The stomach does absorb. It has passive absorption. And it absorbs liquids.
But, even with normal gi emptying it will happen relatively quickly with a liquid in an empty stomach. If we ingest 25 gram and it's what 1-2 gram for lethality, I would say you are pretty much guaranteed the lethal dose either way.
I can't actually find anything online that says the stomach absorbs liquid. And the rate of absorption of liquids seems to be tied to gastric emptying, according to what I can find. If I'm just not looking at the right stuff, then by all means correct me and maybe send a link.
But I did find that the stomach can absorb nitrites, although only a small portion (<5%). In theory, this could be enough at 1.25g, although there are other factors that have to be considered such as nitric oxide production that may impact the amount absorbed.
So, in theory, it should suffice without an ae. Of course I agree with all you've written here that following protocol is probably ideal.
Yes, in theory, you don't need an AE, it's simply nice to have and it possibly increases the chance of success given its function in the protocol.
But, it is a poison and poisons kill relatively efficiently. On an empty stomach, even quicker and higher absorption. With a liquid on an empty stomach with normal gi emptying it shouldn't stay in your stomach too long. Absorption actually begins in the mouth, which is also where digestion begins. So even taking into mouth you begin to absorb.
I thought
digestion begins in the mouth, not absorption? Some things, like in the stomach, can be absorbed in the mouth like alcohol (only a small amount though). I don't imagine SN is going to absorb like that. But I am only guessing here.
The vomiting, even if it is in your intestines, it will come out as the body can make you expel from intestines. That's where you see people vomiting feces from intestinal blockages so I honestly wouldn't count on that either way. With a liquid it's going to absorb pretty quickly to get to lethal dose and your body is going to make you vomit. I haven't seen where the ae has made a difference in that. It only may make a difference in stomach emptying is my guess. People just seem to do a lot of vomiting with this stuff.
This is also true. But is it always the case that one vomits their small intestine contents? That is one example of it happening, and under a specific circumstance. But yes, people do vomit even with the AE, since the body
really doesn't like the SN.
And keep in mind this is all only in theory. Not attempting to change any protocols or anything. But, as I am seriously grappling with whether I can even take an ae, these are things I've considered.
I mean yeah, at the end of the day we aren't medical experts, nor do we have hard studies that go over the process of SN ingestion from start to finish, so we can only make do with the info we have and draw conclusions.
As always I appreciate your responses. You are very thorough and knowledgeable. I'm going to look into what you linked. Just mentioning again not going against protocol just my own personal considerations.
Thank you! I always try to provide answers to questions if I'm confident that my knowledge is accurate. But I am no expert and I don't claim to be.
And I get that you're just trying to work out whether an AE is truly necessary, and I think it's quite prudent to dot your i's and cross your t's. So it's all good. I don't think you're intentionally trying to go against protocol, some people just can't get an AE is all.
Would love to just follow protocol because honestly this would feel like a breeze for me at that point. It's stressful having to consider not following it. I want to be able to just do the protocol. I would feel at much greater ease and peace.
This is exactly why I am using Meto. It may or may not end up being necessary, but the function of the medication in the protocol provides nice peace of mind. Having the SN get to work faster does sound good on paper.
And regarding not being able to follow protocol, if it's any consolation, there are successes with it. Hell, I imagine those that were underage that got a hold of SN didn't use Meto or any other supplementary drug. But that is pure speculation on my part.