socrates

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How much of a privacy invasion will they do? I plan on CTBing away from the family home, and I live in a small town, so we don't exactly have the sharpest detectives. Will they come to my house and steal stuff too. I'd imagine they'd take my phone, but will they scan it for deleted files?
 
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LaVieEnRose

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I'm not sure. How unambiguous your death is as a suicide probably impacts how extensive their investigation is. You could leave a note making it clear it wss suicide.

Of course you could always wipe or outright destroy your electronics too.
 
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socrates

socrates

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Dec 3, 2019
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I'm not sure. How unambiguous your death is as a suicide probably impacts how extensive their investigation is. You could leave a note making it clear it wss suicide.

Of course you could always wipe or outright destroy your electronics too.
I plan on making it very clear for them. -_-
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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I mean, if you're so worried just stick a magnet on your electronic devices.
 
unnormal9

unnormal9

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Apr 12, 2023
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It doesn't matter when I'm dead.
 
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HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Just encrypt your pc and phone with a good password or wipe the data
 
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XXXWRLD

XXXWRLD

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May 22, 2023
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If you don't want them to do like Elliot in Mr. Robot and microwave the storage devices.
 
squirley

squirley

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May 6, 2023
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How much of a privacy invasion will they do?
Why would this matter if your no longer here?
Sorry to be so blunt , but what would you be trying to hide.
Sources?
(if you ordered something to assist you then they might get a warrent for laptop etc)

if you have your
Phone or anything on your person or in clear view (note) related to the ctb.
I plan on CTBing away from the family home, and I live in a small town, so we don't exactly have the sharpest detectives.
What would they be investigating? Depending on what else you're involved in.
Will they come to my house and steal stuff too.
And steal stuff ???
Don't leave anything of value out in the open.
I'd imagine they'd take my phone, but will they scan it for deleted files?
If you don't leave a note in the open with contacts on it.
If your phone is on you or near you.
They will take it.
To contact your family.
( assuming you're doing this at your place)

Why would they scan for deleted files. Are you giving them a reason ?
 
nothingbutmybest

nothingbutmybest

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May 1, 2023
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Why would this matter if your no longer here?
Sorry to be so blunt , but what would you be trying to hide.
Sources?
(if you ordered something to assist you then they might get a warrent for laptop etc)

if you have your
Phone or anything on your person or in clear view (note) related to the ctb.

What would they be investigating? Depending on what else you're involved in.

And steal stuff ???
Don't leave anything of value out in the open.

If you don't leave a note in the open with contacts on it.
If your phone is on you or near you.
They will take it.
To contact your family.
( assuming you're doing this at your place)

Why would they scan for deleted files. Are you giving them a reason ?
Because if you have a stalker watching you 24/7 that will have zero impact on your life, I think you'd want to know. If you really want to be blunt, nothing has any real reason to matter. Everyone chooses what matters to them
 
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Praestat_Mori

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If you have data you do not want to be seen by others when they investigate your devices you should format all of them with a destructive format, there are ways how to do this. This way you make sure data cannot be recovered at all. Just wiping the hard disk or resetting the phone isn't enough.
 
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squirley

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Because if you have a stalker watching you 24/7 that will have zero impact on your life, I think you'd want to know.
????? Are you ok ?
Having a stalker and the police searching your home are two completely different things.
Your euphemism makes no sense.

If they have your phone and it's not connected to a certain source and you're not a criminal.
Then they will get your contacts and let them know. And return the phone after a little.
If you have a bag of SN there with you. They will take and keep your phone .
If you really want to be blunt, nothing has any real reason to matter. Everyone chooses what matters to them
I was trying to assist the OP to answer their questions. And needed more information to do that.
it really does matter on what you are trying to hide from personal things to sources etc.

Depending on how the situation unfolds and who you are as a person prior.
will depict how far the piggys will dive into your life.
 
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Jadzia

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May 8, 2019
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If its clear your death is suicide, I don't see why they would. If they suspect its murder then they would.

I'm leaving all my passwords for my Dad. I've told him where they are. I've nothing to hide
 
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macrocosm

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Apr 3, 2023
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How much of a privacy invasion will they do? I plan on CTBing away from the family home, and I live in a small town, so we don't exactly have the sharpest detectives. Will they come to my house and steal stuff too. I'd imagine they'd take my phone, but will they scan it for deleted files?
If they have a warrant yes
 
nothingbutmybest

nothingbutmybest

Student
May 1, 2023
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????? Are you ok ?
Having a stalker and the police searching your home are two completely different things.
Your euphemism makes no sense.

Depending on how the situation unfolds and who you are as a person prior.
will depict how far the piggys will dive into your life.
Yeah, it's completely different and totally different scales. Police (in the US) sometimes dig through a bunch but it wouldn't be on the same level as a stalker and it'd feel completely different but it's based on the same thing.

You would not let a stalker stalk you because it's creepy because them watching you 24/7 is a massive privacy invasion out of love or whatever. Though it's out of love, the problem isn't really being "loved" that much but the privacy invasion. For some people, the same thing goes for the police. A privacy invasion is a privacy invasion to some people. Sure it "doesn't matter" but you still wouldn't really want that happening.
I was trying to assist the OP to answer their questions. And needed more information to do that.
it really does matter on what you are trying to hide from personal things to sources etc.
To be honest, only real way to hide things perfectly is to destroy it.
 
squirley

squirley

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Yeah, it's completely different and totally different scales. Police (in the US) sometimes dig through a bunch but it wouldn't be on the same level as a stalker and it'd feel completely different but it's based on the same thing.
Besides the fact that no one here including the OP. Mentioned anything about a stalker makes your point completely invalid. Not to mention the fact that you contradicted yourself and dismantled your own point here.
You would not let a stalker stalk you because it's creepy because them watching you 24/7 is a massive privacy invasion out of love or whatever. Though it's out of love, the problem isn't really being "loved" that much but the privacy invasion.
The goals of the pigs and a stalker are completely different. And the police have WAY more access and ability. Your confusing what privacy invasion is.
In comparison to the bullshit laws that that allow LE to do as they please.
And it's up to you to take these precautions. To help detour unlawful activity by LE.
As I mentioned already.
It's not just some weirdo scrolling your social media. Jacking it.Showing up to your place. Calling/Txt over and over.
Watching you in public or at work.
Not to mention your ALIVE.
This is criminal harassment/trespassing.
Not invasion of privacy.

This changes if the person starts RECORDING you audio or visual. While on YOUR property.
you're inside the home without knowledge.
you have reasonable expectations of privacy.

This has nothing to do with the police going through your things that are left in the open or on your person. Phone/laptop no password.
(This changes if it was a welfare check/bad smell/with or without a warrent)
Beside/on your dead body. Especially if there are any drugs/SN/Etc present in view.

If you hang yourself in the bathroom. They won't go in your bedroom closet to find and take your laptop.Without probable cause. If your phone is on the living room table or in the bathroom.
Yes they will take it to contact your family.
How far they go with the phone depends on the circumstances that I mentioned before.
cause of death. What's in view.
Who you are as a person.
(Prior charges etc or not)
For some people, the same thing goes for the police. A privacy invasion is a privacy invasion to some people. Sure it "doesn't matter" but you still wouldn't really want that happening.
Legal human rights only apply when you're alive not dead.
This is common sense.
If you don't want something found don't leave it in the open.
Or on your person.
Delete anything you don't want seen.
format your phone/factory reset. Etc.
Have a password.
Leave a note.(with contact info)
Give no probable cause or suspicion. For them to get a warrant.
Leave things with someone else.
Or in a locked storage container. Only family has access to.
On top of that if you're dead what does it matter. your fucking dead you wouldn't know anyway. And you can take tons of precautions.

If you are trying to hide something that you don't want people finding out because its bad.
and you don't want that as a memory of you.
In that case just destroy it then toss it in a lake.
 
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outrider567

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Apr 5, 2022
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No, as long as your manner of death is clear(suicide), police in the US won't go thru your phone or computer
 
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Goodgirlryeo101

Wizard
May 27, 2023
661
• Stalker? You should be flattered that someone is that obsessed with you to resort to stalking 🫢
• Even if police go through your stuff, you will be gone anyway, you will be at eternal peace
• For sure for someone who doesn't care about someone you go through a lot to show how much you don't "care"
• I remember this loser as mum always called him he came to my house and stole alcohol to go and give his alcoholic brother… the funny thing he told me himself so yeah I understand why you would be worried about thieves but police won't steal your stuff …..
• I hope you find peace and complete your ctb successful
• Forget about all these other things, it's just background noise
 
nothingbutmybest

nothingbutmybest

Student
May 1, 2023
117
Besides the fact that no one here including the OP. Mentioned anything about a stalker makes your point completely invalid. Not to mention the fact that you contradicted yourself and dismantled your own point here.

The goals of the pigs and a stalker are completely different. And the police have WAY more access and ability. Your confusing what privacy invasion is.
In comparison to the bullshit laws that that allow LE to do as they please.
And it's up to you to take these precautions. To help detour unlawful activity by LE.
As I mentioned already.
It's not just some weirdo scrolling your social media. Jacking it.Showing up to your place. Calling/Txt over and over.
Watching you in public or at work.
Not to mention your ALIVE.
This is criminal harassment/trespassing.
Not invasion of privacy.

This changes if the person starts RECORDING you audio or visual. While on YOUR property.
you're inside the home without knowledge.
you have reasonable expectations of privacy.

This has nothing to do with the police going through your things that are left in the open or on your person. Phone/laptop no password.
(This changes if it was a welfare check/bad smell/with or without a warrent)
Beside/on your dead body. Especially if there are any drugs/SN/Etc present in view.

If you hang yourself in the bathroom. They won't go in your bedroom closet to find and take your laptop.Without probable cause. If your phone is on the living room table or in the bathroom.
Yes they will take it to contact your family.
How far they go with the phone depends on the circumstances that I mentioned before.
cause of death. What's in view.
Who you are as a person.
(Prior charges etc or not)

Legal human rights only apply when you're alive not dead.
This is common sense.
If you don't want something found don't leave it in the open.
Or on your person.
Delete anything you don't want seen.
format your phone/factory reset. Etc.
Have a password.
Leave a note.(with contact info)
Give no probable cause or suspicion. For them to get a warrant.
Leave things with someone else.
Or in a locked storage container. Only family has access to.
On top of that if you're dead what does it matter. your fucking dead you wouldn't know anyway. And you can take tons of precautions.

If you are trying to hide something that you don't want people finding out because its bad.
and you don't want that as a memory of you.
In that case just destroy it then toss it in a lake.
There is a lot you said and there's a lot I do agree with. [Typical stalkers usually have malicious intent, being on your property can imply physical threat, police don't go in-depth without reason (though suicide is a reason), legal rights only apply to humans, hide stuff you want hidden.] My problem is that none of this is actually replying to what I'm arguing for, you're just listing reasons of why you think privacy doesn't (or shouldn't) matter after death. Again, I don't disagree but personally it kinda feels like you're just listing off bullet points.

I'm just saying that for a fair amount of people, privacy is something you want on its own without any pre-requisites/implications. It's not about legality, it's not about state of being, it's just something you want for no good reason.

Note: I REALLY don't think I'm confusing what privacy invasion is. By definition, privacy requires that you are not observed or disturbed, both of which police and stalkers do. Are you using the legal version of privacy?
 
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squirley

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There is a lot you said and there's a lot I do agree with. [Typical stalkers usually have malicious intent, being on your property can imply physical threat, police don't go in-depth without reason (though suicide is a reason), legal rights only apply to humans, hide stuff you want hidden.] My problem is that none of this is actually replying to what I'm arguing for, you're just listing reasons of why you think privacy doesn't (or shouldn't) matter after death. Again, I don't disagree but personally it kinda feels like you're just listing off bullet points.

I'm just saying that for a fair amount of people, privacy is something you want on its own without any pre-requisites/implications. It's not about legality, it's not about state of being, it's just something you want for no good reason.

Note: I REALLY don't think I'm confusing what privacy invasion is. By definition, privacy requires that you are not observed or disturbed, both of which police and stalkers do. Are you using the legal version of privacy?
I hear ya
Yah just coming from different points of view like personal vs legal
 
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I_want_to_sleep

I_want_to_sleep

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Mar 22, 2023
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Even if you make it clear that it was a suicide, law enforcement still have a duty to investigate the cause of your death to ensure that there was no foul play.

Accessing the files (including the deleted ones) on your electronics should be a trivial task for anyone doing the IT stuff at your department. If they don't have the resources to verify what is on there it's likely that they'll send it elsewhere to someone that can retrieve what is on there.

I don't know much about where you live or your personal circumstances but you should assume that what is going to happen is what you least want to happen in cases like this so I'd recommend either physically destroying your devices or encrypting them if you feel strongly about not wanting them to discover what is on there.
 
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