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Felix007

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Sep 12, 2022
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why is fasting necessary before taking SN? is it also necessary before taking oral pills?
 
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It is supposed to help things go more smoothly, with less chance of vomiting. If you vomit the thing you ingested so you'd die, you just narrowed the chances it will succeed, dramatically. Might it work if you don't fast? Sure. Might it still work if you vomit? Possibly. Others have also had a second glass ready just in case they do vomit the first dose. It's not like the protocols were written by people who don't know jack and are just messing with our heads. Information on here about attempts that succeeded, the ones that failed, came from actual suicidal people, some with advanced degrees including medical and science degrees. Yes, the protocols can get updated and change as people learn more, but the accepted protocols you see on this site are trying to make the most perfect environment for your chosen plan to work. Could it still work otherwise? Sure. Could you possibly just end up disabled, or vegetative if something doesn't go to plan and you've not intentionally set yourself up for success? Sure. Would I want to take that chance? No.
 
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Felix007

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makes sense, so if the stomach is empty the body can absorb the substance faster than if compared to if stomach is filled with food?
 
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That's my understanding. Also, as someone who suffers a lot of nausea from a medical condition, I find that if there's a lot of food in my stomach I'm much more prone to actual vomiting if I get really nauseated. Now for me, it's also the same if I'm super hungry. Being hungry can trigger nausea for me. So if I ever were to do this method, I might eat a few crackers at some time before. But that is me taking a calculated risk because I know my propensity for vomiting, and I'd want to avoid it. I am risking that the few crackers will be insignificant in the final equation, but it is much less risky than taking my chances that I won't vomit or start dry heaving because my stomach is empty. So I feel it's still OK, if you fully understand the method, to make decisions that reflect your own history and medical situation, but you must be clear that you know you are deviating slightly and accept some small risk of failure. In my case, knowing this, I will prepare 2 portions if I use this method in the future.
 
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It is supposed to help things go more smoothly, with less chance of vomiting. If you vomit the thing you ingested so you'd die, you just narrowed the chances it will succeed, dramatically. Might it work if you don't fast? Sure. Might it still work if you vomit? Possibly. Others have also had a second glass ready just in case they do vomit the first dose. It's not like the protocols were written by people who don't know jack and are just messing with our heads. Information on here about attempts that succeeded, the ones that failed, came from actual suicidal people, some with advanced degrees including medical and science degrees. Yes, the protocols can get updated and change as people learn more, but the accepted protocols you see on this site are trying to make the most perfect environment for your chosen plan to work. Could it still work otherwise? Sure. Could you possibly just end up disabled, or vegetative if something doesn't go to plan and you've not intentionally set yourself up for success? Sure. Would I want to take that chance? No.
No. You will not end up disabled or vegetative from failing Sodium Nitrite. Even if I some small chance you did end up in that type of situation they would pull the plug on you anyway.
 
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I agree with the previous statements about increasing digestion. Your body does digest and process food a bit more quickly if you haven't eaten for a while.

Additionally, I think it also helps make sure nothing else will interact with the SN in your stomach to dilute it. For instance, Vitamin C messes with SN and causes it to be significantly less effective, which is why they specifically say to mix the SN with water, and not juice or anything else.

Also kinda gross, but you are pretty likely to vomit if you take SN, and it's probably a bit easier on you if you are vomiting on an empty stomach, rather than vomiting up a meal you ate recently.
 
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No. You will not end up disabled or vegetative from failing Sodium Nitrite. Even if I some small chance you did end up in that type of situation they would pull the plug on you anyway.

I understand that this is very unlikely to happen with this method. That said, I also know of people who have tried some sort of method and ended up in a weird position for a long period of time while they were passed out, with lack of blood and oxygen to one extremity or another and it had to be amputated or was no longer able to be used. I also don't trust hospitals that much, so I figure if I don't succeed, and instead there is some medical intervention, there is the potential there for something bad to happen in the hospital (trust me on this one, a hospital acquired infection nearly killed me a while back). Also, it is possible to choke on your vomit and depending on when found you could have a loss of oxygen in your bloodstream, which could impair brain function. I am not trying to be fear-mongering. These possibilities are very slight, I would think, but that is why I'd want to do as much as possible to do it right the first time. I'm just trying to explain what goes into my decision making as far as steps, and why I might decide to deviate, but also that I need to be mindful and calculate risk tolerance for myself.
 
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