Method Why isn’t the exit bag method more popular?

[Juliajulia]

I always thought this was a great method but haven't seen it mentioned on here at all. It looks a bit complicated I'll admit, with the gas flow and all, but it's fairly inexpensive and painless. Theories?

 

[SinisterKid]

It is probably more technical than a lot of people are comfortable with. For me personally, its not portable enough. SN I can take anywhere, exit bags dont give me that which is why I did not go with it.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

I think that overcoming SI would be a problem with this method, it is too easy to back out of once you have triggered the action - you just take the bag off - you will have a few seconds to change your mind. Whereas with other methods there is no going back once you have taken the initial action - such as ingesting a chemical/drug, or full-suspension hanging.

Also there is a risk of surviving with brain damage if you don't do it right.

I initially considered this method, but only in combination with a fatal drug overdose (blood pressure medication) to increase the overall probability of success.

 

[Stan]

It was actually the reason I came to this site. If you are confident you can buy the right stuff and put it together, I think it is a great method. I sadly saw that I have trouble doing shoe laces so I had to go with something easier.

 

[charlottewilts]

it is overly technical and will seem intimidating to many. and as the PPEH says, it is not viable to those with physical disabilities because of how much putting together it requires. also not viable to me because of mental disabilities lol. but seriously it is too complicated, and if you don't manage to get it working the first time it's money down the drain because of the gas you purchased

 

[C.Darko]

I'd rather be able to back out and just remove the bag than Have a massive Panic Attack/Possible public freakout if I have a change of heart after injesting a substance. But that's also why I agree it would have to be in combination with a shit ton of drugs that would relax me. (Like H) before going out.

And with SN the chances of being found looking like a dead smurf are pretty high. So at least with the Exit bag you have pretty good chances of having an open casket.

Also the fact that you may tear the bag off and wakeup like "well shit" leaves the "if its my time, it's my time" factor which for some reason appeals to me.

 

[Girobatol]

You need to live alone to do it, as a big tank will raise many questions if you live with someone.

 

[Meant2Die]

Too much assembly, also hard to get 100% helium since the Party Store (US) where they rent out helium tanks for making ballons changed their mix to 80%helium , 20% air. It says in the PPH that wont work. Wouldn't know where to get pure helium, or how to carry it since the tank would be pretty heavy and i'm physically ill, that wont work. Not to mention many people live with people so how do I explain having a helium tank in my room... without any birthdays (reasons to make ballons, hehe) coming up.

 

[Girobatol]

Too much assembly, also hard to get 100% helium since the Party Store (US) where they rent out helium tanks for making ballons changed their mix to 80%helium , 20% air. It says in the PPH that wont work. Wouldn't know where to get pure helium, or how to carry it since the tank would be pretty heavy and i'm physically ill, that wont work. Not to mention many people live with people so how do I explain having a helium tank in my room... without any birthdays (reasons to make ballons, hehe) coming up.

You can also use nitrogen and argon, both from the welding store and cheaper than helium.

 

[Reyki6667]

100% Pure gaz almost impossible to obtain.

 

[passenger27]

When I called about it, 2 full sized tanks of 100% helium at my local welding supply store was around $725. That included the flow regulator rental. I already had 2 but I didn't want to seem suspicious, since I said the helium was for a huge family function. 1 would've been plenty but the other was for my partner who wants to ctb too.

I told the guy thanks, hung up, and immediately started thinking of cheaper ways to go...

 

[bukowski]

That's why nitrogen is recommended. Far cheaper. There is a global shortage of helium. Hence why tanks for balloons are diluted with oxygen. Not to prevent suicide. It's purely cost.

 

[Ritter]

When I called about it, 2 full sized tanks of 100% helium at my local welding supply store was around $725. That included the flow regulator rental. I already had 2 but I didn't want to seem suspicious, since I said the helium was for a huge family function. 1 would've been plenty but the other was for my partner who wants to ctb too.

I told the guy thanks, hung up, and immediately started thinking of cheaper ways to go...

Nitrogen, a 22cuft tank (623 cubic liters) filled was $180, rental for same thing only $60 (though they're gonna charge whatever you used when you don't return it so...why not buy it?).

Nitrogen and argon are just as effective.

As far as the technical aspects, yes it is a bit more involved than other methods but the megathread here has a few diagrams and so does the pphb. It's not impossible, just takes a bit more time and deliberate actions than say swallowing some SN.

I definitely understand ease is a factor which is ok.

As far as SI instinct, you have less time to back out than with SN or N. If done right you're passed out in about 30 seconds. For SN and N you have 15-30 minutes before losing consciousness which is plenty of time to call 911 or vomit.

Compared to what? Nembutal? Sure.

Because otherwise, tanks of gas, even nitrogen, are pricey and the pre-fab regulator is very expensive; the do-it-yourself regulators are not for the inexperienced despite well-meaning people who claim anyone can put it together.

There's literally how-to videos to attach regulators that show you step-by-step that take only 3-5 minutes.
You can buy adequate regulators for $30-$40 and you literally just thread it on. It's not rocket science.

sanctioned suicide shows you how to assemble and put on the bag...

The reason why people complain it's so difficult is the same reason why they complain SN regimen is difficult, because it takes slightly more than 2 seconds of thought, they'll actually have to (god forbid) read one of the megathreads (or the PPHB, or sactionedsuicide, or the final exit...) that describes what to do (which I know...impossible right?). Minus using a firearm or jumping of a bridge suicide going to take some effort and some planning but it's not nearly as difficult as people make it out to be.

 

[Final Escape]

I tried it and had the entire set up but I did run into one problem the actual suffocating is not as easy as u would think. I got lightheaded and dizzy quick but I still ran into problems. You will need anxiety meds prior or some type of way to lower anxiety, the panic response was too much. I couldn't be sure that I wouldn't rip the bag off so a mask might be better. I struggled with the hose staying put which if u had a place to directly connect the hose into the mask might be more effective.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

There's literally how-to videos to attach regulators that show you step-by-step that take only 3-5 minutes.
You can buy adequate regulators for $30-$40 and you literally just thread it on. It's not rocket science.

Yeah, I deleted my comment. I'm not getting into this argument again.

 

[Ritter]

Minus the technical aspect of the method...the exit bag is painless and effective. A lot of people are also turned off by the idea of being found with a bag over their head, but every method has their draw backs. If you choose this as your method, be patient, be methodical, do your homework and you'll likely be successful.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

Agreed that it is straightforward enough. It was a lot easier when you could buy a few tanks of helium and your mega mart and be good to go. If you can handle the SI, I imagine it's a pleasant way to pass, but for the effort, it didn't stay on my list for long. Though I've since learned that partial isn't the slam dunk I thought it was. But that's why we have SN, right?

 

[AnnaJaspers]

It's my plan B, but I understand why so many people find it repugnant--you are, afterall, putting a fucking plastic bag over your head with gas which doesn't, to most, equate with peaceful or dignified although I'm pretty confident it's the best way to exit if you can't get N.

The Final Exit Network in the US recommends it, doctors have used it, etc. Definitely superior to hanging, gunshot, jumping, etc for minimizing gore factor, and lethality.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

It's my plan B, but I understand why so many people find it repugnant--you are, afterall, putting a fucking plastic bag over your head with gas which doesn't, to most, equate with peaceful or dignified although I'm pretty confident it's the best way to exit if you can't get N.

The Final Exit Network in the US recommends it, doctors have used it, etc. Definitely superior to hanging, gunshot, jumping, etc for minimizing gore factor, and lethality.

You know what, you make a great point that I had completely forgotten about. A big draw about the method had been the hope that my appearance post mortem would not be too traumatic for whoever discovered me.

 

[AnnaJaspers]

You know what, you make a great point that I had completely forgotten about. A big draw about the method had been the hope that my appearance post mortem would not be too traumatic for whoever discovered me.

It's definitely creepy looking but it does beat brains and blood scattered all over the place. Also, it has a kind of advantage that anyone who enters the room and sees you (if you let that happen) will probably back out and call 911 vs with an overdose they would obviously approach you to look for vitals.

Anyway, compared to other methods except for N and possibly SN--I think it has more advantages than disadvantages.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

It's definitely creepy looking but it does beat brains and blood scattered all over the place. Also, it has a kind of advantage that anyone who enters the room and sees you (if you let that happen) will probably back out and call 911 vs with an overdose they would obviously approach you to look for vitals.

Anyway, compared to other methods except for N and possibly SN--I think it has more advantages than disadvantages.

I agree that it's pretty great. And reasonably reliable. If I fail with SN, I'll probably try exit bag with noble gas.

 

[Passersby]

This method sounds pretty good to me. Every method has its drawbacks. It does require some thought and technical work but if you can get it done then I think that this is one of the best methods outside of n. Right now I am debating between this and sn. I made the exit bag a few days ago with the turkey bag elastic cord and toggle. I messed up the first one but then looks like I got the second one made. It appears to be right. I just need the tank now and regulator. I haven't been physically able to go get it yet this week but am hoping I can do it tomorrow. People have used this method through the years. We just don't always hear about it. There was a guy from Ohio I think named John something who used this method. He was a musician. He made a Howe to video about it. His setup was a little different in the fact that he used a respirator I think. Anyway he said the hardest thing you will ever do in your whole life is turn on the gas.
Also a Olympic cyclist named Kelley Caitlin used this method like a year ago or so. There are news articles that talk about her suicide and method. She rented helium tank and made exit bag and did i it on her bed. Also are woman named mary max used this method as well. I am just scared that something will go wrong and I will wake up brain dead and in hospital. Then they would force me to stay alive and suffer. I think I will tape a piece of paper to my chest that says. DNR. The si is really hard to overcome. I really want to die and think that I will get it done but man is it so hard!

 

[LivingToLong]

It's my preferred/chosen method (though CO and BBQ briquettes are a strong contender too) I'm OK with the technicality but have yet to source the gas (helium is probably out due to purity)

For me, I think assembling it all and fitting the hood etc will bring a sense of calm to me. I also have (mild) tranquillisers to ease any nerves. I'm not too keen on being found with a bag over my head, and the fact that, due to the equipment, it has to be done at home so my wife will probably find/see my dead body, that also is a down side but every method has its downsides.

I don't like the uncertainty of getting SN or N, and I've been unable to find the exact spot (carotids) to feel assured that partial will work successfully. I couldn't do the gore of guns or jumping - so the exit bag is, for me, still the best option.

 

[Pikashuu83]

Lot more complicated to assemble and execute, higher risk of brain damage, among others are few reasons

Like I am not being able to get a H tank here, as I got interrogated by police .

 

[morningdew]

nitrogen, exit bag, regulator. All very simple to accomplish. SN seems a good method as well but actually more complicated.
SN gets more post so people jump on the bandwagon

 

[Time]

I was looking into finding all the materials for that method but then I came here & found SN. For me SN is cheaper, easier to get, & seems to be a relatively painless method.

 

[Heart of Ice]

I have nowhere to keep the canisters. The whole thing is also a bit technical, as others have said.

EDIT: I don''t want to make a thread about this as this is kind of stupid, also sorry if I hijack the thread: Wouldn't it be technically possible to tape a tent airtight and open a helium/nitrogen canister in it? Wouldn't that work? Or would the helium just rise to the ceiling of the tent?

 

[AnnaJaspers]

I have nowhere to keep the canisters. The whole thing is also a bit technical, as others have said.

EDIT: I don''t want to make a thread about this as this is kind of stupid, also sorry if I hijack the thread: Wouldn't it be technically possible to tape a tent airtight and open a helium/nitrogen canister in it? Wouldn't that work? Or would the helium just rise to the ceiling of the tent?

Tent is possible, yes, but requires quite a bit more gas and there is much more room for failure.

 

[Sirius]

What I have heard from "patients" is they are intimidated by pulling the hood over their own head..Something we have all benn taught NOT to do since childhood

 

[Ritter]

Tent is possible, yes, but requires quite a bit more gas and there is much more room for failure.

A tent would take more work, you'd have to invest in a good tent to help guarantee it's airtight and will likely have to do some extra work as well to seal up seams, zippers etc.

And as the above said it would take considerably more gas.