• Hey Guest,

    As you know, censorship around the world has been ramping up at an alarming pace. The UK and OFCOM has singled out this community and have been focusing its censorship efforts here. It takes a good amount of resources to maintain the infrastructure for our community and to resist this censorship. We would appreciate any and all donations.

    Bitcoin Address (BTC): 39deg9i6Zp1GdrwyKkqZU6rAbsEspvLBJt

    Ethereum (ETH): 0xd799aF8E2e5cEd14cdb344e6D6A9f18011B79BE9

    Monero (XMR): 49tuJbzxwVPUhhDjzz6H222Kh8baKe6rDEsXgE617DVSDD8UKNaXvKNU8dEVRTAFH9Av8gKkn4jDzVGF25snJgNfUfKKNC8

  • Security update: At around 2:28AM EST, the site was labeled as malicious by Google erroneously, causing users to get a "Dangerous site" warning in most browsers. It appears that this was done by mistake and has been reversed by Google. It may take a few hours for you to stop seeing those warnings.

    If you're still getting these warnings, please let a member of staff know.
EternalShore

EternalShore

Hardworking Lass who Dreams of Love~ 💕✨
Jun 9, 2023
1,150
I personally was aware of this site from a video "exposing" it, and after joining it I just think it's exaggerating. The fact is that there ISN'T a place for us. We get told over and over "don't do it" but when we are struggling and want help..... there isn't any. They only care when we are going to CTB. Never when we are suffering and by then, when we chose to go through with it, we already made our mind. It's so gross.
They just want us to live, so they can have their clear consciences about killing anyone with their own disrespect towards the unfortunate~ They call people loser and cut off others yet they don't want to see what the pain they cause actually results in~ In effect, we are mistreated by others but never permitted to stop it by choosing to leave~ :(
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: RiverOfLife, Melly, not-2-b-the-answer and 9 others
drinkingintohell

drinkingintohell

There is hope as long as death exists
Dec 26, 2024
15
YES, glad (?) to know someone else has seen it too and I didn't imagine it. Someone could be on this site long term or have tons of posts, and it doesn't automatically equate to "they clearly have bad intentions". Which is a conclusion I've seen not only that creator make, but a couple site members. It'd be one thing if they were actively encouraging suicides or mocking them (IIRC, users have actually been banned for this), but some people talk like being here for over six months or having more than x posts means you're malicious in some way.
Not related to your post but sick pfp and banner. Undertale is amazing
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer, Namelesa, ijustwishtodie and 1 other person
needthebus

needthebus

Victim of Sexual Violence, Invisible and Abandoned
Apr 29, 2024
500
Mhmmm.

Am I a "red flag" bc I have a "ton of posts" here?

I just spend a lot of time here and it rescued me for now.

I hope nobody sees me a "red flag".
i like you and think you are nice.

These people know that it's socially acceptable to say suicide is always bad, and it's socially acceptable to say this site is bad, so they want to make a video to get views to get paid and so they are saying various socially acceptable things about reasons why this site could be bad.

They can't monitize it if they say "some of these people have good reasons to die, hooray for suicide, violence and death are great" because they will get banned by YouTube who has terms never allowing pro-suicide content because only the government and corporations are allowed to say when the powerless worker slaves have permission to die.

That's all it is.

I also think this is a form of bullying, because they said those things knowing some users with high post counts will read them, and be even sadder, and don't care... because it gives them clicks. If a user has a high post count, it means they have managed to somehow stay alive. Isn't that what they supposedly want? Or is that just subterfuge for the YouTubers to hide the nasty schadenfreude they get by critiquing this site, under the guise of being pro-life and conveniently, simultaneously, conforming to the will of cruel corporations, governments, and oligopolists who demand that no one opt out of their systems.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Love
  • Hugs
Reactions: Melly, not-2-b-the-answer, ScarletTanager and 3 others
D

DOHARDTHINGS24

Mage
Apr 30, 2024
535
I don't judge other people on SaSu about how long they've been here, but I really, really do for myself. I find it shameful that I'm still here, almost to the point of giving up SaSu. My inner critic is a loud bitch, screaming "why are you still here? Just fucking do it already!!!"
And my anxiety tells me that's what other people think when they see me post - "this bitch! Still??!"
But I would never, ever actually think that of someone else.
It's not a one size, fits all, universal, rigid bus schedule we're on, it's customised to the individual, their capacity, their life circumstances.
That's what I have to tell myself to pull myself out of the shame...
Give yourself grace, people keep telling me. Which is sweet & I try (& fail) but I find it so much easier to give that to others. I think I've gone right off track again, another one of my calling cards, I'm so sorry...
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: Melly, avoid_slow_death, not-2-b-the-answer and 5 others
itriedinthislife2

itriedinthislife2

Member
Jan 3, 2025
88
The simple answer is that they are bias against us, and that this results in cases where any situation that can be twisted to seem bad will be twisted to seem bad. They already have the idea on their heads that this site is a place where people encourage suicide, and that there only exists two types of people on here: those who enjoy encouraging people to kill themselves and those who are vulnerable. This results in the notion that anyone with high post counts are the former, because at their core, those people truly don't understand suicide and how difficult it can be to actually commit. They don't even consider the possibility that high-count posters are just suicidal people who for whatever reason haven't done so, or are jsut seeking refuge in the one place that won't just go "Seek a therapist, youre loved!!," because it doesn't fit their idea of what this forum is
its relatively easy when a gun is in possession u just have to make that decision. i can do it at anytime really. as of now, i wont but i always have that option

suicide is very thought out and the person is at there lowest point, all hope is lost. the former as u described here and most likely lonely people which is fine that have constant SI but still have hope which is great for them. i obviously have hope still as i havent pulled that trigger but my "hope" is on a short string with a magazine filled with bullets and a hate for life

does this answer your question?"
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer
Agon321

Agon321

I use google translate
Aug 21, 2023
1,574
I probably qualify for this category of people and the answer is trivially simple:
I don't have the balls to commit suicide. That's all.

Suicide is hard, so no one should be surprised that someone is still alive, even if they keep talking about CTB.
For example, I said that I would 100% kill myself by the end of 2024... as you can see, my "plans" have changed.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: RiverOfLife, Melly, not-2-b-the-answer and 6 others
D

DOHARDTHINGS24

Mage
Apr 30, 2024
535
I probably qualify for this category of people and the answer is trivially simple:
I don't have the balls to commit suicide. That's all.

Suicide is hard, so no one should be surprised that someone is still alive, even if they keep talking about CTB.
For example, I said that I would 100% kill myself by the end of 2024... as you can see, my "plans" have changed.
I said the same thing. Believed it to be true. Wished it was. My plans changing aren't recovery, just failure to launch. Of all the things I've fucked up in a long & fucked up life, this is my biggest personal failing of all time. I have to have faith I can I still do this one, very hard thing...
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer and Agon321
needthebus

needthebus

Victim of Sexual Violence, Invisible and Abandoned
Apr 29, 2024
500
I probably qualify for this category of people and the answer is trivially simple:
I don't have the balls to commit suicide. That's all.

Suicide is hard, so no one should be surprised that someone is still alive, even if they keep talking about CTB.
For example, I said that I would 100% kill myself by the end of 2024... as you can see, my "plans" have changed.
i also really like being on here because there is absolutely no pressure at all to seem happy. i can be as sad as I want and it won't result in alienation.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: RiverOfLife, Melly, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and 3 others
vitbar

vitbar

Escaped Lunatic
Jun 4, 2023
391
I don't doubt there are bad actors on here. They are where vulnerable people are. Hardly seems likely the member referenced in the video is one. She doesn't even reply to messages.

It seems reasonable to point out that bad actors might end up with a lot of posts because they don't want to off themselves, but it doesn't narrow things down much better than pointing out the crossed out users shouldn't be suspects.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Melly and not-2-b-the-answer
human909

human909

I just want peace
Dec 30, 2024
293
Mhmmm.

Am I a "red flag" bc I have a "ton of posts" here?

I just spend a lot of time here and it rescued me for now.

I hope nobody sees me a "red flag".
i don't think anyone will since we are all trying to ctb or recover so it is a friendly site with people that have the same feelings.
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Praestat_Mori
not-2-b-the-answer

not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,813
As someone who has been here almost since the beginning. (Since we were kicked off Reddit)
The ONLY reason I'm still here is because I haven't been able to go through with it yet. Not because of Post count or trying to get people to CTB. I don't try to talk someone out of it either. Life is horrible. If they can get free from this misery, good for them. I will not lie to someone and tell them "Life Will Get Better".... Sure.... Let me look into my crystal ball and double check. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
 
  • Hugs
  • Aww..
Reactions: Melly, rozeske and Praestat_Mori
itriedinthislife2

itriedinthislife2

Member
Jan 3, 2025
88
I probably qualify for this category of people and the answer is trivially simple:
I don't have the balls to commit suicide. That's all.

Suicide is hard, so no one should be surprised that someone is still alive, even if they keep talking about CTB.
For example, I said that I would 100% kill myself by the end of 2024... as you can see, my "plans" have changed.
u just dont have a gun its really easy when u on a ton of xans and hating life. i promise u. im so close
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: Agon321 and not-2-b-the-answer
DeadManLiving

DeadManLiving

Ticketholder
Sep 9, 2022
299
A recent and rigorously data validated study on a large number of subjects and cohorts focused on completed or fatal suicides, in other words those very few that went through the stages of idealization, denial, acceptance, planning, execution, and attempt that resulted in a fatal outcome.

What sets apart idealization from consequently successful fatal attempt?

Well a few things, but primarily intent, urgency and a highly effective lethal plan. Lower levels of a-HIAA and Oxytocin were found in the CFS of fatal versus non-fatal attemptters.

Thus it's likely possible to override SI with a-HIAA inhibitors and taking intranasal oxytocin and abruptly ceasing to induce withdrawal in combination with GABA agonists both benzodianepines and alcohol.

What was the most interesting between attempters who survived versus the fatal counterparts was the fact that the fatal cohort by majority was not impulsive but a protracted timeline of events spanning 6 and 1/2 years.


It was surprising that almost no fatal attempt was categorically impulsive about to the contrary. In fact the time frame looks like an exponential curve spanning 6.5 years from idealization to a fatal outcome, where the last leading months up to the event look like a hockey stick curve but not to that degree, although an exponential. The final time between ultimate decision and death was only a few minutes, mostly seconds.

So what does this mean? Those who idealized increasingly over a 4 year stretch of time contemplating on the subject eventually become consumed and over time assume a suicidal identity. The ultimatum is reinforced those with actual intent go on to planning and have already decided being in a living grave on the outcome in the sense that there was very little time in between final decision and pulling the trigger. Meaning there was little thought given, either due to disturbance, urgency or intensity of emotional pain but very few to none acted impulsively in the sense of without prior planning or idealization.

The majority of longtime lurkers and posters either idealize and then recover or move on, or become the higher risk category depending on the context and content and ultimately attempt usually after 6.5 years of strong ideation.

But without actual data from this forum it's extremely difficult to extrapolate the results of that study. I'll cite it later.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: RiverOfLife, Melly and needthebus
Pluto

Pluto

Meowing to go out
Dec 27, 2020
4,273
  • Yay!
  • Love
Reactions: rozeske, KuriGohan&Kamehameha, İnilerim and 3 others
avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,341
Was suicidal long, long before this site existed. Hell, was suicidal before a decent number of members here were probably even born. Not that I haven't attempted before, I have on several occasions. But throughout that time, I have met many people, traveled many places and lost so many close to me though one way or another. This site definitely helped me in more ways than one throughout the years. And while I still do plan to self exit when I feel the time is right, I continue to post here and there simply because I can speak freely here about thoughts and feelings I have that I simply cannot express elsewhere. Either because people will not react in an understanding way, or, as is the case with most of the internet and increasingly real life, the hateful edgelords and trolls mocking and oftentimes cruelly encouraging such thoughts. It's a fucked up world out there in so many ways, so it is a comfort to have a safe place to speak freely without judgement, misunderstanding, cruelty or hate being flung about.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: RiverOfLife, EternalLight, Melly and 1 other person
itriedinthislife2

itriedinthislife2

Member
Jan 3, 2025
88
Was suicidal long, long before this site existed. Hell, was suicidal before a decent number of members here were probably even born. Not that I haven't attempted before, I have on several occasions. But throughout that time, I have met many people, traveled many places and lost so many close to me though one way or another. This site definitely helped me in more ways than one throughout the years. And while I still do plan to self exit when I feel the time is right, I continue to post here and there simply because I can speak freely here about thoughts and feelings I have that I simply cannot express elsewhere. Either because people will not react in an understanding way, or, as is the case with most of the internet and increasingly real life, the hateful edgelords and trolls mocking and oftentimes cruelly encouraging such thoughts. It's a fucked up world out there in so many ways, so it is a comfort to have a safe place to speak freely without judgement, misunderstanding, cruelty or hate being flung about.
thankfully u dont have a gun makes it very easy to say the least. these hollow tips will take me away from this shitty world when i cant handle it anymore
 
  • Like
Reactions: avoid_slow_death
needthebus

needthebus

Victim of Sexual Violence, Invisible and Abandoned
Apr 29, 2024
500
A recent and rigorously data validated study on a large number of subjects and cohorts focused on completed or fatal suicides, in other words those very few that went through the stages of idealization, denial, acceptance, planning, execution, and attempt that resulted in a fatal outcome.

What sets apart idealization from consequently successful fatal attempt?

Well a few things, but primarily intent, urgency and a highly effective lethal plan. Lower levels of a-HIAA and Oxytocin were found in the CFS of fatal versus non-fatal attemptters.

Thus it's likely possible to override SI with a-HIAA inhibitors and taking intranasal oxytocin and abruptly ceasing to induce withdrawal in combination with GABA agonists both benzodianepines and alcohol.

What was the most interesting between attempters who survived versus the fatal counterparts was the fact that the fatal cohort by majority was not impulsive but a protracted timeline of events spanning 6 and 1/2 years.


It was surprising that almost no fatal attempt was categorically impulsive about to the contrary. In fact the time frame looks like an exponential curve spanning 6.5 years from idealization to a fatal outcome, where the last leading months up to the event look like a hockey stick curve but not to that degree, although an exponential. The final time between ultimate decision and death was only a few minutes, mostly seconds.

So what does this mean? Those who idealized increasingly over a 4 year stretch of time contemplating on the subject eventually become consumed and over time assume a suicidal identity. The ultimatum is reinforced those with actual intent go on to planning and have already decided being in a living grave on the outcome in the sense that there was very little time in between final decision and pulling the trigger. Meaning there was little thought given, either due to disturbance, urgency or intensity of emotional pain but very few to none acted impulsively in the sense of without prior planning or idealization.

The majority of longtime lurkers and posters either idealize and then recover or move on, or become the higher risk category depending on the context and content and ultimately attempt usually after 6.5 years of strong ideation.

But without actual data from this forum it's extremely difficult to extrapolate the results of that study. I'll cite it later.
do you have the cite or remember anything sbout where or time frame you saw it?

did they rule out that lower seratonin and oxytocin levels were caused by the serious intent to die rather than caused or contributed towards an increased liklihood of death?
 
KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,751
There has been an effective campaign in public health messaging to spread the idea that suicidal ideation is always a temporary problem for the sake of morale, even to the detriment of accurate reporting and statistics- what about those who suffer with feelings suicidal for years, are we simply false anomalies who don't exist? It seems so, if the media has anything to say about it. Journalists and media outlets are held to stringent guidelines on how they portray stories involving suicide, and even television shows have been advised on "the proper way" to talk about this topic in fictional narratives.

By creating the perception that feeling suicidal is guaranteed to be a short term event, rather than a long term one, it gives hope to some individuals. However, in the process, others become invalids if their experience does not fit the mold of what a suicidal person is supposed to look and act like. Suddenly, those who had sympathy shown towards them mere moments ago become enemies, and objects of suspicion, why?

Because many people have a stereotypical, narrow way of thinking about what it entails to want to end one's own life. They think in terms of flickering bursts of emotions, crisis, that can be mitigated by a temporary time out in the psych ward, wherein the person abruptly "comes to their senses" after that and does not think about suicide ever again. There is no such thing as a relapse, apparently. At worst, some people think that continued expression of suicidal feelings after an initial presentation of such pain is attention seeking and fake, even if there is 0 evidence to indicate this.

It is hard to change such backwards and small minded ways of thinking. No one wants to hear the uncomfortable truth that the advancements of modern medicine haven't progressed far enough to accurately identify when someone is suicidal in all cases, or to predict if they will carry out a fatal attempt. Nor do they want to recognize that some people suffer a long time, maybe even their whole life, and are not having a crisis lasting a couple days or weeks.

If you understand the matter through that lens, you realise why these sorts of people raise eyebrows of suspicion at those who hang out here a long time, despite this judgment being completely unfounded in 99% of cases. Because in their eyes, you're either suicidal for a few days and ultimately succeed in a fatal attempt, or you have a "crisis episode" lasting a few days then recover, there is no in-between. Waxing and waning ideation, relapsing after a period of improvement, having day to day fluctuations in one's mood, or being pushed to the breaking point slowly over time are foreign concepts to those who think in black and white and are constantly fed information by influencers, media, and even healthcare workers that suicidal ideation is ALWAYS fleeting, and anything else is a cry for attention or an act of maliciousness/manipulation, whatever.

This ignorant line of thinking is the cause of so much unnecessary suffering for so many of us here, and actively prevents progress from being made, imo. When there is no room for these difficult conversations to be had and the spectrum of suicidal thoughts and behaviours which exist to be acknowledged, how can the problem ever be mitigated to a substantial degree? Anyone who spends enough time on this site will see there is significant variety in the user base, and no two people's situations or how they present with their suicidality are exactly the same.

Of course, there will always be bad actors in any space dedicated towards vulnerability and sensitive topics, that is just par for the course unfortunately. But being a long-time user shouldn't be a de-facto assumption of guilt. I'd be more wary and untrustworthy of a new person, personally, compared to someone I have taken time to know and observe.

Of course, no one can fully understand unless they experience it for themselves, but I don't think many people realize how HARD suicide is, even if you've contemplated it every single day for months, or years. It requires overriding ever basal instinct we have to survive, often inflicting great amounts of physical pain, and confronting probably the greatest fear which exists for any living creature. Movies and TV glamorise the act and do not show the sheer difficulty of it all. There is a very specific numbness and mindset that is necessary to go through with it, and I have only experienced this shift in fear conditioning less than a handful of times in my life that would propel me to start an attempt.

A person like me is cowardly. I can wish for an escape from this world consistently, pray that I'll go out in my sleep, or a freak accident, but then struggle with this immensely. I have been suicidal for over half of my life, since 12/13 years old, and there is no greater pain than wanting to die almost every day of your adolescence and adult life. Yet, I have been told I'm attention seeking or faking solely for the fact that I have been suicidal for so damn long and not done it yet.

People don't realize someone can spend years silently suffering and planning, afraid, before they muster up the courage to face something as terrifying as death. The sheer ignorance of this is what leads people towards believing that those who are suffering a long time and talking about it online are malicious actors, and it blows my mind how anyone can think that the duration of one grappling with this makes it less real.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: Grey Worm, betternever2havbeen, Melly and 4 others
SufferingNSilence

SufferingNSilence

Member
Sep 14, 2024
25
The thought of ending your life is more about ending the pain within you than ending yourself, but when you feel trapped and without options, there's a kind of freedom experienced when suicide is imagined.
^^^^These words="💯"

I DEF have found this helpful every time I log into this site....in the interim, until that TRUE PEACE DOES EXIST.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RiverOfLife

Similar threads

T
Replies
14
Views
447
Suicide Discussion
ThatStateOfMind
T
Imhopeless
Replies
1
Views
188
Suicide Discussion
Mirrory Me
Mirrory Me
idelttoilfsadness21
Replies
17
Views
523
Suicide Discussion
idelttoilfsadness21
idelttoilfsadness21
T
Replies
16
Views
732
Suicide Discussion
ThatStateOfMind
T
T
Replies
8
Views
346
Suicide Discussion
ThatStateOfMind
T