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Last year, on January the 10th, I tried to kill myself, obviously unsuccessfully, with the exact same method. I stupidly consumed 90 of them, with nothing but water. I now know my mistake, and I feel like an idiot, but I just want advice. Should I increase the amount of tablets? Should I increase the strength of the alcohol? What month/year should I make my second overdose attempt? I was thinking I'd wait two years for my favourite artists to release concert videos, since it has been delayed due to Corona, but I'm also conflicted... I don't have much strength to continue for very long, my limit is probably up until January 1st of 2021. Please provide your own advice.
 
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I don't think overdosing on prescription pills will work well even with the alcohol :aw:
 
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What are the pills, and the number of each?
 
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190 pills of ... ?
 
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Last year, on January the 10th, I tried to kill myself, obviously unsuccessfully, with the exact same method. I stupidly consumed 90 of them, with nothing but water. I now know my mistake, and I feel like an idiot, but I just want advice. Should I increase the amount of tablets? Should I increase the strength of the alcohol? What month/year should I make my second overdose attempt? I was thinking I'd wait two years for my favourite artists to release concert videos, since it has been delayed due to Corona, but I'm also conflicted... I don't have much strength to continue for very long, my limit is probably up until January 1st of 2021. Please provide your own advice.

You fail to mention what the pills are, but as a general rule it is very difficult to overdose on most prescription medications.

Your asking readers what date they think you should suicide again, and your comments about wanting to wait for concert videos, suggests you aren't fully committed to the idea of suicide. Please don't rush into doing anything unless you are totally sure it is what you want to do. Right now you seem very conflicted about it.
 
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If you are really serious, do your research. It's evident that overdosing on pills has a miniscule chance of success, to such a degree that I genuinely can't take "suicide attempts" by overdosing (most of the time even with over-the-counter shit) seriously at this point. It's either to send out a message, like a cry for help, or worse, simply to get attention. May sound harsh but it is what it is. The only reason I would swallow a bunch of pills is to get a week off work to chill at home and get sympathy from my collegues after spouting everywhere that I was oh-so-intent on commiting suicide. If I actually wanted to die I'd use a method with a higher success rate than 2%.
 
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I agree with what the other members have previously said. OD on pills and alcohol is a very unreliable method. Also, I know nothing about the name of the pills or the mgs. I've tried to OD before (very impulsively after my twin died) when I was very intoxicated on alcohol...took several 2mg Klonopin (benzo) and ended up in ICU for 3 days... feeling like shit then sent off to psych.

I suggest if you really want to ctb then you do research on reliable methods. There's a resource thread on this forum. I also feel like you are having some ambivalence on wanting to catch the bus, since you mentioned waiting for two years ....in order to see concerts.

Personally, I am sad that Bright Eyes had to reschedule their tour due to Covid, as I was supposed to see them in three weeks. But, I am not waiting to ctb in order to see them live, as I'm ctb on Monday. I'll have to enjoy them on Youtube.

Please give yourself some more time, patience, and put more thought into what you want to do. I am sorry that you are in pain and I'm sending you hugs.
 
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I agree with what the other members have previously said. OD on pills and alcohol is a very unreliable method. Also, I know nothing about the name of the pills or the mgs. I've tried to OD before (very impulsively after my twin died) when I was very intoxicated on alcohol...took several 2mg Klonopin (benzo) and ended up in ICU for 3 days... feeling like shit then sent off to psych.

I suggest if you really want to ctb then you do research on reliable methods. There's a resource thread on this forum. I also feel like you are having some ambivalence on wanting to catch the bus, since you mentioned waiting for two years ....in order to see concerts.

Personally, I am sad that Bright Eyes had to reschedule their tour due to Covid, as I was supposed to see them in three weeks. But, I am not waiting to ctb in order to see them live, as I'm ctb on Monday. I'll have to enjoy them on Youtube.

Please give yourself some more time, patience, and put more thought into what you want to do. I am sorry that you are in pain and I'm sending you hugs.
I'm not conflicted about killing myself. It's a definite, and tied to the conditions and constraints of a certain time-frame passing, instead of a certain emotional state leaving me.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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I think the OP has moved on to other methods and we'll never know what the pills are.
 
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I think the OP has moved on to other methods and we'll never know what the pills are.
Have not moved on, simply picked two backup methods.
I think the OP has moved on to other methods and we'll never know what the pills are.
I can't name the pills because I removed them from their packets and they're three or four separate brands/types. I keep them all in one separate box.
 
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Have not moved on, simply picked two backup methods.

I can't name the pills because I removed them from their packets and they're three or four separate brands/types. I keep them all in one separate box.
Well just know it's highly highly unlikely you will be successful with this.
 
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Most of the "unsafe" meds that you can kill yourself by overdose aren't prescribed much anymore. Especially psych meds.

That being said, I once found a gastroenterologist who prescribed me amitriptyline for irritable bowel. True story. Those tricyclics can kill you via easy overdose.
 
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Most of the "unsafe" meds that you can kill yourself by overdose aren't prescribed much anymore. Especially psych meds.

That being said, I once found a gastroenterologist who prescribed me amitriptyline for irritable bowel. True story. Those tricyclics can kill you via easy overdose.
But even then – to make it peaceful you would need a cocktail of drugs.
 
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True. Anyone seeking a peaceful death shouldn't OD on tricyclics.
 
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I can't name the pills because I removed them from their packets and they're three or four separate brands/types. I keep them all in one separate box.

If you can't name them then you shouldn't even consider this method.

only a very small number of prescribed medications can actually kill you, and even those are not exactly the most reliable method. alcohol won't make a difference and could complicate the process because of the increased risk of vomiting.
 
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If you can't name them then you shouldn't even consider this method.

only a very small number of prescribed medications can actually kill you, and even those are not exactly the most reliable method. alcohol won't make a difference and could complicate the process because of the increased risk of vomiting.
Alcohol speeds up the decomposition of tablets within the stomach acid.
Deceleration Trauma / Cement Poisoning works. If from a high enough height.
Thank you.
 
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Unlikely, not impossible. Plus doesn't the fact they're all different brands increase my chances?

I get the sense that no matter how many people say to not try it, you've got your mind made up to try it. I could be wrong, I don't know you, it just feels like that's the direction you're heading by trying come up with rationalizations, such as combining meds by different manufacturers. But you may have a source for that info, I could be the one in error.

As you said, you want a death that works.

Only you can decide what risks you want to take and are worthy of taking. So far the odds are higher that you'll end up in an emergency room than, you know, in the ground. Without the pill names, there's no way to do the research you need to make an informed decision, and that's a risk. The attempt won't work because you really want it to, and I'm not being a condescending asshole by saying that, it's just the way folks in general sometimes view things when they're feeling desperate and seeking a way out, hoping that the small chance of success will be in their favor.

Perhaps you can research online each pill. The Physician's Desk Reference helps to identify pills with photos, so maybe there's an online resource. Say that you know a pill is a trycyclic, you can look up photos of tricyclics and try to identify the pill, dosage, and manufacturer. From there, you can research drug interactions, alcohol interactions, reported deaths by combinations, etc.
 
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I get the sense that no matter how many people say to not try it, you've got your mind made up to try it. I could be wrong, I don't know you, it just feels like that's the direction you're heading by trying come up with rationalizations, such as combining meds by different manufacturers. But you may have a source for that info, I could be the one in error.

As you said, you want a death that works.

Only you can decide what risks you want to take and are worthy of taking. So far the odds are higher that you'll end up in an emergency room than, you know, in the ground. Without the pill names, there's no way to do the research you need to make an informed decision, and that's a risk. The attempt won't work because you really want it to, and I'm not being a condescending asshole by saying that, it's just the way folks in general sometimes view things when they're feeling desperate and seeking a way out, hoping that the small chance of success will be in their favor.

Perhaps you can research online each pill. The Physician's Desk Reference helps to identify pills with photos, so maybe there's an online resource. Say that you know a pill is a trycyclic, you can look up photos of tricyclics and try to identify the pill, dosage, and manufacturer. From there, you can research drug interactions, alcohol interactions, reported deaths by combinations, etc.
I've read exactly twenty news articles that confirm my message that you've quoted within your reply. Of course I have proof.
 
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Deceleration Trauma / Cement Poisoning works. If from a high enough height.

Never heard of this (these?). If you're interested in educating people about this, I think it would be of value to do a site search and bump existing threads, adding your knowledge in new comments, or starting a new thread if there's no site info (two threads if those are two methods).
 
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Sorry, it was a flippant remark. I'm referring to jumping from a tall building. It's not the fall that kills you, rather, the sudden stop at the end.
 
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I've read exactly twenty news articles that confirm my message that you've quoted within your reply. Of course I have proof.

No offense intended. When you've been on the site a little bit, you'll see that folks say a lot of things they think but have no proof for. If you have such proof it's a welcome rarity, and would be of value to the forum if you have the sources saved and would share them.
Sorry, it was a flippant remark. I'm referring to jumping from a tall building. It's not the fall that kills you, rather, the sudden stop at the end.

I love smart humor! I'm a bit lacking on science and engineering smarts, though. I get it now, deceleration trauma is darkly hilarious.
 
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No offense intended. When you've been on the site a little bit, you'll see that folks say a lot of things they think but have no proof for. If you have such proof it's a welcome rarity, and would be of value to the forum if you have the sources saved and would share them.
Sources are saved on my old smartphone, which is broken currently. Once my debit card gets unblocked, I shall purchase replacement screen glass and you can receive the links approximately one week (or a week and a half) afterwards. Anyways, I'm going to bed now. I'll talk as soon as possible. Sleep well GPE (your username initials). bye
 
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Let me just call bullshit on all of this. A large number of pills will often form a clump in the stomach, which dissolves very slowly and slows gastric emptying. Alcohol doesn't change this. The fact you won't even mention what they are indicates this is bullshit. It is exceedingly, and I mean exceedingly, easy to search for an unknown pill via google. You are wasting everyone's time with a bs post and spreading just flagrant misinformation as stated above.
 
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Let me just call bullshit on all of this. A large number of pills will often form a clump in the stomach, which dissolves very slowly and slows gastric emptying. Alcohol doesn't change this. The fact you won't even mention what they are indicates this is bullshit. It is exceedingly, and I mean exceedingly, easy to search for an unknown pill via google. You are wasting everyone's time with a bs post and spreading just flagrant misinformation as stated above.

I don't recall anyone here claiming misinformation, maybe I overlooked it, but this thread just seems...off. Combined with the other threads posted today, I'm as confused as I was from the OP of this thread, even more so.

I'm feeling uncomfortable, so I'm going to step out of the thread and others by this poster, as I think our individual ways of communicating and viewing things are going to clash, but I sincerely wish him/her this best in whatever they seek that causes no harm to others.
 
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Alcohol speeds up the decomposition of tablets within the stomach acid.

it also irritates the stomach lining, increases the production of stomach acid and is interpreted by the body as a toxin even at low quantities. this is why you vomit when consuming alcohol.

and if this wasn't enough, you are also consuming a very large amount of unknown pills. you WILL vomit if you are not using an antiemetic with whatever this method is.
 
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I'm specifically referring to the claim by OP that alcohol will prevent 190 pills from clumping and the general idea of tak8ng 190 unknown pills is a sensible approach. The posts are indeed "off." I frequent a much different, and much more chaotic, board, and everything the OP has posted is shill 101.

I agree with you, I'm out of this as well.
 
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