Why Not Fentanyl?

[TiredHorse]

Why isn't as popular an option as N?

As lethal as it is in such very small doses, and as internationally available as it sounds as though it must be on the street market, I'm surprised more people aren't exploring that option. Is it an unpleasant way to ctb? Prohibitively expensive? Too difficult to obtain from a reliable source?

Can anyone educate me on this?

 

[MAIO]

Why isn't as popular an option as N?

As lethal as it is in such very small doses, and as internationally available as it sounds as though it must be on the street market, I'm surprised more people aren't exploring that option. Is it an unpleasant way to ctb? Prohibitively expensive? Too difficult to obtain from a reliable source?

Can anyone educate me on this?

It's relatively easy to obtain on the black market reliable and better than painless an actual euphoric death. The main issue is the legal statues against is crazy. Get caught with it In America and you will end up in jail.

 

[Retched]

It's a damn shame all this stuff isn't just sold out of vending machines.

 

[TiredHorse]

So it's an easily-obtainable euphoric bus ticket --and shunned because it's illegal?

As opposed to Nembutol, so nasty it requires anti-emetics, expensive and ridiculously difficult to acquire --and also illegal?

I must admit, I'm a bit confused.

Why isn't Exit finding, nurturing, and advertising suppliers for F the way they do for N?

 

[TheLastTrip]

I seriously considered it when I started researching my trip. There were reports of people dying right outside their dealers house as it was so strong. My master plan was to go to the places that say they are 'plagued' by it, and find drug users (dodgy as hell) and offer to buy them F if they also got me some/put me in contact with their dealer.

It sounds harsh, but they'd be so desperate for a fix they'd probably do it, especially if I offered to buy them a bunch, or give them a bunch of cash so they could get enough for days of use.

 

[TheLastTrip]

I saw a thread on here saying that fake Fentanyl is rampant. I imagine it is like ecstasy, probably cut to oblivion with all sorts of crap to make it stretch out a lot more, thus you have no idea how much you really have when you have some pills, that's the difference, buying N from an official source means you're guaranteed lab quality, buying random pills from some shady dealer is a lot different.

Oh, and people importing N have really only had a slap on the wrist I believe from looking in the handbook, if you try to import F and it gets caught, you are in serious crap.

 

[Finallyhere]

It goes for $80 for 100 mg around here. Everyone is afraid to sell it because they don't want an OD being traced back to them. Very likely it's being cut with crap too.

 

[Trashcan]

I have no idea how I would obtain it. Plus you never know how authentic a street drug is.

 

[TiredHorse]

Right. That makes sense. Quality control would definitely be a sticking point. N is, as you say, lab quality.

No, I wouldn't have any idea how to obtain it, either.

I wonder if an enterprising illegal F lab would be willing to set up a special ctb account. What would make it worth their while to make lab quality F for people intending to ctb, and get "certified" by Exit?

 

[Fcancer]

Do you have to melt down the patches and then shoot it up??

 

[meowcat]

Right. That makes sense. Quality control would definitely be a sticking point. N is, as you say, lab quality.

No, I wouldn't have any idea how to obtain it, either.

I wonder if an enterprising illegal F lab would be willing to set up a special ctb account. What would make it worth their while to make lab quality F for people intending to ctb, and get "certified" by Exit?

hahaha..A special ctb account!

 

[voool]

So it's an easily-obtainable euphoric bus ticket --and shunned because it's illegal?

As opposed to Nembutol, so nasty it requires anti-emetics, expensive and ridiculously difficult to acquire --and also illegal?

I must admit, I'm a bit confused.

Why isn't Exit finding, nurturing, and advertising suppliers for F the way they do for N?

Other books mention many opiates as ways to exit.

 

[voool]

Guide to a humane self chosen death. Mentions fentanyl, morphine, methadone, and one other.

Everyone here reads the peaceful pill handbook for some reason.

 

[voool]

Here

 

[voool]

Be sure you pass out though since a friend says not being able to breathe is scary.

 

[worldexploder]

It seems to be a far better option than heroin. Someone on SS posted an article about 2 doctors who overdosed on Fentanyl due to terminal illnesses.

If you're like me and never injected themselves or did hard drugs, this method could be intimidating. Also I'd be afraid of getting knocked out with a non-lethal dose before I push the plunger down all the way.

 

[voool]

It seems to be a far better option than heroin. Someone on SS posted an article about 2 doctors who overdosed on Fentanyl due to terminal illnesses.

If you're like me and never injected themselves or did hard drugs, this method could be intimidating. Also I'd be afraid of getting knocked out with a non-lethal dose before I push the plunger down all the way.

You can snort fent. Also doing 150-300mg of heroin is the same thing

 

[worldexploder]

You can snort fent. Also doing 150-300mg of heroin is the same thing

Snorting it would be just as effective?

 

[TiredHorse]

From a tiny bit of research, snorting is the most effective delivery. Or at least the pharmaceutical nasal sprays are the most effective administrations. Personally, I like the idea of lots and lots of patches.

 

[rabid_squirrel]

I have some stupid questions as I have never had experiences with drugs before.
1.Even though street drugs are not pure,won't it still be lethal,if you take in a huge amount?
2.will I get addicted to heroin or Fentanyl or any other hardcore drugs if I don't die from overdose?I just don't want to add drug addiction to my messy life.

 

[Dani Paradox]

I'd be afraid to try to buy that stuff. It's not like you'd be able to test it first. You can't be certain that it's legit fentanyl, for one. And two, assuming it IS legit fentanyl and you try a tiny amount you might accidentally OD and wake up with brain damage instead. A few flakes of that shit can be too much. You never know what could happen. I'd be afraid to even go near it.

 

[BurningLights]

There was an interesting post in r/drugs about the whole fentanyl and China white stuff. I'll try and find it and post it.

 

[BurningLights]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/9woo9p/complex_reasons_fentanyl_mixes_are_the_first
Gives reason why fetanyl isn't always what its claimed to be.

 

[weedoge]

Snorting it would be just as effective?

No way, this thread is not good. Fentanyl is viable for suicide but certain routes of admission, while being faster, will also leave the bloodstream faster too. You can't just make random assumptions with this kind of stuff and hope for the best. You might end up doing a lot of damage without actually dying.

Buying it from a street dealer without some lab kit to test, for CTB purposes, is just outright a terrible idea. If you can find a supplier on the darknet or such and confirm that they're 99% not a scammer, then it's viable. However it's something you want to research a lot more because of the stuff I said above. If you're afraid of things such as what Dani mentioned, the powder being so strong that you might do some damage or even kill yourself and then accidentally put people close to you at risk who may touch the substance without knowing. There are many many risks when dealing with strong illegit powders. Another option is fentanyl patches, these are a real medicine and probably a bit easier to get hold of than pure fent, I'm certain I read a case of someone who suicided with these patches by simply applying more than the recommended dose. As mentioned by @VanHeineken here https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-by-fentanyl-patch-overdose.1602/

However,
fentanyl overdose has also been reported in cases of
excessive transdermal application and ingestion or
inhalation of transdermal patches (5-8).

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5930713_Suicide_by_Fentanyl
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Fentanyl

Hope this helps

edit: oh and my personal opinion? I think fent is quite possibly a really good method, people are just afraid of what they don't know and are unfamiliar with. There are innumerable cases of N deaths whereas fent deaths are mostly only ever reported as accidents, it's nowhere near comparable as a suicide drug of choice but with a little bit of research you can decide for yourself.

I worry of putting other people at risk and, more importantly something I never got an answer on when I was researching it back in the day, I worry that if the fent were to act too quickly then what if I were to suffocate due to respiratory depression before I even passed out?

 

[worldexploder]

No way, this thread is not good. Fentanyl is viable for suicide but certain routes of admission, while being faster, will also leave the bloodstream faster too. You can't just make random assumptions with this kind of stuff and hope for the best. You might end up doing a lot of damage without actually dying.

Buying it from a street dealer without some lab kit to test, for CTB purposes, is just outright a terrible idea. If you can find a supplier on the darknet or such and confirm that they're 99% not a scammer, then it's viable. However it's something you want to research a lot more because of the stuff I said above. If you're afraid of things such as what Dani mentioned, the powder being so strong that you might do some damage or even kill yourself and then accidentally put people close to you at risk who may touch the substance without knowing. There are many many risks when dealing with strong illegit powders. Another option is fentanyl patches, these are a real medicine and probably a bit easier to get hold of than pure fent, I'm certain I read a case of someone who suicided with these patches by simply applying more than the recommended dose. As mentioned by @VanHeineken here https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-by-fentanyl-patch-overdose.1602/



https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5930713_Suicide_by_Fentanyl
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Fentanyl

Hope this helps

edit: oh and my personal opinion? I think fent is quite possibly a really good method, people are just afraid of what they don't know and are unfamiliar with. There are innumerable cases of N deaths whereas fent deaths are mostly only ever reported as accidents, it's nowhere near comparable as a suicide drug of choice but with a little bit of research you can decide for yourself.

I worry of putting other people at risk and, more importantly something I never got an answer on when I was researching it back in the day, I worry that if the fent were to act too quickly then what if I were to suffocate due to respiratory depression before I even passed out?

Thank you. I'm a very cautious person and wouldn't do anything like that without a lot of research beforehand.

 

[Jai]

Why isn't as popular an option as N?

As lethal as it is in such very small doses, and as internationally available as it sounds as though it must be on the street market, I'm surprised more people aren't exploring that option. Is it an unpleasant way to ctb? Prohibitively expensive? Too difficult to obtain from a reliable source?

Can anyone educate me on this?

Would love to get my hands on the stuff but hard to obtain with dealers dark web black market etc do you know what your getting? Plus get caught with the stuff it's a felony so that's a huge risk but again if I had it I'd be in a hotel tanning the stuff and I'd buy a shit load mate

 

[weedoge]

Thank you. I'm a very cautious person and wouldn't do anything like that without a lot of research beforehand.

I should confirm by a not good thread I just meant some of the possibly misinformation being stated as fact, not the OP or questions or consideration of fent as a real viable method. I'm just extremely uncertain myself about insufflating anything as a suicide method, it's an unpredictable method of delivery from what little I know. Good luck.

 

[weedoge]

Would love to get my hands on the stuff but hard to obtain with dealers dark web black market etc do you know what your getting? Plus get caught with the stuff it's a felony so that's a huge risk but again if I had it I'd be in a hotel tanning the stuff and I'd buy a shit load mate

There are a few ways to decrease risk on the darknet, since a lot of people suggest it here I might make a little post sometime, if I ever get around to it, about how to be safe from scammers on the darknet. It's really just the same as if you were to buy from someone on ebay. There is always a risk but if someone has made 5000 sales and you can confirm in the feedback that they look like legit sales, they're a trusted vendor, etc etc, then the biggest risk you face is selective scamming or markets exiting during your sale taking place.

You can also buy test kits for basically any drug, online and legally, so if you were to risk trying to buy pure fent then you could go down this route. Otherwise you could try and find fent patches and then you'll at least be comforted by the packaging and knowing they're likely to be untampered with. Again, good luck.

 

[Jai]

Appreciate the inf

There are a few ways to decrease risk on the darknet, since a lot of people suggest it here I might make a little post sometime, if I ever get around to it, about how to be safe from scammers on the darknet. It's really just the same as if you were to buy from someone on ebay. There is always a risk but if someone has made 5000 sales and you can confirm in the feedback that they look like legit sales, they're a trusted vendor, etc etc, then the biggest risk you face is selective scamming or markets exiting during your sale taking place.

You can also buy test kits for basically any drug, online and legally, so if you were to risk trying to buy pure fent then you could go down this route. Otherwise you could try and find fent patches and then you'll at least be comforted by the packaging and knowing they're likely to be untampered with. Again, good luck.

Appreciate the info and feedback mate I've known and used drug dealers and dodgy charecters and they always mix their product. For this specific drug I'd want it to be pure or at least pure enough as for the dark Web my first exposure to it was films back in the day were you could accidentally come across a child porn site and the next thing the feds are kicking your door in so I've been very weary of it.

If you are to make a thread about it I'd look forward to your knowledge mate

 

[weedoge]

Appreciate the inf

Appreciate the info and feedback mate I've known and used drug dealers and dodgy charecters and they always mix their product. For this specific drug I'd want it to be pure or at least pure enough as for the dark Web my first exposure to it was films back in the day were you could accidentally come across a child porn site and the next thing the feds are kicking your door in so I've been very weary of it.

If you are to make a thread about it I'd look forward to your knowledge mate

lol I understand that too, don't start going to wikis or searching on the darknet, another user here pointed out that you can use http
://deepdotweb.com which is a clearnet site that provides the links for the marketplaces and you can guarantee they're not phishing links there (so long as you don't take them from the comments section lol). This way you can also avoid everything you don't want and just get dem drugz lol, good luck.

I'm really not sure about the rules on this kind of thing on the forum and I'm not really about to start talking about how to access the darknet and stuff, that is easily googled and I don't really fancy risking feds at my door either, but think I could easily give specific information on how to stay safe once you're there. Cheers bud tc