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DesperateOne

DesperateOne

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May 25, 2023
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From what I've read it takes 10-20 min to knock you unconscious which is terrifying to me since that is enough time for reality to set in and abort. This is also from what I've personally read, but it seems like it has a small chance of knocking you out and not working which could result in you coming back with brain damage, no? Then there's the part where you can't numb the anxiety with alcohol or lots of pills since you have to strictly follow the protocol. Why is this method so favored and preferred over others? Am I missing something?
 
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dinosavr

dinosavr

and if i’m turning blue please don’t save me 🌛
Dec 14, 2023
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Unfortunately a perfect method doesn't exist. The risk is much higher with other methods. Plus 15 minutes doesn't seem like that much and I know it might feel like ages but I think I'm really ready for discomfort and potential pain.
 
DesperateOne

DesperateOne

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May 25, 2023
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Unfortunately a perfect method doesn't exist. The risk is much higher with other methods. Plus 15 minutes doesn't seem like that much and I know it might feel like ages but I think I'm really ready for discomfort and potential pain.
I wish I had your strength. I personally don't mind the physical pain, I more so fear the mental panic that will 100% come when I realize what is about to happen. Deep in my core I know that I do not want to die, but at the same time I know it is the only path out of my situation which is why it needs to be very swift.
 
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landslide2

landslide2

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May 6, 2024
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I am more in tune with how you are describing it. I don't think I would be able to handle the time well, waiting to go unconscious. Some people approach SN because it's (mostly) painless and they have really thought it out and prepared. I would rather od on opiods if given the choice and had access. Not everyone has access to a firearm and even if they did, it's pretty violent and you do need to be able to handle one properly i would think. that could also horribly injure you if it goes wrong.
 
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divinemistress36

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Cause I dont know how to use a gun and afraid id blow my face off and live. Hanging seems to confusing to figure out and to dumb to understand co method
 
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DesperateOne

DesperateOne

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May 25, 2023
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I am more in tune with how you are describing it. I don't think I would be able to handle the time well, waiting to go unconscious. Some people approach SN because it's (mostly) painless and they have really thought it out and prepared. I would rather od on opiods if given the choice and had access. Not everyone has access to a firearm and even if they did, it's pretty violent and you do need to be able to handle one properly i would think. that could also horribly injure you if it goes wrong.
Yup, those options are much more appealing to me, however I don't have the world and social experiences to get myself strong opioids. I frankly don't even know where to look, what to ask for and how to verify if I was given something fucked. I would 100% go for a gun, but getting one is practically impossible in my country. That leaves me with my current method which is full hanging and hoping that the carotid arteries get squeezed properly.
 
enduringwinter

enduringwinter

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Jun 20, 2024
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Effectiveness (lethality) is high, in the rare case of survival it would only be due to intervention rather than pure bad luck and it would not leave you with nearly as much damage as other methods.

That said my first preferred method was CO but after researching I've found out it's impossible to set up in my situation/location.
 
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doctordetritus

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Jan 5, 2024
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my si is pretty strong. and i feel like the ancient part of my brain immediately recognizes things like heights or big fast thing coming at you (train) or drowning as deeply frightful, because when i start to envision those methods, i panic. hard. but i dont think my brain has made the connection that this tumbler of innocent liquid could kill me because when i envision that, i dont get as panicky. i mean still panicky, but not as panicky.
 
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landslide2

landslide2

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May 6, 2024
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I'm not in
Yup, those options are much more appealing to me, however I don't have the world and social experiences to get myself strong opioids. I frankly don't even know where to look, what to ask for and how to verify if I was given something fucked. I would 100% go for a gun, but getting one is practically impossible in my country. That leaves me with my current method which is full hanging and hoping that the carotid arteries get squeezed properly.
I wish I knew how to get my hands on strong opioids too. there are informative threads on hanging. I think regardless of the method, it's something you want to be sure about and make appropriate preparations so you don't end up injuring yourself with any method. hanging is something on my list.
Personally, I just like poisons. That said my first preferred method was CO but after researching I've found out it's impossible to set up in my situation/location. So, SN
CO is also on my list but that too may not work as i wonder about waiting for the co to buildup to knock me out. Third is possibly exit-bag using nitrogen or helium which may be pretty quick and painless.
 
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Forever Sleep

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It just seems like the lesser of the evils. The process I'm hoping will kick up less SI than say hanging, jumping, train. It also depends if you're concerned about breaking the law. I don't fancy a criminal record trying to obtain Class A drugs. It can be done at home, in private. With any luck, it will involve discomfort rather than excruciating pain and fear.

Really though- all homegrown methods can fail. They all have their problems. I agree that SN likely isn't the magic powder it sometimes seems to be worshipped as. What method is though? My friend said she watched a video of an assisted suicide once which didn't even look entirely peaceful! The man struggled to drink the solution (Nembutal pressumably) and said it tasted foul and burned his throat.

Even executions have gone wrong and they're supposed to be professionals. The depressing thing (for suicidal people anyway) is that I don't think the human body is always that easy to kill. Some of it seems to be down to luck.

I do understand why people question just why SN seems to be so favoured but I'm always curious to know- what do you think sounds better? What method do you know that never fails and never has complications if it does fail? Ultimately, we're trying to shut down our bodies bit by bit. I imagine, any process that fails in doing that or, is interupted will leave us maimed rather than dead. For me, SN is simply the best out of a bad bunch.
 
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justwannadip

justwannadip

it's still raining
May 27, 2024
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Was the easiest and cheapest thing to get. Its definitely not ideal, I struggle with the exact same issue and fear as you; I'm terrified my SI and anxiety will make me abort and call for help. That would be awful and a worst case scenario. I get hyperaware and anxious (OCD) about a lot of things so I can imagine me panicking after taking it and freaking out when the symptoms start to show. I'm trying to imagine the process in my head and practice being numb to it but ik nothing is like when you've actually taken it and you know its only a matter of time before it kills you. I also have an aversion to the process of thing dying or being abandoned (even with throwing things out), and I get this weird sentimental urge to preserve and not 'throw out' or kill something. As a kid I couldn't kill any bugs even if they were spiders (i was terrified). So killing myself wont be easy. I'm afraid I'm gonna end up doing that with myself, even tho my brain fucking hates me and its whole purpose has been to destroy me, in this way it somehow keeps me alive.

Ideal would be N, and then inert gas if I trusted myself enough to set it up properly. Fent would also be a possibility but I don't have the funds or the know how to get it. SN is already on the way for me, so I'll likely have to settle with it.
 
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dinosavr

dinosavr

and if i’m turning blue please don’t save me 🌛
Dec 14, 2023
605
I wish I had your strength. I personally don't mind the physical pain, I more so fear the mental panic that will 100% come when I realize what is about to happen. Deep in my core I know that I do not want to die, but at the same time I know it is the only path out of my situation which is why it needs to be very swift.
Well, there's a good chance that eventually my panic would kick in too and I won't be prepared so I guess you never know for sure what's going to happen. Nobody can really practice death. So one day I'll have to say okay screw it and just go with whatever I'll have. It's really upsetting but that's just how it is.
I'm still manifesting a lethal physical disease so there's only physical pain I'd have to face. We'll see :')
 
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rozeske

Maybe I am the problem
Dec 2, 2023
3,215
My initial plan was hanging as that was the only avaliable to me and i felt a bit tight on time but it was kindly pointed out to me to slow down and look into SN and I'm glad I did. Just better of two evils but a lot better for me.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
20,139
Because it was the easiest one I could access at the time. I still have my SN completely unopened and stored safely. Just having it as an option was comforting for me.
 
Saddragon

Saddragon

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Jun 6, 2024
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my si is pretty strong. and i feel like the ancient part of my brain immediately recognizes things like heights or big fast thing coming at you (train) or drowning as deeply frightful, because when i start to envision those methods, i panic. hard. but i dont think my brain has made the connection that this tumbler of innocent liquid could kill me because when i envision that, i dont get as panicky. i mean still panicky, but not as panicky.
I understand that part of the regimen for NS is to drink something like Xanax, so the panicky feeling probably kicks in just before you prepare everything. I plan to use this method but I hope I don't get cold feet at the last instant cause then I have to try again or commit to something else.
 
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