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gatzzz

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May 22, 2022
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I just found this forum and was kinda surprised about the constant wish for a peaceful and painless ctb at all cost.

There's nothing wrong with that
of course but for me personally I always thought that if i can't handle the pain, then I'm not ready for it.

Also it scares me how these methods with easy accessibility
can be used by teenagers who think
"this is the only way out"
Not realizing that their lives might completely change later on.
(I guess that's the internet for ya)

Anyway if you really want this,
The more painless it is,
The better it is for you and your relatives.
 
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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
This post really sounds like your one of those reporters from the NY Times haha. New member and asking weird questions man.

1: Why afraid of pain? Because certainly every human is? Are you not, didn't you ever experience pain or what?

2: Teenagers? Yes, but this is a big problem of the internet in general. Teenagers also can access gore and porn without any problems. I wish it would be different in this case, but the government has to work on a solution, not us. Also another thing, a teenager wouldn't be able to pay for stuff like SN or N.
 
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The Abyss

The Abyss

Why're we still here, just to suffer?
Dec 19, 2019
260
To look for the pain would be the path of the masochist & if you were that way you'd enjoy suffering thus therefore not want to die?

Pain = prevention, a hurdle.
 
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HeavenOnlyKnows

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Apr 17, 2022
8
People off themselves because they're tired of being in pain...some methods make you linger for days, if not weeks or months if not immediately successful. Who in the world would want that?
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,429
Survival instinct.
 
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Seeking_Peace

Arcanist
May 18, 2022
476
I just found this forum and was kinda surprised about the constant wish for a peaceful and painless ctb at all cost.

There's nothing wrong with that
of course but for me personally I always thought that if i can't handle the pain, then I'm not ready for it.

Also it scares me how these methods with easy accessibility
can be used by teenagers who think
"this is the only way out"
Not realizing that their lives might completely change later on.
(I guess that's the internet for ya)

Anyway if you really want this,
The more painless it is,
The better it is for you and your relatives.
I think it stems from a vanity standpoint. People don't want their bodies to look damaged. Maybe they want an open casket. Vanity in life and death.
 
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°Celsuis_Caesar

°Celsuis_Caesar

Sanctioned Suicide is well worth a mass
Jan 10, 2022
187
Yes, Survival Instinct (S.I.)

Most people want a slice of Painlessness at the end of a life mostly dominated by painfullness
 
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FractalTears

FractalTears

Member
Feb 4, 2022
51
There's nothing wrong with wanting a painless method, after all we're all wired to dislike pain, at least most of us.
 
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Darkover

Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,472
pain hurts we are all at the mercy of our emotions, pain isn't real tho i mean it's just a chemical released into the body all you have to do is block the chemicals and there is no pain,we can lose a arm or leg or eye while the damage is real the pain should come to pass within time, toothache is mostly pointless yet we all go through it, i just wish i could escape this emotional control no more feeling hungry or toothache the day we get to change that is the day i would want to be around to see it.
 
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savoytruffle

savoytruffle

Student
Mar 31, 2022
197
Survival instinct, nothing wrong with not wanting pain in my last moments when half my life has been nothing but pain
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
11,701
I fear pain because it's painful!

Think we all fear unknowns- especially when they might involve physical damage to ourselves- that's instinctual and hard to overcome... The survival instinct.

I don't think it's just fear of pain though- I think it's also resentment. In many countries (including mine), assisted suicide (perhaps the ultimate peaceful death) is illegal. In countries where it is legal, it is heavily restricted. (I can see the arguments for and against this.)

I think a lot of people on here (including me) feel like it should be our own decision to die- for whatever reason- we don't feel like we want to go on living anymore.

It can feel like society/religion traps us into continuing with our miserable lives by denying peaceful methods of exit- leaving mostly violent or possibly unreliable methods.

While I do get the reasoning for this- I do acknowledge that there are vulnerable members of society that may be unable to make such a decision, it can almost feel oppressive to the rest of us- who probably feel like our decision is rational.

We don't want to suffer in our deaths because I suppose most of us have suffered in our lives- one way or the other.
 
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gatzzz

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May 22, 2022
8
This post really sounds like your one of those reporters from the NY Times haha. New member and asking weird questions man.

1: Why afraid of pain? Because certainly every human is? Are you not, didn't you ever experience pain or what?

2: Teenagers? Yes, but this is a big problem of the internet in general. Teenagers also can access gore and porn without any problems. I wish it would be different in this case, but the government has to work on a solution, not us. Also another thing, a teenager wouldn't be able to pay for stuff like SN or N.
My english is not very good so sorry for sounding like a pro life reporter haha.

1.There's no shame wanting a painless death.
Maybe I'm a weirdo when i think that it doesn't matter because you aren't gonna remember it anyway.

2. True i just said this to have people talk about it. I still think it's a part of free speech so there isn't much we can do about it.
 
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xo777

are we almost there?
Apr 5, 2022
170
Survival instinct.
Who wants pain in their last moments?
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,589
I just think that it is harder to go through with ctb if the only methods are painful. I think that if I planned to ctb by a very painful method I would be worried about backing out of my attempt because of the survival instinct. I believe that I deserve a peaceful death and if I had the option of a peaceful exit, it would be comforting. My ideal way to die is falling asleep and never waking up.
 
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Hirokami

Hirokami

Out of order
Feb 21, 2021
607
Honestly, I wish I couldn't feel pain. Ctb would be so much easier, especially since the human body has so many weak points. Unfortunately, that's not my reality. Pain would only exacerbate my survival instincts, causing me to back out immediately several times. Not only would that cause a significant amount of stress, there's also a real chance I'd end up damaging myself because I backed out ... Maybe even permanently.
 
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Hercules

Hercules

Arcanist
Jan 31, 2021
408
I just found this forum and was kinda surprised about the constant wish for a peaceful and painless ctb at all cost.

There's nothing wrong with that
of course but for me personally I always thought that if i can't handle the pain, then I'm not ready for it.

Anyway if you really want this,
The more painless it is,
The better it is for you and your relatives.
People don't enjoy pain and suffering. It's not normal for someone to want to deliberately cause themselves extreme pain and suffering when they can easily avoid it.

Why shouldn't someone want to die the most peaceful death possible? People who are are driven to suicide have already suffered enough. They have already suffered more than they could bear and can't take anymore, which is why they are commiting suicide in the first place. They don't deserve to have to suffer more pain than necessary just for the sake of suffering. They deserve to at least die a peaceful death. The dying process is stressful enough. Suicide is not a contest and not the time to see who can be the most macho and stupid when chosing a method.

There are many people on this forum who suffer severe chronic pain from an illness or an injury. It is one of the reasons they are on here. You are very fortunate that you have never experienced pain that is severe and prolonged and have no idea what it is like. If you knew what it was like to have to live like that everyday, you wouldn't post something insensitive like this.
 
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Atlantian

Atlantian

Member
May 25, 2022
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This guy is asking why people don't want to experience pain. Are you actually slow in the head or do you have another agenda behind this question?
 
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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
My english is not very good so sorry for sounding like a pro life reporter haha.

1.There's no shame wanting a painless death.
Maybe I'm a weirdo when i think that it doesn't matter because you aren't gonna remember it anyway.

2. True i just said this to have people talk about it. I still think it's a part of free speech so there isn't much we can do about it.
Ah ok, then I understood you wrong. Also I don't think of them as "pro life" guys. There is nothing wrong with being pro life if the person wants it obviously. I think of those guys as "anti-choice", because living on is always/ no matter what the best solution to those guys.
 
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gatzzz

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May 22, 2022
8
People don't enjoy pain and suffering. It's not normal for someone to want to deliberately cause themselves extreme pain and suffering when they can easily avoid it.

Why shouldn't someone want to die the most peaceful death possible? People who are are driven to suicide have already suffered enough. They have already suffered more than they could bear and can't take anymore, which is why they are commiting suicide in the first place. They don't deserve to have to suffer more pain than necessary just for the sake of suffering. They deserve to at least die a peaceful death. The dying process is stressful enough. Suicide is not a contest and not the time to see who can be the most macho and stupid when chosing a method.

There are many people on this forum who suffer severe chronic pain from an illness or an injury. It is one of the reasons they are on here. You are very fortunate that you have never experienced pain that is severe and prolonged and have no idea what it is like. If you knew what it was like to have to live like that everyday, you wouldn't post something insensitive like this.

You got me all wrong read the post again.
All I was saying that maybe some of you don't want death enough if you can't feel the pain that comes with it.
In my post I never glorify pain or tell you to seek it purposefully.

I'm a lifelong drug addict overdosed on amphetamine many times which is why I suffer from cardiac arrhythmia so i know something about prolonged pain although i hate to bring that up for "pity points"

I'm sure this forum has people way worse off than me and i hope they don't have to feel any unnecessary pain in life or death.
 
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rationaltake

rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
2,707
This post really sounds like your one of those reporters from the NY Times haha. New member and asking weird questions man.

1: Why afraid of pain? Because certainly every human is? Are you not, didn't you ever experience pain or what?

2: Teenagers? Yes, but this is a big problem of the internet in general. Teenagers also can access gore and porn without any problems. I wish it would be different in this case, but the government has to work on a solution, not us. Also another thing, a teenager wouldn't be able to pay for stuff like SN or N.
Ha ha. Like your take on it.
 
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Trilucid

Trilucid

Member
May 25, 2022
69
Not a bad stance with the relatives concept. However, sometimes it's better to leave things as they are and not care so much for others, close family members or not.
Pain - It sends and impulse to your mind or brain. Triggering the centuries of evolution based SI and so on.
I feel as if at one point though, when a person has had "enough" they will not fear the pain as much. Heck, they may even welcome it.
Compared to the horrors life has to offer, in the end, the need to escape will outweigh whatever potential pain a person can experience during suicide.
 
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lofticries

lofticries

obedear
Feb 27, 2021
1,470
Pain causes a lot of anxiety which increases si which might cause you to botch up your method.

Also so long as teens can access the net they pretty much can do anything they like. It's not like this site is being advertised on tiktok where teens and kids primarily are.

Shit I only know of this site because of a vice article.
 
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jimmy7754

jimmy7754

I just want to be myself again
Dec 15, 2021
508
I'm ready to fly with Jesus in heaven.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
8,459
I don't like pain now, whether it be a headache, a joint ache, a heart ache, whatever. I've had enough pain and want a painless death, or as near to one as I can get.

As far as teenagers on this site................yeah, I agree it sucks. They haven't lived long enough to make a decision like this of such magnitude. Things can get better and often do. I went off once on some teenager posting on this site seeking advice about how to kill himself. I got a nifty little 10% warning message from one of the mods saying I was "over the top" or something like that. It pisses me off seeing the young people want to take their own lives without hardly doing any living at all. Hell, the brain isn't even fully developed until like 25 or 26 years old. Teenage angst has been around forever and will be around forever. I know it sucks, and it sucks more for some than for others. I don't now what has happened, but there wasn't the number of teenage suicides back when I was in high school like there is today. Something has changed and it needs to be figured out. Personally, I feel that with everyone online now most of the time, on their phones, that they aren't developing the coping mechanisms to deal with the things life throws at everyone, skills that used to be learned by having real life interactions with other people. Rant over.
 
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watchingthewheels

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Jan 23, 2021
1,415
Why are people afraid of pain? BECAUSE IT !@#$% HURTS!!!

You're welcome.
 
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YourNeighbor

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Jul 22, 2021
423
Is this a rhetorical question, like "Why are there so many dumb threads on this forum?"
 
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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
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Pain avoidance is pretty much a human trait everywhere. I've wondered what makes it possible for extreme endurance athletes to overcome the "pain cave" that comes with doing something like running 100 miles, say. The great majority of people quit when things get that uncomfortable.

Similarly, the majority—even among suicidal people—don't actually go on to complete. It may well turn out it comes down to genetics, if you haven't the genes to push through, you won't. Most methods wouldn't be more painful than a broken leg, many less so. Now fear is a different thing entirely. That's the tough one. You either have it, or you don't…
 
its-about-time

its-about-time

nope
Mar 19, 2022
807
True to my masochistic nature, part of me is very curious about dying a painful or violent death, and occasionally considers it just to have the experience. But, saner winds generally prevail, and I, too, want a method that's fast and as painless as possible. With my SN I anticipate some pain and displeasure, like nausea and vomiting, but I can embrace that well enough.
 
newave3

newave3

I want out
Nov 21, 2020
2,802
I don't like pain now, whether it be a headache, a joint ache, a heart ache, whatever. I've had enough pain and want a painless death, or as near to one as I can get.

As far as teenagers on this site................yeah, I agree it sucks. They haven't lived long enough to make a decision like this of such magnitude. Things can get better and often do. I went off once on some teenager posting on this site seeking advice about how to kill himself. I got a nifty little 10% warning message from one of the mods saying I was "over the top" or something like that. It pisses me off seeing the young people want to take their own lives without hardly doing any living at all. Hell, the brain isn't even fully developed until like 25 or 26 years old. Teenage angst has been around forever and will be around forever. I know it sucks, and it sucks more for some than for others. I don't now what has happened, but there wasn't the number of teenage suicides back when I was in high school like there is today. Something has changed and it needs to be figured out. Personally, I feel that with everyone online now most of the time, on their phones, that they aren't developing the coping mechanisms to deal with the things life throws at everyone, skills that used to be learned by having real life interactions with other people. Rant over.
But it was a damn good rant.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
8,459
But it was a damn good rant.
Why, thank you. And every word was from my heart. That's how I feel. No apologies. These kids just need to understand that there are assholes in this world and, eventually, those assholes will be out of their lives. That's only for the ones who get picked on, though. I know that some kids have much different reasons for wanting to ctb, maybe severe health issues, or abuse in their homes, maybe from a family member. That's an entirely different animal.
 
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