Why there is a lot of ppl in doubt of SN?

[Qverty7455]

Hello so I am new but I had done a lot of research since I've been depressed. I don't think you can say there is a best method to CTB but I guess everyone would agree that N seems the best but is probably the hardest to obtain. But I heard about the SN there first 2 days ago and did a little bit of research, but found out a lot of ppl don't like this method and I was wondering why? I read some stories about ppl who tried it and survived but no one told there was any extreme pain etc, I don't recall anyone saying there was any pain at all but ppl been sympathizing with hanging more than with Sn. I mean yes you need to get 2 more pills preferably for SN but still I guess ppl CTB even without them. And I tried hanging and trust me there is pain and it's harder to do and it's not very peacefull (maybe partial is but I was never able to go off while partial). So can anyone tell me for sure why people say SN isn't painless and don't want to choose this method (I don't count headache as pain only as unpleasant experience). I am not forcing anyone to try this method or choose it, I am trying to find more information because I might use it in the future so I want to know your idea.
Take care friends.♥

 

[sleepy dog]

Reports by actual users of SN states there is no pain or headache. I am referring only to the reports I have read. It takes a long time to read all the posts on here. One did report his chest was warm or hot, he didn't use the word painful. Some seem to think it is unreliable because the user can vomit. One person reported survival and 2 weeks of no appetite. One reported hearing ringing sounds and muffled noises.

 

[Qverty7455]

Reports by actual users of SN states there is no pain or headache. I am referring only to the reports I have read. It takes a long time to read all the posts on here. One did report his chest was warm or hot, he didn't use the word painful. Some seem to think it is unreliable because the user can vomit. One person reported survival and 2 weeks of no appetite. One reported hearing ringing sounds and muffled noises.

you can vomit on N aswell :) but thanks for the others :)

 

[alexithymia]

There was a thread that listed users who had used SN, successfully or otherwise. I wish I could find it because it was really informative.

 

[Qverty7455]

There was a thread that listed users who had used SN, successfully or otherwise. I wish I could find it because it was really informative.

yes it would be very helpful because there is so much threads about it and I am kinda lost

 

[Rocksandsand]

It's my chosen method. I think the hesitation comes from the preparation surrounding it's use. It's not a method that can be rushed, which I think makes people reluctant

 

[Qverty7455]

It's my chosen method. I think the hesitation comes from the preparation surrounding it's use. It's not a method that can be rushed, which I think makes people reluctant

I am thinking about it right now aswell...wanted to do carbon monoxide via charcoal burning but it's risky...my dream method is N or fentanyl but I don't know how to get these :(
I can buy SN 99% on internet in our country but the other 2 products are problem...no idea where to get them

 

[MercuryAce]

There was a thread that listed users who had used SN, successfully or otherwise. I wish I could find it because it was really informative.

I believe this is what you're looking for.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/members-attempting-with-sn-success-failure.22018/

 

[alexithymia]

I believe this is what you're looking for.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/members-attempting-with-sn-success-failure.22018/

It is. Thank you so much.

 

[Dubs]

I am using SN, and I would go so far as to predict it will become the preferred method over even N. Here are some ways SN beats even N:

-SN has less volume to drink (as little as 75ml). With N you have to chug a lot from the standard supplier.
-SN doesn't taste nearly as bad as N and can even be put into capsules if you are sensitive. (all accounts put N as an absolutely terrible taste).
-SN has an unlimited shelf life! Buy it once and you are ready to go.
-SN is legal! You can just order it on Amazon with your AmEx, put in on your work desk, and tell everyone (including police) to shut the god damn fuck up!
-SN is cheap as fuck! I didn't even have to budget it, it is the cost of a single lunch or maybe dinner.
-SN gets delivered 100% of the time! No arguing with overseas dealers, UPS, your local Judge, the FBI. Hell you can file a complaint if it doesn't come fast enough.
-I prefer the pass out time with SN (10-20 minutes) over N (2-5 minutes). I would like to relax for a little and not be rushed.

SN matches N on all other variables:

-Very deadly if procedure is followed (SN procedure might be slightly more fragile, but researchers have it pretty well figured out).
-Peaceful (there are no accounts of significant pain from SN, one user even described it as "pleasant").
-No damage from failed attempts (we have no record of permanent damage from SN).

I think SN is pretty much the best way to go.

 

[Neville1]

There are 2 concerns about SN. One is vomiting; 2 taking stat dose of meto vomited violently and were taken to emergency care. Without antiemetics and fasting, vomiting is likely. The other is doubts about it's peacefulness. PN says all 6 Exit monitored deaths were peaceful. But members report nausea, headache, blurry vision and tachycardia. It's death by hypoxia without the sedation of N. Taking some sedatives should help.

There are more member reports of death by SN this year than by N, by necessity, not by preference; access is much greater.

@Qverty7455
You can request PM from community for help in finding acid reducer and antiemetic based on your general location, EU, US, etc.

 

[Stan]

You will find some scare stories around as well. You can't really say whether they are true or false. But my gold plated response to such questions is to look at @Funkygibbon stories. He tried it a few times, made a terrible mistake with one attempt which was nothing to do with SN, rather than him leaving his home to have a smoke and collapse. If he did it more than once without recording pain then it's a good example. But I do get a bit tired when people say 'it makes you go blind' or 'it gives you the worst pain' without being able to point back to the source information to verify it. its why I changed the legend under my name to factoid hunter

 

[Heart of Ice]

It's a somewhat unknown substance. I, myself, would be much more confident if I had, let's say, potassium cyanide.

 

[Trainwreck]

You will find some scare stories around as well. You can't really say whether they are true or false. But my gold plated response to such questions is to look at @Funkygibbon stories. He tried it a few times, made a terrible mistake with one attempt which was nothing to do with SN, rather than him leaving his home to have a smoke and collapse. If he did it more than once without recording pain then it's a good example. But I do get a bit tired when people say 'it makes you go blind' or 'it gives you the worst pain' without being able to point back to the source information to verify it. its why I changed the legend under my name to factoid hunter

This is the post where the guy went temporarily blind. However, it doesn't sound like he was blind when he woke up in the hospital, so at least it was very transient: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/took-sn-heres-my-story.15395/

Another thing, when they gave me 10mg of meto in the hospital, I felt agitated and had this sense of impending doom. The nurse injected it slowly because she said a fast injection would have me climbing the walls. This makes me wonder about people who take a stat dose of meto without testing first. Perhaps part of the discomfort and panic some suffer from has more to do with the mega dose of meto they put in their system vs. it being completely SNs fault.

 

[Stan]

Another thing, when they gave me 10mg of meto in the hospital, I felt agitated and had this sense of impending doom. The nurse injected it slowly because she said a fast injection would have me climbing the walls. This makes me wonder about people who take a stat dose of meto without testing first. Perhaps part of the discomfort and panic some suffer from has more to do with the mega dose of meto they put in their system vs. it being completely SNs fault.

That is a really good point. Quite a few people have advised taken one dose early to see how it interacts with you. On regards of the blindness, in everything I have read outside, it does not even factor in any of the symptoms recorded by doctors.

 

[SprocketFiend]

That is a really good point. Quite a few people have advised taken one dose early to see how it interacts with you. On regards of the blindness, in everything I have read outside, it does not even factor in any of the symptoms recorded by doctors.

Yes, that threw me for a loop as well. Do you think perhaps he experienced something like the temporary loss of vision you can get sometimes when you stand up suddenly and have low blood pressure? I think that jives with how SN works.

 

[TowerUpright]

You will find some scare stories around as well. You can't really say whether they are true or false. But my gold plated response to such questions is to look at @Funkygibbon stories. He tried it a few times, made a terrible mistake with one attempt which was nothing to do with SN, rather than him leaving his home to have a smoke and collapse. If he did it more than once without recording pain then it's a good example. But I do get a bit tired when people say 'it makes you go blind' or 'it gives you the worst pain' without being able to point back to the source information to verify it. its why I changed the legend under my name to factoid hunter

There is a need article from a Chinese website that referred to a few people committing suicide via SN. They also refer to the pain as the worst imaginable. I don't believe the source for a second, but I think that is where that rumour came from.

I, myself, think it's very peaceful: Wikipedia mentions SN as being considered as a peaceful euthanasia method for Wild Boars in Texas, I believe. And, us Americans are often more humane to animals than our fellow mankind.

HTH.

 

[Stan]

Yes, that threw me for a loop as well. Do you think perhaps he experienced something like the temporary loss of vision you can get sometimes when you stand up suddenly and have low blood pressure? I think that jives with how SN works.

I know that the headache that sometimes comes with SN is through the result of low blood pressure for sure. Some symptoms may come on through anxiety or extreme stress. Really hard to say why this user reported blindness as its absolutely unique in my research.

 

[wendydong1]

I am beginning to doubt N... Two people on here failed with liquid N. One could not stand the taste. One just threw up...

 

[Stan]

I am beginning to doubt N... Two people on here failed with liquid N. One could not stand the taste. One just threw up...

Are you mixing up N with SN?

 

[wendydong1]

Are you mixing up N with SN?

No. This lady from Europe said she could not finish liquid N because of taste. Blackjack and I both replied to her post.

Now this guy who drank N couple days ago just updated his thread about throwing up his N...

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

If only N and SN actually tasted like candy. Members would drop like flies.

 

[Stan]

No. This lady from Europe said she could not finish liquid N because of taste. Blackjack and I both replied to her post.

Now this guy who drank N couple days ago just updated his thread about throwing up his N...

Well I don't know what to say, if you are concerned about the one method that everyone here is desperate to get their hands on I am not sure what to say. Perhaps preparing yourself now by drinking a few bitter things to get used to the sensation and take the antiemetics.

 

[Trainwreck]

I also wonder if the blindness was his body getting ready to pass out. Others have talked about their vision getting fuzzy. The person who was hearing weird sounds suffers from psychosis (if I'm remembering correctly). So if you don't have serious psychological problems, that's probably not a side effect to worry about.

No. This lady from Europe said she could not finish liquid N because of taste. Blackjack and I both replied to her post.

Now this guy who drank N couple days ago just updated his thread about throwing up his N...

Did they take an anti nausea beforehand? If I had N, I'd definitely take my chances with it before any other method.

 

[Stan]

I also wonder if the blindness was his body getting ready to pass out. Others have talked about their vision getting fuzzy. The person who was hearing weird sounds suffers from psychosis (if I'm remembering correctly). So if you don't have serious psychological problems, that's probably not a side effect to worry about.

Very good point! Many people faint on a daily basis through low pressure. As I have said far too many times and is quickly forgotten, the Exit group did observe six deaths through SN poisoning which is why they are classing it as peaceful.

 

[sleepy dog]

No. This lady from Europe said she could not finish liquid N because of taste. Blackjack and I both replied to her post.

Now this guy who drank N couple days ago just updated his thread about throwing up his N...

The one person seems to have been saying they tasted the N, not that they drank all of it, and they spit it out. If that's what happened they did not succeed with it because they did not try it.

The other person's, Stendhal, first statement in that post was that they did not take the recommended amount of the Metoclopramide.

 

[wendydong1]

The one person seems to have been saying they tasted the N, not that they drank all of it, and they spit it out. If that's what happened they did not succeed with it because they did not try it.

The other person's, Stendhal, first statement in that post was that they did not take the recommended amount of the Metoclopramide.

No, blackjack tasted N. But both she and I replied to a poster here from Netherlands? That person couldn't finish the 200 ml and force vomited the N

 

[sleepy dog]

I was not talking about Blackjack.

 

[wendydong1]

The one person seems to have been saying they tasted the N, not that they drank all of it, and they spit it out. If that's what happened they did not succeed with it because they did not try it.

The other person's, Stendhal, first statement in that post was that they did not take the recommended amount of the Metoclopramide.

And I have never heard a 120 g meto for N. The dosage Stendhal listed seem like an overkill.

I actually asked a question about meto for N here. I was told that N is different from SN, and I don't need the 3 day régime.

 

[Stan]

I actually asked a question about meto for N here. I was told that N is different from SN, and I don't need the 3 day régime.

I can only suggest you really need to do some research Wendy, it is a huge thing you are doing and I would suggest you be comfortable in every aspect of any method