Why is suicide so high in the late 20s/early 30s age group?

[Weebster]

Is it because they've mcfucking had it?

 

[pudds]

I guess yeah

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I think that's around the age that some people begin to feel like they're failing at being an adult. Marriage, house, kids, career, and all that jazz.

 

[Al Cappella]

That's not when the numbers are at their highest, at least not where I am. The highest number CTB between 40-55.

 

[Chiisai]

Existential crisis.

 

[Lintaga]

my psychologist said 27 is the most dangerous age.. i think its just because its the zone between being a young adult to an aged adult. i think it leaves lots of room for crisis.

 

[I want to end it]

That's not when the numbers are at their highest, at least not where I am. The highest number CTB between 40-55.

Yes I thought the highest age was 45-55.

 

[knockedlooseagain]

I think because everything that used to be obtainable is no longer feasible for us

 

[Weebster]

Yes I thought the highest age was 45-55.

Those people aren't in news articles that I've come across.

 

[Maaizr]

my psychologist said 27 is the most dangerous age.. i think its just because its the zone between being a young adult to an aged adult. i think it leaves lots of room for crisis.

oh fuck im 27, most recent attempt was like last yr tho

 

[romanholidaydionysu]

According to the SPRC (lol), there has been an uptick in suicides in the 25-34 yo age group (in the US). Though, between suicide and the health problems of dealing with long term depression, there may not be many depressives left by the age of 60

 

[Insomniac]

Existential crisis.

Nah. Existential crisis is for teens.

people in their late 20s have very real/tangible problems and for them, it's too late to try to fix them.

 

[markimobzzdeasui]

Maybe because we now realise that repressing, gaslighting and having delusions have a limit.

 

[Chiisai]

Nah. Existential crisis is for teens.

people in their late 20s have very real/tangible problems and for them, it's too late to try to fix them.

So you mean to say you know me better than my own? Carry on then.

 

[LostAllHope88]

As a 33 year old, I guess for me it's because I've passed all the major milestones. When I was growing up there was always some age milestone I was holding out for. I'd be an official teenager at 13, be able to drive at 16, graduate high school at 17, legally be able to do a lot more things at 18, drink at 21 (in the US), graduate university eventually, etc.

If marriage and kids were on the table for me, maybe I'd have held out for those things. But instead life became all about working, and feeling stressed and miserable and sleepless. No more big milestones to look forward to, just thankless labor without an end in sight. At least not if you're poor and you live in the US.

The cost of living keeps getting higher, and wages are not enough to survive. When you get older, your parents are less likely to still be taking care of you financially (if they're even alive still). Then throw in chance medical issues, and hospital bills that are out of this world expensive. Universal healthcare doesn't exist here so on top of any student loan debt you may have you're responsible for those. Even if you do get a higher-paying job, will you ever truly be free of debt? Will social security even exist when I get older? Do I have anything to look forward to but slaving away for billionaires for the rest of my life?

Prior to late 20's/early 30's I guess I never really thought about all that and life still seemed hopeful.

 

[FuneralCry]

I do not know the answer to the question, but we do live in a world with unlimited potential for suffering. To me it is understandable as to why so many people want to leave it. Maybe many people have came to the conclusion that their life is not worth living. I think that maybe people want to escape this world before they reach an older age, as to me there is nothing good about getting older. The thought of suffering until a very old age is horrifying to think about. I see life itself as being very depressing.

 

[ornitier199]

Cause we've experienced and sick of the shit.
"I'm sick of this, I'm sick of all of this!"
-Tifa

(Also, money is used as way of living and doing anything into the world, for that it has been largely connected with general happiness/stability. I won't deny its affects on me, now more than ever).

 

[mboo]

It's a big life stage change and it's difficult to manage. You make choices that you live with for 10 years or more. Also breaking into the workplace is tough and you are building new relationships everywhere. It does improve.

I think that's around the age that some people begin to feel like they're failing at being an adult. Marriage, house, kids, career, and all that jazz.

Yes. It's very tough transition. And there are other tough transitions. But that one you do alone, probably without your life partner at that stage.

 

[mboo]

20s30s are hard. Work is relentless even if it's satisfying.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Is it because they've mcfucking had it?

Because we have seen the future and it's a hellish landscape of never ending misery.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

 

[Shu]

Well.. in astrology around the age of 28-30 you have what is called a "Saturn Return" you can look up what a Saturn Return means if you want to learn about it.
I'm not saying astrology is real. Just interesting to me.

 

[Red Scare]

• Young people earn 20% less than previous precious generations did—despite being better educated (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/mil...han-boomersdespite-being-better-educated.html )

• Cost of college has gone up at 8 times the rate of wages (https://www.forbes.com/sites/camilo...lmost-8-times-faster-than-wages/#6ba328a466c1 )

• There is not one single state in the United States where a full-time, just-above-minimum-wage job can support a 1 bedroom apartment.

• Student loans now make up the largest chunk of non-housing debt in America, and many "entry level" jobs now require a degree. (https://www.finder.com/student-loans-account-for-36-35-of-non-housing-debt )

• Cost of living is up 300% or more since the 1970s but wages are only up 50-70%.

• The Census reports that the average price of a new home in June 1998 was $175,900. According to inflation, that price today for a new home should be $271,931. The same report places the average sale price for June 2018 at $368,500, however, more than 35% higher than the price when accounting for inflation alone.

• A gallon of gas in 1994 cost $1.06, making it $1.64 in June 2014, when adjusted for inflation. The actual national average price, as of July 2018, is $2.88 – 75% higher than what it would be if inflation were the only cause for the increase.

• The median household income in 1998 was $38,885. The most recent year with full data available is 2017, so adjusting for inflation as of that year gives a median income of $58,487. The Bureau of Census reports that the actual median 2017 income was $59,000 – higher than the adjusted figure, but not by very much, and certainly nowhere near the percentage that prices have outpaced inflation.

• If the minimum wage had increased with CEO pay since the 1970's, it would now be at 33$ an hour.

According to the Social Security Administration (SSA)(https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2018) which tracks net income numbers after taxes through the Average Wage Index (AWI):

-33 percent of all American workers make less than $20,000 a year.

-46 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

-58 percent of all American workers make less than $40,000 a year.

-67 percent of all American workers make less than $50,000 a year.

Approximately two-thirds of all American workers are making $4,000 or less a month.

According to Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfr...to-paycheck-government-shutdown/#1adadff14f10) 78% of workers live paycheck to paycheck and more than 1 in 4 workers do not set aside any savings each month.

CNBC reports (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/a-t...adults-cant-cover-a-400-dollar-emergency.html) One-third of middle-income adults don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $400 expense without selling something or borrowing money.

So if I wager a guess I'd have to say crippling student debt, stagnant wages, and rising costs of living. That's not even discussing social media contributing to widespread alienation, or the pandemic wreaking havoc on people's social lives and well being.

...or maybe @ctb is right and it's all just astrology... definitely astrology...

 

[Weebster]

Because we have seen the future and it's a hellish landscape of never ending misery.

Is that really why?

 

[Red Scare]

Is that really why?

See previous post.

 

[Weebster]

• Young people earn 20% less than previous precious generations did—despite being better educated (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/mil...han-boomersdespite-being-better-educated.html )

• Cost of college has gone up at 8 times the rate of wages (https://www.forbes.com/sites/camilo...lmost-8-times-faster-than-wages/#6ba328a466c1 )

• There is not one single state in the United States where a full-time, just-above-minimum-wage job can support a 1 bedroom apartment.

• Student loans now make up the largest chunk of non-housing debt in America, and many "entry level" jobs now require a degree. (https://www.finder.com/student-loans-account-for-36-35-of-non-housing-debt )

• Cost of living is up 300% or more since the 1970s but wages are only up 50-70%.

• The Census reports that the average price of a new home in June 1998 was $175,900. According to inflation, that price today for a new home should be $271,931. The same report places the average sale price for June 2018 at $368,500, however, more than 35% higher than the price when accounting for inflation alone.

• A gallon of gas in 1994 cost $1.06, making it $1.64 in June 2014, when adjusted for inflation. The actual national average price, as of July 2018, is $2.88 – 75% higher than what it would be if inflation were the only cause for the increase.

• The median household income in 1998 was $38,885. The most recent year with full data available is 2017, so adjusting for inflation as of that year gives a median income of $58,487. The Bureau of Census reports that the actual median 2017 income was $59,000 – higher than the adjusted figure, but not by very much, and certainly nowhere near the percentage that prices have outpaced inflation.

• If the minimum wage had increased with CEO pay since the 1970's, it would now be at 33$ an hour.

According to the Social Security Administration (SSA)(https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2018) which tracks net income numbers after taxes through the Average Wage Index (AWI):

-33 percent of all American workers make less than $20,000 a year.

-46 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

-58 percent of all American workers make less than $40,000 a year.

-67 percent of all American workers make less than $50,000 a year.

Approximately two-thirds of all American workers are making $4,000 or less a month.

According to Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfr...to-paycheck-government-shutdown/#1adadff14f10) 78% of workers live paycheck to paycheck and more than 1 in 4 workers do not set aside any savings each month.

CNBC reports (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/a-t...adults-cant-cover-a-400-dollar-emergency.html) One-third of middle-income adults don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $400 expense without selling something or borrowing money.

So if I wager a guess I'd have to say crippling student debt, stagnant wages, and rising costs of living.

...or maybe @ctb is right and it's all just astrology... definitely astrology...

A great case for suicide lol. It's more hopeless than I thought. Why do people then act surprised when young people ctb?

 

[Red Scare]

A great case for suicide lol. It's more hopeless than I thought. Why do people then act surprised when young people ctb?

You just have to pull yourself up by the boot straps, give it the ol' college try, be an achiever, make your own way in life, no ones going to give you a free ride or any hand outs, you know, like having rich parents and connections. And those people earned it, don'cha'know? Go out and be like them, buy, beg, borrow, and steal your way to the top.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Is that really why?

For me it is. I think many on here feel the same. If I'm wrong feel free to let me know. Why would anyone want to go through the same horror every day for decades?

 

[Weebster]

For me it is. I think many on here feel the same. If I'm wrong feel free to let me know. Why would anyone want to go through the same horror every day for decades?

Is this primarily a new thing or was this happening a century ago?

 

[Red Scare]

Why would anyone want to go through the same horror every day for decades?

Well for one thing, they are in love. I hate the daily grind as much as any, but I can say when I was in love and married that it gave meaning to my existence, I actually wanted to go to work and earn money to secure a nice life for the two of us.

I would have ctb a long time ago if I hadn't gotten into a long term relationship and now that I am no longer in one I feel no need to continue living a life I am miserable living. Working sucks, capitalism sucks, no one in this country will ever lift a finger to make it any better. The love of my life is dead. So fuck this.