Discussion Why not do it through military?

[bass]

I always wondered how common is it to end it through military. It might be much easier for me because I'm Ukrainian and they are much more likely to send me into combat, but I'm pretty sure you can come in as a volunteer too. To me it sounds like a fun way to do it. I see videos of Russians shooting them selves through drone cameras , I always wonder is it because they came here wanting to die, or can they just not handle it ? Any thoughts?

 

[FakeProdigy]

I think the Russians shoot themselves when they get chased by drones because they know a bullet through the skull is a less painful way to die than getting blown up.

Anyway, as someone who's been through military training, it sounds like a pretty inefficient way to do it. I don't know about Ukraine but where I'm from you would have to fill out forms, wait for a recruiter to give you an appointment, get passed his interview, sign more forms, wait some more (weeks possibly months), get through medical and mental exams (wait weeks again), get a physical test, wait again, get sent to basic, wait weeks/month to even get to the point when they'll allow you access to a live firearm (all supervised), finish basic, wait weeks again, get sent to infantry training, and then you can start considering having a live weapon without constantly having someone breath down your neck 24/7. Though, you will never be alone, you'll never get peace or quiet, you'll always be in someone's sight since there's always fellow trainees with you and most armies implement the concept of a "battle buddy". Your battle buddy will follow you everywhere you go and vice-versa.

Honestly at that point after going through all of this you might not even feel like killing yourself anymore lol

 

[lpdsvm]

I fled Russia before the war. I don't know what those orcs think when they want to CTB. It could be a mix of both. If they come back they could be tortured by bigger orcs. Just for fun. Bunch of videos about it and stories.

 

[bass]

I think the Russians shoot themselves when they get chased by drones because they know a bullet through the skull is a less painful way to die than getting blown up.

Anyway, as someone who's been through military training, it sounds like a pretty inefficient way to do it. I don't know about Ukraine but where I'm from you would have to fill out forms, wait for a recruiter to give you an appointment, get passed his interview, sign more forms, wait some more (weeks possibly months), get through medical and mental exams (wait weeks again), get a physical test, wait again, get sent to basic, wait weeks/month to even get to the point when they'll allow you access to a live firearm (all supervised), finish basic, wait weeks again, get sent to infantry training, and then you can start considering having a live weapon without constantly having someone breath down your neck 24/7. Though, you will never be alone, you'll never get peace or quiet, you'll always be in someone's sight since there's always fellow trainees with you and most armies implement the concept of a "battle buddy". Your battle buddy will follow you everywhere you go and vice-versa.

Honestly at that point after going through all of this you might not even feel like killing yourself anymore lol

In case of Martial law i image the process would be much faster. I don't know about choosing to die from a self inflicted gunshot is a way to avoid a more painful death, i believe a person that truly wants to live (because of self preservation instinct, or actual will) would rather suffer even if it comes with a small chance of survival. There is definitely some acceptation of death before they are sent into frontlines. Could be total demoralization by Russian military protocols, because i cant imagine most Russian units there are doing it because of patriotism. A lot of them are middle age alcoholics from poor villages. So there might be no loyalty hance demoralization is what keeps them in line.

 

[Forveleth]

Go to the warfront to die, come back alive, with PTSD, and missing a leg.