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Why is suicide so taboo and stigmatized? I guess it has to do with how it's seen as "sin" in Christianity, but why is it seen this way? Why is it a "sin" for taking your own life or wanting to die?
 
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Because those who have had a good and full life believe that everyone can accomplish the same thing, despite trying with no avail for many years. They believe those who want to ctb are cowardly and have unlimited potential to recover when in reality their suffering is treatment resistant and keeping them alive would just condemn them to even more unnecessary suffering. False hope.
 
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Because those who have had a good and full life believe that everyone can accomplish the same thing, despite trying with no avail for many years. They believe those who want to ctb are cowardly and have unlimited potential to recover when in reality their suffering is treatment resistant and keeping them alive would just condemn them to even more unnecessary suffering. False hope.
Exactly this. I spent 5 hard years trying to fix myself and none of it was worth it in the end. Some of our problems can't just be fixed but the lucky ones are too blind to see it.
 
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Because those who have had a good and full life believe that everyone can accomplish the same thing, despite trying with no avail for many years. They believe those who want to ctb are cowardly and have unlimited potential to recover when in reality their suffering is treatment resistant and keeping them alive would just condemn them to even more unnecessary suffering. False hope.
I would say that it takes more courage to die. I'm too much of a coward to ctb bc of the risk of failure. Instead, I'm stuck living this miserable existence, with no way out. I really admire those who reached their goal, I wish I could be as brave as them
 
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I would say that it takes more courage to die. I'm too much of a coward to try ctb bc of the risk of failure. I really admire those who reached their goal
Yeah, and those who force us to stay alive believe there is nothing courageous with ctb because we're "too weak to handle our problems"
I admire those who managed to ctb as well, even if it was through agony because even now at this point I'd accept such a method.
 
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People don't want to think about the possibility that life can be so bad that someone would want to die. It's uncomfortable for them to question life. They rulers want to keep people alive to work for them.
 
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Exactly this. I spent 5 hard years trying to fix myself and none of it was worth it in the end. Some of our problems can't just be fixed but the lucky ones are too blind to see it.
Literally! For me, having to live is the problem. I have ASD and ADHD, and they're chronic lifelong conditions, they're not going to go away. They make living and even being a human being difficult. I'll always have these difficulties in my life, they'll always make my life hard on so many levels. These problems can never be solved
 
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Because most people arent comfortable with death. Even thinking about it. Much less about making a decision to take matters into their own hands. Top it off with the popular but false notion that the average person believes "all life is sacred." Even nonreligious folk. With no real reasoning behind it
 
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.People don't want to think about the possibility that life can be so bad that someone would want to die. It's uncomfortable for them to question life. They rulers want to keep people alive to work for them.
It's the platitudinal thinking of the cult of happiness.
Literally! For me, having to live is the problem. I have ASD and ADHD, and they're chronic lifelong conditions, they're not going to go away. They make living and even being a human being difficult. I'll always have these difficulties in my life, they'll always make my life hard on so many levels. These problems can never be solved
Same friend. My body is very messed up due to being unlucky in the genetics department. It's not going to go away and it's the biggest debilitating factor in my life, I only ever wanted to be normal as a kid but I'm never going to have that.
 
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Because of humans selfishness and delusions, also the society needs slaves which is why people are brainwashed into believing that suicide is "irrational". It's really so tragic how suicide is so stigmatised, the delusions that anti-suicide people hold just cause harm.

Humans truly are the worst species, if all humans were capable of holding rational beliefs this species would be long extinct by now but sadly they worship the disgusting and futile mistake that is existence instead, causing unnecessary torment and suffering as a result.
 
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Aug 11, 2023
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Why is suicide so taboo and stigmatized? I guess it has to do with how it's seen as "sin" in Christianity, but why is it seen this way? Why is it a "sin" for taking your own life or wanting to die?
1. It hurts to lose someone you know
2. If left everyone else feeling guilty, and suicide usually leave a long term effect to people who are close
3. It leaves some people (especially close friends and family) open to being criticized by other people for 'causing' the suicide
 
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In terms of religion, I'm not really an expert. Still- I imagine it's because religious folk maybe think we are here for a reason. They seem to have some masochistic idea that all this suffering is for something. After all- it must be God's intention. So- maybe they think we are just supposed to put up with it in order to learn some great lesson. A lot of religion and especially Christianity seems to be about obedience.

As to whether it's just as bad to think about it as to do it- I imagine the latter is worse. Feeling aroused by another person's spouse is different to having an affair with them. If we compare it to other so called sins- I think the idea is we may want desperately to do something 'bad' but we resist. We call on God or whatever to give us strength to do the 'right' thing.

It's kind of perverse when you think about it. We have been designed as lustful, gluttonous creatures but we are taught that both are wrong. A lot of religion seems to be about tempering our animalistic natures to enable a more 'civilised' society. Just like law really. Religion mirrors law in a lot of ways.

The cynical part of me has to wonder whether it is all just made up to control us... In which case- the REAL reason is probably money at the end of the day. I imagine it's more likely that the relatively poorer people of the world kill themselves the most. The super rich people in charge need those people alive in order to be able to exploit them!

If there is a God, are they REALLY that masochistic that they want us to prove our 'love' by doing or not doing the most horrendous things imaginable? Like asking Abraham to sacrifice his own son? Even as a prank or test of loyalty- that's pretty sick!

I think it would be fascinating to find out just how Christianity sees suicide from source material- not people's interpretations. But then- I suppose all of Christianity is an interpretation. Jesus didn't write the bible. I'm not so sure it is even categorically portrayed as a sin in the bible. I wish I could find it again but I can't... I once watched a YouTube video that claimed that the idea of suicide as a sin- punishable in hell came about at a specific point and for a specific reason. Back in the day, peasants breaking their backs on hard labour in the fields were told their reward would come in heaven. Supposedly- more and more decided to jump the queue and suicide. So- in response, this idea came about to put them off. Like I say though- I can't find the video now. I've never been able to find anything else to back it up either. I wonder if anyone else has heard this theory?
 
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