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Nyxtus

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I've browsed the forums a bit, and I see SN as almost the predominant method for ending it. Is there a reason for this versus other things like Helium exit bags or hanging? I looked up some studies and it seems to not be a particularly fantastic way to go.
 
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sadworld

sadworld

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Well, for many users it is really easy to get and cheap and reliable. I think those are the most important factors that make it so popular.
 
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Life_and_Death

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4 reasons 1) its easyish to get/cheap 2) you can take meds with it to make it more peaceful 3) if you do fail the chances of brain damage are really slim 4) the chances of success are actually pretty good if done correctly
 
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Nyxtus

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I didn't know the chances of brain damage were extremely slim. That's been the dominant fear of mine that's kept me from doing it myself, so that's really interesting that it differs from most methods in that way.
 
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Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️ Sometimes I'm stressed
Jul 1, 2020
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I didn't know the chances of brain damage were extremely slim. That's been the dominant fear of mine that's kept me from doing it myself, so that's really interesting that it differs from most methods in that way.
totally, failing and being in the hospital and everything is bad enough. forget lasting damage.
 
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Weary Soul

Weary Soul

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Nov 13, 2019
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Same as Life_and_Death said:

4 reasons 1) its easyish to get/cheap 2) you can take meds with it to make it more peaceful 3) if you do fail the chances of brain damage are really slim 4) the chances of success are actually pretty good if done correctly

Also, for me, I have suffered through incredible physical pain many times in my life. So I am not worried about the potential pain with SN (although I really hate throwing up!).

One thing I know for sure, physical pain eventually ends one way or another.

Mental pain? Not so much in my case.

<3
 
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LonelyDude15

LonelyDude15

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For me it's just the fear of brain damage. If I don't go I certainly don't want to be a vegetable.
 
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I'm too dumb to do something like exit bag or co and not mess it up. Can't get N, H, or F. Drinking salty shot is easier and less scary than full hanging, and partial is easy to not do right or back out of. Jumping is scary af. SN is just all around easier, less scary, and if one changes their mind or messes it up it's not an issue.
 
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SmellyRat

SmellyRat

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Both hanging and exit bag done incorrectly results in brain damage.

With SN all you do is drink it with water.
 
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dropdeadfred

dropdeadfred

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Oct 19, 2020
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Legal as shit, son... effective if done correctly, with intention. Cheap to most & less likely to cause serious bodily injury if found in time/changed mind. Although experiences inevitably vary, seems like at minimum, an-okay method to go.
Edit: Although, it seems to be becoming less available, especially in the UK. Whoudda thought?! :: Insert eye roll ::
 
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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
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I'm not in love with this method, SN, but at least I can have it here in a little jar in case I decide I have to end it all. It's easy compared to the rest.
 
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Nyxtus

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What are your guys' opinions on gases/exit bags? It seems to be a much more peaceful way to go but I assume there's the fear of botching it, something going wrong and suffering brain damage?
 
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x~Sophia~x

x~Sophia~x

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What are your guys' opinions on gases/exit bags? It seems to be a much more peaceful way to go but I assume there's the fear of botching it, something going wrong and suffering brain damage?

Scary as hell putting that bag over your head! :ehh: And to be found like that - not for me.
I thought I'd go with jumping, but even that scares the crap outta me. :shy:
 
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muffin222

muffin222

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It's easy to get for many people, cheap, reliable, and relatively quick, which makes it an appealing method for a lot of users.
 
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StuFin

StuFin

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Oct 21, 2020
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I'm not a fan of it really, I'd rather go with nitrogen - too complicated and expensive, or CO - too unreliable. The last thing I want is to wake up again, or suffer some kind of horrendous illness or brain damage afterwards. So SN it is, quick drink, last cigarette, then hopefully out unconscious in 5 minutes and know nothing else.
 
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Railiah P

Railiah P

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I've browsed the forums a bit, and I see SN as almost the predominant method for ending it. Is there a reason for this versus other things like Helium exit bags or hanging? I looked up some studies and it seems to not be a particularly fantastic way to go.

I have been wondering about this too. I never thought of SN or any medication/ poison. But recently I have been exploring my options because I'm scared to try a gun. SN sounds good but idk where to get it.
 
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Apathy79

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N used to be the big one here. SN was the poor cousin. But since N has become impossible to get and the potential complications of SN have been well explained and nullified, it's become more popular. Now it's becoming harder to get so other methods will probably become more popular again.

Gunshot and hanging still make up the lion share of suicides worldwide. I guess they're less interesting to talk about and the side effects of failure can be horrendous. And the SI that comes up with drinking something seems less than pulling the trigger or kicking the chair because you still have time to pull out.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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4 reasons 1) its easyish to get/cheap 2) you can take meds with it to make it more peaceful 3) if you do fail the chances of brain damage are really slim 4) the chances of success are actually pretty good if done correctly
I agree with all those. Also it can also be very simple to execute if you do it like i would fast 8 hours, 30mg meto then 45 minutes later 25 g SN in 50 ml water ( have backup glass ready).
 
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StuFin

StuFin

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I agree with all those. Also it can also be very simple to execute if you do it like i would fast 8 hours, 30mg meto then 45 minutes later 25 g SN in 50 ml water ( have backup glass ready).
I think meto is a waste of time, there's no guarantee you won't vomit anyway, just drink more if you do.

1000mg Paracetemol or 600mg Ibuprofen (or a combination of the 2 - I find that works really well for normal pain) 1 hour before.
Ant acid (milk of magnesia or rennies or something 30 minutes to 20 minutes before).
25g of SN in 50 ml of water with at least another of the same backup, and maybe a 20g/50ml 3rd backup.

Job done.

My doctor amazingly prescribed me some proton pump inhibitors out the blue (see what I did there), but I won't be using those either.
 
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SmellyRat

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I think meto is a waste of time, there's no guarantee you won't vomit anyway, just drink more if you do.

Meto potentiates the SN since Meto can cause methemoglobinemia by itself.

N used to be the big one here. SN was the poor cousin. But since N has become impossible to get and the potential complications of SN have been well explained and nullified, it's become more popular. Now it's becoming harder to get so other methods will probably become more popular again.
SN has now become the new N.
 
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chrisbate7

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I think meto is a waste of time, there's no guarantee you won't vomit anyway, just drink more if you do.

1000mg Paracetemol or 600mg Ibuprofen (or a combination of the 2 - I find that works really well for normal pain) 1 hour before.
Ant acid (milk of magnesia or rennies or something 30 minutes to 20 minutes before).
25g of SN in 50 ml of water with at least another of the same backup, and maybe a 20g/50ml 3rd backup.

Job done.

My doctor amazingly prescribed me some proton pump inhibitors out the blue (see what I did there), but I won't be using those either.
Why not go for propanol? I have 80mg pills so I'm thinking I'll crush them up and put the 800mg into the SN drink. I want to black out as quick as possible. I'll also probably take 80mg dose like an hour before drinking SN
 
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SmellyRat

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Why not go for propanol? I have 80mg pills so I'm thinking I'll crush them up and put the 800mg into the SN drink. I want to black out as quick as possible. I'll also probably take 80mg dose like an hour before drinking SN
800mg is a huge amount to put in 50ml of water.
You would need a magnet stirrer:heart:
 
chrisbate7

chrisbate7

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800mg is a huge amount to put in 50ml of water.
You would need a magnet stirrer:heart:
Maybe drink it in another glass then? I know you don't want too much liquid though
 
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Maybe drink it in another glass then? I know you don't want too much liquid though
Then you end up with 100ml of water.

Since i really bad gag reflex, and salty liquid makes me throw up i'm melting dark chocolate with SN :ahhha:
 
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Then you end up with 100ml of water.

Since i really bad gag reflex, and salty liquid makes me throw up i'm melting dark chocolate with SN :ahhha:
Good idea. When are you fixing to CTB?
 
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chrisbate7

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No idea honestly, but i know i can't keep suffering like this for too long.
I'm in the same boat. Just can't bring myself to do it yet. But I feel like my resistance is fading
 
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StuFin

StuFin

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I want to go now but I can't. Son is here. I don't know how much longer I can hang on for.
 
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degeneratewaste

degeneratewaste

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I think that another reason not really mentioned too much here is that the SI is a lot easier to overcome, or at least it seems so in my opinion. much easier to ingest something akin to salty water plus some pills than try to gain the courage to jump off a building or shoot yourself in the head. it's more familiar and seems less scary in my mind.

I think meto is a waste of time, there's no guarantee you won't vomit anyway, just drink more if you do.

1000mg Paracetemol or 600mg Ibuprofen (or a combination of the 2 - I find that works really well for normal pain) 1 hour before.
Ant acid (milk of magnesia or rennies or something 30 minutes to 20 minutes before).
25g of SN in 50 ml of water with at least another of the same backup, and maybe a 20g/50ml 3rd backup.

Job done.

My doctor amazingly prescribed me some proton pump inhibitors out the blue (see what I did there), but I won't be using those either.
meto does not prevent you from throwing up in the SN method. the reason it's used is that it aids the absorption of the SN into the small intestine, therefore it gets into the bloodstream much quicker. we all know that even with meto, most people throw up. but it is recommended as it makes the death swift. plus all the other things you mentioned, makes for a pretty painless exit.
 
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