the collapse. Any delay, had the doc not come via heli, and she would have been dead.
Once she was stabilied she had to be transported to a specialist clinic for surgery.
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Current state (for anyone curious): nana is 'fine' apart from a terrible short term memory. She can fully move and is like herself again but less energetic. Her short time memory is so bad that she e.g. can't remember that she has had 3 meals each day and thinks they are starving her. Amusingly the really bad ones and other things to complain about she does not forget and that really fits her personality lol. Fortunately the memory loss has a good chance of improving once there is less pressure in her head.
She has a headache but according to her the boredom is worse. They even brought a tv into the icu for her. She must get some really good meds.
My nana survived one (currently in the icu) and luckyly cannot remember anything. A friend's grandma also had one and can't remember anything either.
Basically the symptoms we witnessed are: severe headache, nausea, vomiting, loss of conciousness, raspitory distress, convulsions
Certain death would have been possible in as little as 20/30 minutes after loss of conciousness without treatment in our case (ruptured brain anerysm). Conciousness was lost about 10 minutes after the headache began.
There is still a very high chance of death afterwards (that would be on strong hospital painkillers though).
Appearently not all hospitals are equipped for this. The one my nana was brought to first had the local stroke unit and yet they couldn't treat it there. I suspect that it is highly complicated so that probably plays into the low survival rate aswell.
Biggest con would be that survival has a high chance of having you fucked up physically and/or mentally.
The following might be something to look into to potentially increase the "death via possible complication from ctb attempt" success rate:
"A new study shows that people who take the commonly used blood thinning drug warfarin may have larger amounts of bleeding in the brain and increased risk of death if they suffer a hemorrhagic stroke."
Warning: graphic witness description of (near) death via bleeding in the brain
It started with a headache, increasing in intensity to a severe level. The prescription strenght painkillers (for migraine) didn't work.
Not even 10 minutes later she was moaning from the pain and when she stood up she collapsed.
She had trouble breathing and was groaning, gasping for air. She just groaned and was not able to talk and did not react so it can be assumed that she wasn't fully concious anymore. At some point she shot up straight into a sitting position was retching. That was so sudden and forcefull that it was most likely just a merely physical reaction. She held the bucket she was handed so tightly we had to forcefully remove it (cramping up so most likely not a voluntary action). Her breathing got worse and she had to forcefully get laid down again. Some of the vomit had entered her airway so she struggled more.
When she was in the hospital after initial treatment she was concious but really confused. They sedated her and tubed her to avoid further damage from getting her upset.
The local hospitals are both about 20 minutes awas via car and the emergency doc came via helicopter. The call was made right after the collapse. Any delay, had the doc not come via heli, and she would have been dead.
Once she was stabilied she had to be transported to a specialist clinic for surgery.
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Current state (for anyone curious): nana is 'fine' apart from a terrible short term memory. She can fully move and is like herself again but less energetic. Her short time memory is so bad that she e.g. can't remember that she has had 3 meals each day and thinks they are starving her. Amusingly the really bad ones and other things to complain about she does not forget and that really fits her personality lol. Fortunately the memory loss has a good chance of improving once there is less pressure in her head.
She has a headache but according to her the boredom is worse. They even brought a tv into the icu for her. She must get some really good meds.
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