Why would my CTB be tragic?

[Ellipsis]

I will go ctb one day, and I think about the reaction of my loved ones. They won't understand, they'll think it's a tragedy, it's a shame, that I had my whole life ahead of me. But honestly, I don't see how my CTB would be tragic. We are all going to die one day, whether it happens today or tomorrow. And I haven't done anything good in my life and I've never been comfortable with life in general. I hate this world, and I'm glad to know that it won't concern me anymore. All the problems in the world, the professional, financial, friendly concerns, all of this no longer concerns me.
I know the best thing for me to do is leave. Sometimes I'm sincerely happy to leave this earth, I can't wait for that day to come. Why would death be sad? I was never made for life, life was a mistake for me. Why do our societies think that life is necessarily a good thing? Why not admit that it's not for everyone?

This post is not very helpful, I agree. Just want to write this, because it resonates with me. I won't go on living if I don't want to. And I would like people to understand that even if it is impossible.

 

[MidnightDream]

It's entirely about perspective. For many people, suicide and death in general are viewed as a tragedy because it's almost always accompanied with grief. It's impossible to view it objectively, or even really begin to understand the person's perspective, if their minds are clouded by grief or other bias.

 

[Cryptonite]

One person dies every 1.8 seconds. If you look at it from this perspective, death is not tragic. It is just a number. Also, let's not forget about wild animals who eat each other constantly and billions of animals who are killed every year to feed our species.

 

[flightless bird]

I think about the reaction of my loved ones. They won't understand, they'll think it's a tragedy, it's a shame, that I had my whole life ahead of me. But honestly, I don't see how my CTB would be tragic.

What if they understood? What would it change? They won't think "oh it's a tragedy", "oh it's a shame" or things like that. They will just suffer so much and they will miss you. The tragedy is them having to live without you.

 

[Ellipsis]

One person dies every 1.8 seconds. If you look at it from this perspective, death is not tragic. It is just a number. Also, let's not forget about wild animals who eat each other constantly and billions of animals who are killed every year to feed our species.

I couldn't have said it better!

 

[actual_fox]

I was never made for life, life was a mistake for me.

Same brother, same.

I think similarly about my ctb. Of course this will be terrible loss to my family. But I personally would not view this as my loss, perhaps loss of some things would make me sad.

Why would death be sad? I was never made for life, life was a mistake for me. Why do our societies think that life is necessarily a good thing? Why not admit that it's not for everyone?

I think It is because we are attached to parents when we are young and their death would mean that we would die too. Also any damage to a body is painful and thus we imagine death as extremely painful. Plus all of that evolution that made death look like a failure. I remember as I kid and teenager I have put my survival above all else in my mind.

Societies need people who live and If suicide was not discouraged heavily in middle ages the kings would starve as most of plebs would kill themselves- I think It would be like that. Suicide is also bad to economy- dead do not consoome nor pay taxes. Dead people don't produce offspring. Depressed people make great consumers and create markets for legal and illegal drugs. People who will never ctb are the ones who will do anything to survive If they find themselves in hopeless situation.

I think mostly the selection occurs naturally as people are trapped in schools with demons called teenagers and those who do not fit are bullied into oblivion. From there they know their place in life and will kill themselves or just live on low profile. They might recover too, who know- that can happen and It is also beautiful. Some do not survive.

 

[Forever Sleep]

One person dies every 1.8 seconds. If you look at it from this perspective, death is not tragic. It is just a number. Also, let's not forget about wild animals who eat each other constantly and billions of animals who are killed every year to feed our species.

True but I think it's still sad for the creatures that understand death and mourn the ones they lost. Ever seen elephants come across elephant bones? They seem to understand what they are. Pets (which are arguably more 'humanised') sometimes lose the will to live when they're owners die.

Sure- we're all grains of sand at the end of the day but sadly, we feel emotion and loss and that's what makes it feel tragic.

 

[Ellipsis]

Same brother, same.

I think similarly about my ctb. Of course this will be terrible loss to my family. But I personally would not view this as my loss, perhaps loss of some things would make me sad.

I think It is because we are attached to parents when we are young and their death would mean that we would die too. Also any damage to a body is painful and thus we imagine death as extremely painful. Plus all of that evolution that made death look like a failure. I remember as I kid and teenager I have put my survival above all else in my mind.

Societies need people who live and If suicide was not discouraged heavily in middle ages the kings would starve as most of plebs would kill themselves- I think It would be like that. Suicide is also bad to economy- dead do not consoome nor pay taxes. Dead people don't produce offspring. Depressed people make great consumers and create markets for legal and illegal drugs. People who will never ctb are the ones who will do anything to survive If they find themselves in hopeless situation.

I think mostly the selection occurs naturally as people are trapped in schools with demons called teenagers and those who do not fit are bullied into oblivion. From there they know their place in life and will kill themselves or just live on low profile. They might recover too, who know- that can happen and It is also beautiful. Some do not survive.

I see what you mean, and at the same time I tell myself that my relatives don't really know me, don't know who I am. They love me because they are close to me but that's it. They don't know a lot of things, especially that I haven't always been made for life. They "love" someone who was never alive, it's strange.

I think a bit like you. I am convinced that if suicide was not seen as a failure, was not stigmatized, a lot of people would end their day. This would not be good for the economy, hence the establishment of public health policies relating to suicide. The idea of natural selection is also interesting, I have nothing to do in this world, I might as well leave it to those who thrive in it.

 

[Unending]

they'll think it's a tragedy, it's a shame, that I had my whole life ahead of me

As far as I am concerned or would like to let anyone know in a posthumous note, my death will not be a tragedy. The real tragedy was life. all the pain and suffering, for what? Never feeling like I belonged in school, at work, around friends, around the house... Experiencing the most concentrated manifestation of doom and despair that I never knew was possible to feel even when I already though it couldn't get anymore torturous, the genuine feeling of life itself feeling comparable to how religious folks describe hell. Yeah, no. Life is the tragedy in my book. Death is the one salvation that I'm currently aware of.

 

[actual_fox]

I see what you mean, and at the same time I tell myself that my relatives don't really know me, don't know who I am. They love me because they are close to me but that's it. They don't know a lot of things, especially that I haven't always been made for life. They "love" someone who was never alive, it's strange.

I think a bit like you. I am convinced that if suicide was not seen as a failure, was not stigmatized, a lot of people would end their day. This would not be good for the economy, hence the establishment of public health policies relating to suicide. The idea of natural selection is also interesting, I have nothing to do in this world, I might as well leave it to those who thrive in it.

I feel partially that my family looks at me as a thing that gives them pride and expect me to do things. So that is a part of the sadness: undelivered grand-grandkids, unfinished education, no engineering degree, no success, no friends or cool stories to tell, noting interesting, no family success halo that would prove them that they themselves made something great. Sad to say but this things are important to parents and grandparents also to those who associate with us. They like either to have a friends equally as miserable or one who gives halo of success. I understand there could not be any other way in material world where everything is success or failure.

 

[FuneralCry]

I agree with what you are saying. At least to me there is absolutely nothing tragic about suicide in any way, it could never be. Like death could never be a negative thing, as it's freedom from the burden that is existence and it's the end of all human torment, and it's such a natural thing to die, it's simply inevitable for all living beings. I find it tragic how life evolved in such a way so that all this endless suffering exists, birth is the tragic thing, not death, as creating life inevitably leads to unnecessary problems that will be inevitably experienced by living beings. Life should have never existed at all.

I think all of the 'life must be prolonged views and suicide must be prevented' views are centred around delusion, people glorify life as after all this existence is all that they know, and maybe they fear death and the thought of being insignificant. Like maybe they view suicide as being 'tragic' as it has a negative impact on them and they lack understanding as to what the person went through in life. But at least to me there are no negative words associated with suicide, leaving this world is ideal to me, I simply don't want to exist at all and could never do and if people continue to believe in delusions about life then it would just cause them to suffer more in the end.