Rosiel

Rosiel

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Jan 24, 2019
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I think sometimes Earth itself can be a form of hell.
 
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marcusuk63

marcusuk63

CTB
Mar 24, 2019
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There are 4,300 religions in the world .

12 major religions , i.e. have the most fans.

Throughout recorded history, there have been anywhere from 8,000–12,000 Gods .

Any religious person disbelieves all other religions , i just disbelief one more than them .
 
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memataporfavor

memataporfavor

( つ・o・)つ still ill ╮|。>ー<。|╭
Apr 6, 2019
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I've been on this website for over a year now. I have not engaged with the community. Been on and off about suicide for the following reasons
-Accessibility to a reliable method
-I have poor reading comprehension so I don't understand the mega thread, no one will help me understand the information so I haven't been able to figure out a reliable method
-Fear of failing

I've lived a very painful life due to mental illness from a young age. I simply don't want to exist. I don't want my consciousness to exist. I want to end my life so my consciousness will cease to exist. I fear of failing 1. and 2. i fear of an afterlife existing and me being punished just for my will not exist.
I'm also scared to do this. I'm scared to leave my family. I'm scared of what would happen next.
I feel immense emotional pain and I don't want to live in a world where i'm so vunreable to pain and suffering and where I don't feel I belong or can connect to people.
I feel really lonely, I feel like I barely have any friends I feel like a black sheep, a loser, a failure.
I worked for all 2019 and saved my money to afford to travel now i'm realizing I won't be happy, I'll just carry my lowliness and pain with me wherever I go.
I'm hesitant to kill myself but I want to end my conciousness.
I want to end my conciousness more than anything - to have no subjective awareness - to be nothing - nonexistent
im scared of an afterlife
i just want there to be peace, nothingness.
i have a plan to kill myself, sadly i dont understand the information here due to my poor reading comprehension and people won't help me understand because it's considered spoon feeding information so the only certain way i can commit suicide is a painful way but i am thinking of buying a weighted vest. handcuffing myself behind my back and jumping into the ocean i have a pier that i can jump off of. i know it will be painful but what are moments of pain compared to a lifetime of pain?
look, i dont think there's such thing, BUT if you believe in a god ( with a heaven and a hell) do you really think they would want you to suffer that much? from what ive heard at least, they're allegedly a good being or idk spirit (sorry if im being disrespectful its really not my intention, im not in my 1st language and i dont understant much abt religion etc)and they're supposed to love you, just like you love them! i dont think it would be fair to punish one of their creations for wanting to cease it's suffering. just my opinion.
 
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passenger27

passenger27

In my beginning is my end.
Aug 25, 2019
642
what will happen when i die?
No one knows except the dead, but it's my belief your conscience will live on in some sort of way. Not in a Heaven or Hell way, but a total end to suffering, complete freedom way. I think this conscience is what they call a soul. I think the human mind is too powerful a thing to just fade away. But Heaven and Hell is hogwash. You may as well climb Mount Olympus and worship Zeus.

On the other hand, it could be oblivion. It's not like that's a completely bad thing either. When you're about to have surgery and the anesthesiologist (hope I spelled that right) shoots you with the anesthesia you're out. You don't know anything. That's really not too bad either; eternal rest. I don't mind that a bit myself.

It's really just a shot in the dark, but between the two I think there's a 50/50 percent chance either way. Math and science may say otherwise, that there's such and such a million to one chance of survival after death, but you know, people say there's a one and so many million chances you're going to win the lottery, but my own feelings on that is keeping it simple. When you buy a ticket there's a 50/50 chance you'll win. You either will or won't. That's basic math and I feel the same about the afterlife.

Just my 2 cents for free, I'm far from an expert. Hope it helps you, if only a little bit.
 
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Razor's Edge

Razor's Edge

Scars Beneath the Skin
Jan 5, 2020
113
I've been on this website for over a year now. I have not engaged with the community. Been on and off about suicide for the following reasons
-Accessibility to a reliable method
-I have poor reading comprehension so I don't understand the mega thread, no one will help me understand the information so I haven't been able to figure out a reliable method
-Fear of failing

I've lived a very painful life due to mental illness from a young age. I simply don't want to exist. I don't want my consciousness to exist. I want to end my life so my consciousness will cease to exist. I fear of failing 1. and 2. i fear of an afterlife existing and me being punished just for my will not exist.
I'm also scared to do this. I'm scared to leave my family. I'm scared of what would happen next.
I feel immense emotional pain and I don't want to live in a world where i'm so vunreable to pain and suffering and where I don't feel I belong or can connect to people.
I feel really lonely, I feel like I barely have any friends I feel like a black sheep, a loser, a failure.
I worked for all 2019 and saved my money to afford to travel now i'm realizing I won't be happy, I'll just carry my lowliness and pain with me wherever I go.
I'm hesitant to kill myself but I want to end my conciousness.
I want to end my conciousness more than anything - to have no subjective awareness - to be nothing - nonexistent
im scared of an afterlife
i just want there to be peace, nothingness.
i have a plan to kill myself, sadly i dont understand the information here due to my poor reading comprehension and people won't help me understand because it's considered spoon feeding information so the only certain way i can commit suicide is a painful way but i am thinking of buying a weighted vest. handcuffing myself behind my back and jumping into the ocean i have a pier that i can jump off of. i know it will be painful but what are moments of pain compared to a lifetime of pain?


I believe hell is in your own mind. I have had this question my whole life. I was raised Christian, went to a Christian school from kindergarten to 12th grade, and went to church twice a week, prayer sessions at home, plus my parents had a Christian bookstore in our house during my early years. I was raised and taught that Fear and Guilt is what it is all about. So, I lived in fear of Hell my whole life.
My whole life I have been suicidal, but scared of Hell too, so I never did it.
I also have mental illnesses, that I have had All my life, but not diagnosed though yet, that I Also want to escape from. PTSD, Borderline Personality Disorder,Panic Disorder,Much Anxiety,Depression,etc. So I follow you. I want desperately to rid myself of All of the parts of me that are messed up...mentally and physically.
I have Always lived with the Hell in my mind. Humans Being born blind...we Only Follow others, who don't really Know anything either. So, the concept of Hell is Taught not a Known place. We are taught to fear and have guilt, and suffer from the fear of the unknown. It is our choice to believe it or not. To be damned to Hell for all eternity to suffer, just for needing to get out of the Hell we are living in Now. This is Beyond Sadistic!
I have had experiences that prove there is definitely more out there than we know, where you have no ego, only existing in a state of bliss. I want to believe that the afterlife is as beautiful as these experiences.
I hope this helps, and it helps me to not feel alone. Thank you. Peace and Bright Blessings.
 
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Didymus

Didymus

Clutching at invisible straws
Dec 11, 2018
348
No one knows what is beyond death.
 
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MrOptions

MrOptions

Let it go. This to shall pass.
Jan 6, 2020
178
I think sometimes Earth itself can be a form of hell.
Hell is a state of mind. However, this physical life is in itself hellish. Life is only to have the "experience" in a physical body.
 
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Oppenheimer

Oppenheimer

Member
Apr 7, 2019
80
Well, if you believe in God than don´t worry about Hell. The Almigthy would not let his creations suffer for eternity because of suicide the same as let´s say Jeffrey Dahmer. Or Nazy doctors, etc. That would be absurd.

I Believe we are a very advanced machine, made of flesh and bones, but a machine no less, and when we die we simple cease to exist. It´s like sleeping and never waking up. All the rest are creations of man to avoid the immense fear of death. "ah, there´s an afterlife" and such.

I´m a christian but it´s hard to believe that god would let 90% of what happens in this decadent society go on.
 
TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,819
I don't believe in hell or some afterlife. I am an atheist, but I do have some understanding of religious subjects due to my attendance in churches, growing up with people who went to church and even did some research myself. As far as I know, suicide is not a sin (at least not directly mentioned), and according to the Bible (referring to Christianity here), people who commit suicide do NOT necessarily go to hell (in fact there are examples of characters and people in the Bible who have CTB'd but didn't go to hell as a result. If they did go to hell, it is usually due to some other reason. For example Judas Iscariot went to hell because he betrayed Jesus for 30 shekels and didn't repent, not because he hung himself, at least that's my understanding).

As far whether it is a sin or not, some scholars and Christians are still not quite on the same page (many claim it is a 'sin' but I believe that is a holdover from the Roman Catholic church, that decreed suicide as a sin to deter it's congregation from mass suicide thinking that it would be a free ticket to heaven. It made sense from a man-made construct, religion to do so in order to preserve it's group and not die out.) on whether suicide is a sin or not.
 
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justwantdeath

Member
Dec 13, 2019
78
"Religious leaders sometimes tell people that suicide is an unforgivable sin leading to eternal damnation in hell. This is not what the NDE reveals. NDEs do describe life as being an inescapable learning experience. Suicide prevents this learning experience from being completed. Experiencers describe hell as being a temporary spiritual condition rather than a permanent place of torture."

Inescapable learning experience... That's my definition of hell!

This.
 
Starcitty

Starcitty

Cloud
Jan 6, 2020
40
I don't think hell and heaven exist. They only exist from our brains and consciousness not outside of it. Living my life enough is literal hell anyway. I think our energy does go elsewhere and we do leave earth but an afterlife probably doesn't exist at all.
 
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Thatdude

Life is temporary, death is permanent
Sep 26, 2019
473
As someone much smarter than me has noted, there's no way any of us finite beings could do anything deserving of infinite suffering as punishment. (((Hugs)))

Depending on the religion and subgroup will depend on this view point. Like many Jewish think someone can only be in hell for 7 years.

My best advice on this is to read the text. Does it say if you do xyz, then you go to one place over the other?
In my opinion, churches and religious figures are purely there to interpret the text. But unless if they obviously have some divine whatever (something that we would call magic). Then I wouldn't trust a random Joe interpretation over mine. However, if you trust the religious person. Then I view it to be OK to have a little faith in their interpretation. But I would recommend everyone to never forget it is just an interpretation.


in my opinion this is the same as Schrödinger's cat. Unless if you can prove it to be right or wrong. It is best to assume it is and isn't. Meaning, do be in fear but don't cross the line. Like do what you want as long as it doesn't kill someone else or whatever.

Now, as far as suicide. This highly depends on the religion. You would be shocked how lose that is in the Bible, where other religions it's flat out ban.



The answer to the op question is the same as if there is life in space, if people have a soul, are we in a simulation, or the thousand others. Unless it can be proven fact or false. No living person knows.
 
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Kirbster

Kirbster

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Jan 6, 2020
26
Growing up in an extremely religious household resulted in me being afraid of suicide because it was taught youd go to hell. Although I no longer have any religious convictions, I still find myself with that lingering fear of damnation. In order to help myself overcome those feelings, I like to think that we create our own afterlifes-- although I know that's not scientific or logical of me. In my heart though, I hope whatever someone wants death to be-- whether it be peace, heaven, eternal happiness or nothing.... I hope that it comes true for them somehow.
 

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