Venting Why is it so hard for people to accept that some people were meant to live a bad life?

[LastDayOnEarth]

Why do they always try to gaslight people and give them false hope when they know their situation is beyond repair?.

I wish people would just be honest and tell you to your face that you're messed up and nothing will get better for you.

I believe a lot of it might be the brainwashing of religion, the toxic positivity of it. That's why I backed away from Christianity even though I was raised religiously. Haven't set foot on a church in 10 years.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand, I see toxic positivity as so insensitive, it just invalidates the cruelty and suffering of this futile, torturous existence and it's so terrible and dreadful to me how there's all this suffering in existing, I see it as extreme cruelty how there is no acceptance towards the right to die even know there is no limit as to how much one can suffer in this existence that was imposed in the first place.

 

[Hvergelmir]

Why do they always try to gaslight people and give them false hope when they know their situation is beyond repair?.

Because people who actively try to improve their situation do much better than those who don't.
Submitting to poor circumstances tend to exacerbate suffering.

Probability is largely irrelevant. Even when odds are poor, unlikely things do happen occasionally. By giving up, one tend to miss such chances.

 

[EmptyBottle]

I don't think some people were meant to live a bad life, existence has its ways of going from reasonable to nightmarish and back.
I fear that accepting a nightmarish situation can make it trickier to escape from it, active effort, while sometimes nightmarish, has some chance of helping (and at times succeeds). When effort alone doesn't help, it could mean that something else should be tried.

Finding what to try can itself be a tricky mess, which can lead some to stop trying before all logical possibilities (including possibilities not known to the user) have been tested.

Note that even the worst situations are finite, even if existence feels like a second-by-second nightmare, there will be a last second of that nightmare (whether it ends in improved conditions or the end of existence)

 

[zixd]

i'd like someone to tell me in face how much im beyond repair , someone honest , to throw hate on me

 

[frayed]

I wish people would just be honest and tell you to your face that you're messed up and nothing will get better for you.

first part is easy, but what does it accomplish? your pain is your truth. only you can live it.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

It's what everyone is conditioned to do, because the alternative is seen as cruel- being honest isn't always the kindest way to speak to someone. Even if it was truthful, and I appreciated the honesty, being told by someone that I was fucked before didn't feel great emotionally.

Acknowledging that there are currently problems without clear cut solutions also makes a lot of people deeply uncomfortable, because the underpinning of most philosophies people subscribe to boil down to things like, "We are in control of our own destinies." Nature is chaotic and random, not neat and orderly, but humans like to think we are immune to the rules of entropy and disorder. It's a hard pill to swallow that we can't currently cure or appropriately manage every single malfunction that's going to arise with the body/mind. We can't control everything, but we want to be able to.

I think informing someone they have an incurable disease is within the window of tolerance allowed for certain professions, but no one will ever acknowledge something is incurable if it's been deemed mental. It's just taboo. A lot of people still don't even fully believe that mental suffering is real and think it's a conscious choice, to acknowledge that someone can try their best to overcome a problem and STILL be suffering is a total 180 to their worldview.

 

[bankai]

I stopped going to church a long time ago because I couldn't be bothered to get up on Sundays

But seriously, yes. I get what you're saying, but people just cannot say the truth.'Cause I can understand their point of view too.I couldn't say it to someone either, can I? I can't tell them, hey, you know, it's time to give up. It's better to just die. It's such a terrible thing to say.


That being said, the humane thing for countries to do would be to facilitate end of life options. This is the one thing I cannot forgive society for. Play the nice guy all you want. But let the people who choose for themselves take the bus when they feel it's time. Let them do it peacefully.