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Lazy

Lazy

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Feb 25, 2025
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After all this Online Safety Act stuff and a recent post here about a BBC documentary covering SaSu I desided to share my thoughts, just because there is really noone, beside myself, with whom I could talk about this so sorry if this is boring or smth.
I belive that most people who demonize this forum do so, not due to a lack of compassion but to maintain there worldview and sanity. Should they accept SaSu's existence as something that helps people, they would admit, that lots of people are in situations where recovery is near impossible and death really is the preferable option. This heavily conflicts with the narrative of hope and happy endings which most were led to belive in/is a part of "human nature". Therefore this forum is (sub-)conciously branded as different and therefore wrong by the average person.
I don't know how it is for others but for me personally, this forum is the only place I can speak freely and share my feelings, so if I'd be to explain my situation to anyone even somewhat empathic I doubt they would still want this forum to be taken down.
I guess I'm also kind of making this post because I see lot's of hate against "normies" on this site and, in my opinion, we really can't blame them. Please note that I am not a Pro-Lifer, nor do I blame anyone here. In the end it is just a lack of knowledge and comunication, if suicide would not be a tabu topic, SaSu would probably not exist.
All that aside, fuck the BBC and fuck the government for scaring the public even more about suicide, meanwhile not acknowledging suicide as a symptom rather that a cause.

P.S. by the "heathy people" in the title I meant people who do not want to ctb, just wantet the title to be concise and "normies" sounds to passive agressive.
 
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AreWeWinning

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Nov 1, 2021
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The living will never accept the fact that some people just want to die. The idea that suicides must be stopped and prevented is impossible to challenge. Whenever I think about this problem, I get frustrated and just stop, because it really feels like an unsolvable problem.

Death cannot be accepted. Not even on this forum, not anywhere. Preservation of life is always preferred. If this weren't the case, the human race would have gone extinct by now. It's in our DNA. These arguments can never be won.

I will not watch that documentary, because I know I'd just get angry. There are so many double standards. The arguments between the two sides — pro and against life — are never fair. The living will try to convince everyone to continue living. Why? At the end of the day, because that's what they want, and that is the generally accepted thing to do. But why? Just because. There is no reason.

Encouraging someone to live is accepted. Encouraging someone to die is not. Help is only allowed if it helps the person to live. If it helps with something else, that's not called help but a sin. Support by definition means giving a person encouragement because you want them to succeed. But if it's succeeding in death, then support is not allowed anymore. It's only allowed when it aligns with what the other party wants. How is that fair?

There are always two sides to the coin. When someone wants to die, the standard response is always "I'm sorry you feel that way.", or "Have you considered getting help?". Why do people feel sorry, and why do they want to help them live? Why do we never say "I'm sorry you want to live." or "Have you considered getting help and dying?" Why? Because life wants to continue. It just does. For no logical reason.

The only people who accept death are the ones who truly want to die. Life will always want to continue, and the self-preservation instinct will always be there — it's against the interest of the living to let people die.
 
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