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Darkover

Darkover

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Intelligently, humans are stuck in a shithole situation because:

We start from zero born with no real knowledge, just basic instincts like crying, sucking, grabbing.
Nothing resembling wisdom, foresight, or reason. Everything that makes us "smart" has to be painfully taught or discovered from scratch.

It takes years just to become functional. Decades to become "competent." And even then, most people only ever master tiny slices of knowledge.

Technological disparity few people can understand the deep inner workings of computers — these miracle machines — while many people can barely use them, let alone understand them. That huge gap in understanding exists everywhere and holds humanity back.

Humans aren't born smart. They're born stupid and fragile, and only a tiny sliver claw their way to real intelligence.

Most people remain ignorant — Even in an age of infinite access to information, the majority barely scratch the surface. They stay locked in primitive cycles — chasing basic pleasure, following groupthink like religion, ignoring complex problems.

We don't understand ourselves — We don't know how consciousness works. We don't know why we dream. We don't even fully understand how memories are stored or why emotions can hijack rational thought.



Materially, humans are stuck in a shithole situation because:

Extreme dependency from birth — You're born helpless. You need parents or caretakers just to survive, for years. You can't hunt, build a house, grow food — you're owned by the system before you even know what a system is.

Most people grow up in small houses or apartments. Nowhere near the freedom humans were probably meant to have. Can't even play loud music, can't be yourself, constantly stepping on someone else's boundaries. Like rats in cages.

Wealth is rare — Despite what "motivational" media tells you, most people are not born into money. They're born into a cycle of survival, not abundance.

Work to live, not live to work — The majority have to grind meaningless jobs, just to get basic stuff: food, shelter, water, electricity. The job isn't about passion, or fulfillment — it's about not dying.

Freedom is an illusion — People talk about "freedom" — but realistically, unless you're rich or have extreme luck, your freedom is chained to your paycheck, your boss, your rent, your food bills.

You grow up depending on your parents... then become an adult depending on a boss or the market... then eventually you have kids who depend on you... and the whole damn hamster wheel spins again.
 
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Hollowman

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No kid depends on me. Fuck the hamster wheel.
 
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Nobodi

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Sep 24, 2024
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Intelligently, humans are stuck in a shithole situation because:

We start from zero born with no real knowledge, just basic instincts like crying, sucking, grabbing.
Nothing resembling wisdom, foresight, or reason. Everything that makes us "smart" has to be painfully taught or discovered from scratch.

It takes years just to become functional. Decades to become "competent." And even then, most people only ever master tiny slices of knowledge.

Technological disparity few people can understand the deep inner workings of computers — these miracle machines — while many people can barely use them, let alone understand them. That huge gap in understanding exists everywhere and holds humanity back.

Humans aren't born smart. They're born stupid and fragile, and only a tiny sliver claw their way to real intelligence.

Most people remain ignorant — Even in an age of infinite access to information, the majority barely scratch the surface. They stay locked in primitive cycles — chasing basic pleasure, following groupthink like religion, ignoring complex problems.

We don't understand ourselves — We don't know how consciousness works. We don't know why we dream. We don't even fully understand how memories are stored or why emotions can hijack rational thought.



Materially, humans are stuck in a shithole situation because:

Extreme dependency from birth — You're born helpless. You need parents or caretakers just to survive, for years. You can't hunt, build a house, grow food — you're owned by the system before you even know what a system is.

Most people grow up in small houses or apartments. Nowhere near the freedom humans were probably meant to have. Can't even play loud music, can't be yourself, constantly stepping on someone else's boundaries. Like rats in cages.

Wealth is rare — Despite what "motivational" media tells you, most people are not born into money. They're born into a cycle of survival, not abundance.

Work to live, not live to work — The majority have to grind meaningless jobs, just to get basic stuff: food, shelter, water, electricity. The job isn't about passion, or fulfillment — it's about not dying.

Freedom is an illusion — People talk about "freedom" — but realistically, unless you're rich or have extreme luck, your freedom is chained to your paycheck, your boss, your rent, your food bills.

You grow up depending on your parents... then become an adult depending on a boss or the market... then eventually you have kids who depend on you... and the whole damn hamster wheel spins again.
😔 painful true. Well said.
 
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Feb 25, 2025
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Speaking of loud music, right now the (disgusting) neighbors have their music pretty loud. It's already nighttime, and they've been like that for four or five hours. They're drunk, yelling, I can't even tell they're singing. It's disgusting.

Regarding what you say, I think the problem is evolution and adaptation. Human beings no longer evolve, or you could say they've reached their limit, their "peak." Adaptation consists of what you've described: working for what's necessary, and even if times, ways, and eras change, they will continue doing the same thing, like a repetitive cycle.

I dreamed, or at least that's what I consider, of an evolved human being, an advanced society. Where hunting is no longer necessary from the age of 4 or 5, as in some tribes, but rather humans can become more adaptable to a society that can generate their own food without needing to kill other beings (the same damned cycle that makes humans look like animals). In this way, we could reach a point where food itself would no longer be necessary, nor things that ultimately only serve to "kill hunger" and not to feed us.

All of this sounds like a mere utopia, I know, but my central thesis is that humans are evolved beings in the full sense of the word. We talk about Australopithecus or other hominid genera as if they were something belonging to humans' "absurd past," when in reality they weren't that different from us in essential ways (eating, reproducing, defecating). However, my idea is that perhaps we could have made the "great leap" at some point, but no, all of humanity decided to stay put. Just change a few things and let us believe we're intelligent for writing comments on Reddit, Facebook, or any other stupid social network.

P.S. I forgot that for me, "CTB" is a somewhat odd, but still exemplary form of freedom, free will, in relation to the evolved human. We can even speak of true freedom, something that escapes nature and logic. Cut your flesh with something sharp, and immediately your cells, your body, will regenerate (if you're healthy). However, it would be a "great anomaly" if these cells didn't regenerate solely through thought, or in fact without it, which could be "fatal" at some point.
 
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OptingOutSmiling

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Nov 25, 2024
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Location of the shithole with the hamster wheel.
I love how your mind works. I find it hard to comprehend the hugeness, the smallness and the nothingness of all of this at the same time.
 
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